So, why do YOU use guthans?

[Sirgatory]

This is a discussion for everyone out there who swears by their guthans armor :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So recently, I was contemplating whether or not to put the 9M in to buy guthans armor for training. I considered the alternatives:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Using food

 

 

 

-Using food

 

 

 

-Oh, and using food.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I decided to venture off to world 2 to purchase a set, when my friend pmed me, "Hey wanna come train with me at the mage training arena?"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It then popped into my head - Bones to peaches! I looked up all of the information about it, and when I did all the math, these were my results:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 nature runes per cast.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 cast = all bones in inventory transformed to peaches

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Peaches heal 8.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1,000 nature runes = 500 casts. 500 casts can equal up to 500 loads of food!! That is 500 trips to the bank that you DON'T HAVE TO DO.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I then calculated the price it would cost me to get the spell. It came out to around 900k coins.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What was that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

900k coins. 10 times LESS then guthan's armor. Yes, the spell does cost nature runes. But you would need to use 30,000 nature runes (15,000 casts) to even equal up to the price of guthans. So i've now gotten the bones to peaches spell, and I earned 230k mage experience in the process :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only disadvantages are:

 

 

 

-No demon training

 

 

 

-Limited slayer tower training.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The advantages:

 

 

 

-Costs less than guthans

 

 

 

-More effective than guthans

 

 

 

-Can train in almost all spots

 

 

 

-Can train on Dust devils

 

 

 

-Only takes up 3 inventory spaces (as does guthans if you have another set of armor on you as well)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So that's my opinion on this amazing spell. What about yours?

[Ianw77]

Hmm, I never really thought of that. But bones to peaches can only be used on regular bones I think? :-k Yeah and like you said some monsters dont drop bones, like abby demons. In turn making guthans more efficient.

[LordSoultar]

B2P can not be used on big and ragon bones, only normal bones. But still, I really don't think guthans is worth the cash for everyday training. I find it to be much less hassle to just bank every few hours for more food than it is to switch armor every 15 minutes or so.

[Sirgatory]

Okay i've editted my post about the big and dragon bones.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But then - if guthans is only needed for demons, why waste it on the tasks with bones, such as dagganoths and skeletons + various others?

[ssenmodnar]

well you can also argue that you actually have to stop and eat for bones to peaches, for guthans you can just keep on whacking away

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you also need inventory space for bone to peaches which doesnt work on some monsters

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that + sure... 15k casts is roughly equal to the cost of guthans but cmon... when you buy guthans... its an investment, you can always... oh... say... sell it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lastly but not least,a lot of ppl dislike doing mage training arena

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

probably more reasons as well

[Sirgatory]

 

 

 

you also need inventory space for bone to peaches which doesnt work on some monsters

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that + sure... 15k casts is roughly equal to the cost of guthans but cmon... when you buy guthans... its an investment, you can always... oh... say... sell it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People also spend 900k on their first crystal bow, and they cannot sell that once it is used ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

+ like i said above - Bones to peaches replaces guthans in the inventory if you have another set of armor on you as well.

[LordSoultar]

you also need inventory space for bone to peaches which doesnt work on some monsters

 

 

 

Only one space if you use bones to peaches tablets, which is the same amount of space that you'd need to carry your warspear anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that + sure... 15k casts is roughly equal to the cost of guthans but cmon... when you buy guthans... its an investment, you can always... oh... say... sell it?

 

 

 

You can always sell it, but remember that the prices drop. In the long term you'd lose alot more with guthan's price drops and repair costs than you would with B2P rune costs or food costs.

[Dalcyte]

when you don't wanna bring food, its just really helpful, think of dks...you're not gonna bring food or sara brews, but that lasts a certain extent, and you can't really get much else for bones...so what's left? guthans. Guthans is just great so you can stay longer...like barrows, ur only gonna bring enough bones to peaches for al ittle bit, don't wanna risk bring all those nats and use up inventory, so thus people use guthans to heal.

[Who]

You can't compare Guthans and Bones to Peaches. Peaches are great, but Guthans is more versitile. Mage Training Arena master out. :

[jessy87]

bloodveld made a thread like this a long time ago... so i guess this is old.

[TheZephyrus]

I only have b2p (got it 5 mins ago actually), and probably can't afford Guthan's any time soon. I can however say from personal experience that b2p can't keep up with the rate many things will sometimes hit me. Guthan heals you usually 20+ per monster (from jealously watching every guy next to me with his/her shiny Guthan set), better with more str. Bones to peaches just 8. A lot of higher level things hit you for way more than that.

[Peronix]

I use it for longer stays at monsters without having to bank. I don't mind having to use food, but I'd rather stay at the training spot and not have to leave. Also, with all your 'food' in four slots you have more room for drops without having to waste food by eating it to make room.

[mikehild]

I don't own guthans because I barely use melee at all. The only reason I ever bought and used it was for the fight caves.

