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I am doing what you are atm, skilling sucks major balls. Need to open dem effigies

Oi, can someone give me a TLDR on the rules of NFL. I want to watch this tomorrow, but i've got no f-n idea on the rules or concepts of gameplay. (I am not american btw lol)

SHE GOT COLD FEET It's ok, who needs women when you have Runescape and mfc FML

Just get whatever looks k3wl

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Townsville is where I lived and grew up for 7 years. (Back in the UK now for a while) http://www.ustream.tv/channel/test222223435432e Stream of storm chasers car Live Video Stream from apartment in Townsville CBD Trying to keep regular contact with my friends there, but power will probably go soon, about an hour until the eye hits, It's also hitting at high tide, so the swells are HUGE. 10m + low areas will be instantly flooded from storm surges and this is the biggest danger. The 1st link will be pretty intense EDIT: Apparantly it's moving slower now, so it won't reach land at high tide, which is a lot better for the storm surges, but means the winds will be over the towns for longer.

Yeah but do you slay 15 hours a day?

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Inc 1 hour to the biggest multi-log fest of all time.

Wonder how much prayer xp those ashes will give, & if bonecrusher (or a new item) will work with them.

OMFG free trade today, fell asleep at 6pm last night and woke up at 7am now, [bleep] yeah. Finished season 1 of 24 lol. Been playing Mario to try get that finished, up to like 107/120 stars now, some of the last ones are just [developmentally delayed]ed.

Why can't he have a break or some variety in what he is doing. He also might be doing it every 4 hours due to GE buy limits.

Luckily staking doesn't require an IQ over 50

How is the video streamrate on that? I do the same thing but with teamviewer (which is free), however despite being on LAN it still takes time to buffer or load as the character runs etc, i also have to drag the cursor around rather than it being touch to click only.

Do you even read the question for all of this "help & advice"?

Grats on GLOBAL moderator n00b I NEED TO FINISH SKILLING SO I CAN RETURN TO EFFIGYSCAPE FMLLL

Quick Update: Started watching 24, i've got 8 seasons to watch, I never watched them when they were out for whatever reason, so i've got 192 hours of entertainment for skilling... Got 80 Construction for Herblore Habitat, world's most tedious skill fml. Started with mahog tables, then switched to dungeon doors. For thieving I tried punching monkey guards and it's just too much effort for not overly great xp at lvl 75. Switched back to pyramid plunder & am able to do this semi-effectively while watching stuff, so I guess i'll be staying here until 88 or so. For Hunter, I've gotten the mask and 2 tops, fml hopefully i'll get the bottoms this reset so I can power through that. Have been doing a bit of farming, farming lantadymes with juju's, decent xp and decent profit with no real risk of loss, so I guess that was a safe compromise. I pretty much plan for my only farming XP to come from herbs from now on. There is no real rush for levels. So to summarize, I guess i'll be working on Thieving and Hunter this week, while watching a [cabbage]load of 24. Perhaps then I'll take a break and go back to killing some stuff which is more interesting.

Am on phone so forgive me for no quotes and dodgy typin Inc. Amethyst. Those numbers you posted from those tasks don't look out of the ordinary to me. As for basilisks kuradel doesn't assign those so they do fall out of focus for most people. Jet & bed I'm still unsure about blue drags to ve honest. I only got 2 tasks of them. And I forgot I had to bank even with just doing bones. Something I don't like doing. However due to that cluster o specified it does give some flexibility to people in making their lit. Perhaps in fuure if I have the points I won't do any. As for tzhaar I have limited experience with them and did not know the kill rate was so high. Any more info like that can be really helpful. As you can understand trying to find info and collect data for at least half of kuradelss assigns takes time and i''m only doin it by myself. So thanks for the tzhaar info. I also need to check out rates at the new kalphite spot. Again this could shuffle the list around. Anyway I guess this discussion is quite relevant to the topic in hand due to the significance of effigies in 200m skills. Any random out of place words.. thAnk apples auto correcter lol

Aberrant Spectres would probably profit with a cannon, or come close, depending on how herb prices are. They also wouldn't be too awful for effigies, although I'm yet to test it.