[Giordano]

I use Guthans because...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wait, I dont use Guthans! :shock:

[icecube]

Because I can \ .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Burning money is fun!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Plus I'm too lazy to finish getting B2P (still need my Telekinetic Pizazz points).

[Owned_Nex]

Guthans...I have tried getting that spell. I finally got it, and so far yet, I have never used it yet. I thought about the same thing, but seriously? Who caries around hundreds or nats,waters,and earths?

[malo2]

B2P can not be used on big and ragon bones, only normal bones. But still, I really don't think guthans is worth the cash for everyday training. I find it to be much less hassle to just bank every few hours for more food than it is to switch armor every 15 minutes or so.

Id agree with that, thats why I sold my gunthans back wehn it was 11m, it was getting too costly to repair. Also I'm getting my fishing to 99 right now so I have plenty of food.

[hellbellz]

No food, 'nuff said.

[Sinshlad]

I almost never use guthans anymore, only on slayer tasks where the monsters hit hard and thus require a few bank trips to finish a large task (i.e. hell hounds in taverly dungeon). However, it usually isnt worth the loss in damage you get from swapping off your black mask, whip and defender. Banking will almost always take less time to do then the time you lose by swapping back and forth between guthans.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bones to peaches probably loses you less time but it still isn't worth it in most situations like those where you get no bone drops or monsters that hit you for more than 8 hitpoints on average each. They are a good substitute for guthans on tasks like dust devils, which are in the middle of nowhere and dont require too much food.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Outside of slayer you obviously lose less using guthans due to not being able to use a black mask. The same as above still stands though, you still have to swap off your whip and defender to heal and this can be a little irritating at times. Though you could always try the risky afk training at bandits in the desert with your spear constantly equiped, but I've heard of a few stories where this has resulted in banning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I typically use guthans for the sake of being to lazy to bank on a long slayer task even though its faster to use food, especially if the monsters are in a obnoxious location like brimhaven dungeon. Guthans is useful in this situation just to save a bit of effort for a slight reduction in speed. Similar to this, long training trips that don't involve pest control have a big use for lazy use of guthans aswell, particularily at the dagganoths under the lighthouse. Though daggs drop plenty of bones and bones to peaches is plenty to heal in this situation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In all I have to say the bones to peaches is useful mainly for situations where you get bones and the monsters aren't too tough. Guthans is better is the monsters are strong enough to do more than 8 damage to you on average. Bones to peaches is probably more useful in slayer for making a task as fast as possible as opposed to you usually losing more time by using guthans then you would by banking instead. Finally, guthans is better in a situation where you dont want to put too much effort into healing i.e. afk training or when a slayer task is too out of the way and dosent drop bones or is too tough for bones to peaches to handle.

[halo2_rocks7]

B2P is good for let's say dust devils, but once your inventory is nearly full, and you want to use B2P, it becomes pretty much useless. Guthans, however, heals you even when inventory is full. Also, I'd rather do damage to my opponent and heal, than waste time eating.

[Aresgodowar]

Guthans...I have tried getting that spell. I finally got it, and so far yet, I have never used it yet. I thought about the same thing, but seriously? Who caries around hundreds or nats,waters,and earths?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

people who slay...just think of the hundreds of runes you get on any task.....i love jellies always make a trip to f2p to sell a k or 2 chaos . and love pyrefiends for the nats trolls for earth, blue drags for water, metal drags for bloods, harpies for fire. and so on and so on.

[Abyssalwhip]

What i like to do is buy it before i camp at dust devils and then sell it when im done (costs like 40k max when im done anyway) but i also use B2P method

[Stilev]

guthans is the only armor set i own, and if i really need money, i can just sell it and break even

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also i got 10k trout, 7k salmon, 15k lobbies, and 15k monkfish, plus full guthans, its not like i really need to worry about food

[DRUMINATOR17]

To be perfectly honest with you in 80 to 85% of the situations in runescape guthans is better / has the advangtage of bones to peaches

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have (just bought guthans back earlier today :mrgreen: ) both guthans and bones to peaches

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only true worth while part of using bones to peaches would be for long training trips on dust devils...a facemask must be used

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Both b2p and guthans are great in helping out by making you bank much less then without either of them however the uses for b2p are far more limited then guthans is

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

most people usually get guthans for helping out with slayer (or dagganoth kings) and b2p for generally the same reason

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HOWEVER...after a while and with better lvls b2p for a properly equipped slayer loses its value EXCEPT for on hellhounds and (which guthans can also be used) dust devils

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

all that ^ mumbo jumbo said Guthans > Help to a slayer then b2p

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P.S: someone else also said it and i much agree id rather steal an enemys hp and use it for myself then have to stop and eat small amounts at a time....(guthans hits / heals also can be highest 1 action heals in the game...other then lunar spell heal other)

[Aresgodowar]

if your needing hp and your killing monsters just safe spot and blood blitz

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

or switch to range( at drags,hell hounds, and many others)