They also don't drop normal charms, which for the top players, would matter. However if charms didn't matter. let' say you kill the Ket's & Xil's 50/50. 149 combat vs 133 giving an average of 141. This would give roughly a 1/650 or so rate. Kill rate would be what, 200 per/hr? It's certainly better than the Nech/Garg/Blues/Waterfiends time/effigy, however still not going to be fast enough to make the shortlist for top players, especially with the lack of charms. If you don't value charms, i'd say it's not a bad option, (depending on what kill rate you can achieve & what the loot is like) For me personally there are a couple of tasks I wouldn't skip in future, however for testing, I had to. Blue Dragons - 1.5m gp/hr on Bones - Effigy rate in the similar area to Nech's/Gargs/Watefiends - close to 300 kills an hour (so in that little category it would be, (Blues > Gargs > Nechs > Waterfiends which assumes you are maxed) I would do Gargoyles over Nechs due to 1) the travel time 2) the effort involved (manually scrolling titan & gathering non-aggressive mobs, as opposed to, stand there and go make a coffee) Waterfiends are slow, however may be worth it once a week with familiarisation. So it's that little area of around 1/1k drop that provides the most alternative options depending on your priorities. This list doesn't assume you are spending your effigies on slayer & therefore trying to maximize slayer xp/hr alone. It may have to be tweaked for that, it's mainly the most versatile for covering all 4 categories. Slayer xp/hr, charms, effigies, profit.

It is roughly 1/100k if you do the following list, possibly less if you cut out abyssal demons, however you will make a loss gp wise. [hide] Blocked Jungle Strykewyrms Desert Strykewyrms Fire Giants Warped Tortoise Gargoyles Aquanites (Not unlocked) (Gargoyles are blocked due to their high frequency assigned, however due to the ease of the task, Waterfiends may be a more viable option to block - same goes for Fire Giants and Warped Torts, they could be replaced with a more frequent task.) Cancel Spiritual Mages Greater Demons Dust Devils Skeletal Wyverns TzHaar (Non fight cave) Terror Dogs Suqah Living Rock Creatures Waterfiends Nechryael Blue Dragons Kalphite (After Do No Evil - need to test kill rate here) These are from top to bottom - the priority order in which to cancel. (Assumes normal magicks) Allow: In order from fastest to slowest effigies Black Dragons Bloodvelds Black Demons Steel Dragons Hellhounds Mithril Dragons Ice Strykewyrm Aberrant Spectres Dark Beasts Dagannoths Iron Dragons Abyssal Demons* (Could be substituted for Kalphite with the new spot (haven't tested there yet) With 1 additional task I was able to gain more points than I spent, so with this list it "should" break even. [/hide]

Why do people find roulette fun?

Since this question comes up daily, i'll take the time to write a full comparison - then feel free to copy paste it each time. I haven't done "efficiency" figures in great depth, Calculations etc [hide] Rock Lobs Crimson Charm: 56% 1/1 [swamp Titan (373.6)] Gold Charm: 28% 2/1 [barker Toad (87)] Green Charm: 13% 4/1 [Fruit Bat (121.2)] Blue Charm: 2% 25/1[Geyser Titan (783.2) ~ Crimson XP Ratio Gold: 1/4.2 Green:1/3 Blue: 1/0.5 Crimson: 1/1 Assuming the charms are spent on those - this can obviously be modified, but this is usually the crux area of summoning (85-95) 270 per 1000 Burst, 500 Casts/hr Bursting Crimson = 135 Gold = 65 Green = 30 Blue = 5 Equivalent Crimsons Gold: 15 Green: 10 Blue: 10 Crimson: 135 170 Crimsons per hour equivalent Actual Cost/hr w/ Robes = 250k Barraging 370 per 1000 Barrage, 500 Casts/hr Crimson = 185 Gold = 90 Green = 45 Blue = 10 Gold: 20 Green: 15 Blue: 20 Crimson: 185 240 Crimsons per hour equivalent Actual Cost/hr w/ Robes = 500k Waterfiends AC Crimson = 80% Gold = 10% Green = 5% Blue = 4% Expected Kills: 150 per hr in AC & Effigy @ ~1/1000 (Assume effigy is used on summoning @ lvl 92+) Crimson = 120 Gold = 15 Green = 7 Blue = 5 Lamp(per/hr) = 5800 Equivalent Crimsons: Crimson = 120 Gold = 3 Green = 2 Blue = 10 Effigy = 15 150 crimsons per hour equivalent. Cost = Even or 250k Profit Waterfiends CT Expected Kills: 200 per hr in CT & Effigy @ ~1/1000 (Assume effigy is used on summoning @ lvl 92+) Crimson = 160 Gold = 20 Green = 10 Blue = 8 Lamp(per/hr) = 7600 Equivalent Crimsons: Crimson = 170 Gold = 5 Green = 3 Blue = 15 Lamp = 20 205 crimsons per hour equivalent Cost = Break even (titan scrolls) Cost Comparison Using Robes [hide] These were prices from a few days ago, obviously modify to whatever the current is. For costs for Barrage. Rune Costs 20/01/11 [blood Rune: 365 * 2] [Death Rune 327 * 4] [Water Rune: 29 * 6] 1000 Barrage = (2142gp) *.50 (50% Rune Save) = 1.07M in COST per 2 Hours. + 20% Chance of saving ~350gp (avg death/blood) per cast.= ~70gp per cast (included in above barrage sum) Recharge Robes = 1.5Hrs of FOG (F2p world) every 8 Hours of Combat. Per Battle Robes you save - 4.3M in Cost. Thus if your income is < 2.8M an hour you should use Battle Robes. 1000 Barrages will typically give you ~370 Crimsons (treat the other runes as "free") Cost per Crimson = 2890 gp For Burst: [Chaos Rune: 51 * 4] [Death Rune 327 * 2] [Water Rune: 29 * 6] 1000 Burst = (1000) *.50 (50% Rune Save) = 500k in COST per 2 Hours. + 20% Chance of saving ~189gp (avg death/chaos) per cast.= ~37gp per cast (included in above sum) Recharge Robes = 1.5Hrs of FOG (F2p world) every 8 Hours of Combat. Per Battle Robes you save - 2M in Cost. Thus if your income is < 1.5M an hour you should use Battle Robes. 1000 Bursts will give you ~ 270 Crimsons (Other runes not included) Cost per Crimson = 1850gp [/hide] Barrage Vs Burst w/ Robes [hide] 7500 Crimsons actual as an example (other runes not taken into consideration) Total cost for 7500 Crimson for Barrage: 20,000 Barrages Required = 21.5m (With Robes) 40 Hours 5 Battle Robes Recharges (7.5 Hours) Total Time & Cost 47.5 Hours 21.5m Total cost for 7500 Crimson for Burst 27,000 Burst Required = 13.5M 54 Hours 7 Battle Robes Recharges (10.5 Hours) Total Time & Cost 64.5 Hours 13.5M Cost Difference: 21.5M - 13.5M = 8M Time Difference: 64.5 - 47.5 = 17 Hours Cost Vs Time = 8 Million gp / 17 Hours = 470,000 If you plan on using Battle Robes & have access to both Ice Barrage and Ice Burst, you should NOT use ice burst if you plan on using and recharging robes. (500k an hr can be made easily) If you are not using Robes, double the cost/hr. Since Battle Robes last 8 hours (of rock lobs), playing FoG and assuming you can gain the tokens in 90minutes (from personal experience). 90 minutes of FoG (burst) = 2m equivalent "gp" 90 minutes of FoG (barrage) = 4m equivalent "gp" [/hide] [/hide] TLDR EQUIVALENT CRIMSON RATES: Bursting: 170 Barraging: 240 Waterfiend AC: 150 Waterfiend CT: 205 Some of that info should be of some help to people. The waterfiend kill rates probably aren't accurate as it varies a lot depending what familiar you have & if you have, void, overload, turmoil, maul etc.

Hmm, so only around 1.2m an hr equivalent. I guess i'll have to just play the minigame - if I enjoy it I won't mind it, but I guess i'm not going to sit through tedium if I don't like it, as 1.2m an hr equiv isn't really high enough. Thanks for the answers anyway

Righto, so I just did the Stealing Creation tutorial (lol it's been out how long?) I'm looking at getting some hammers for Construction & Smithing if they're worth it. So each hammer gives 50750 xp * the gp/xp method, which is around 8.50, so each hammer is worth 425k gp I guess. Grimy's sheets lists hammers at 720 seconds per hammer, or 12minutes. Looking at how the game works it gives you reward points based off your individual score? So you can't really bludge or leech points off it, (or if you can please tell). How does FastSC work, is there a particular method to follow to achieve decent score, how long does a game last for, as far as I can tell every 20k points I get will get me a hammer. Is there a reward points cap? Would I be able to earn at least 2 hammers an hr on standard SC worlds? Have I been naive in calculating what a hammer is worth? Or if you could do this at the maximum rate of earning 5 hammers per hour, this is extremely worth it (especially as it cuts down on time spent doing the tedious process (construction)