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This is pretty much what I thought when I saw the astronomy class, l0l. Except without the dog tbh.

I think you are allowed to take, extremes & overloads there. Just your stats are capped to the boosts that super's give you.

Wrong video lol. Also fair enough on your previous point if people can earn 70k/hr while watching a movie etc.

I'm not too sure about that. Agility is pretty click intensive as well. You were doing that at the Nature Altar right? Zmi is considerably faster. You can already get 65k/h on your own there. So runners could potentially bump it up to about ~80k/hour. Going by the same increase as you had over Grhaaking nature runes, which is around 30k/h I think. Agility on the barb extended course is only 8 clicks and since there are certain angles which results in you not having to rotate the screen it results in agility being very laid back. I averaged 63k xp/hr on the barb extended course while watching movies which made 99 so much easier. For fishing if you decide to do rocktails that is very simple, quite afkable. If you decide to do barb it is repetitive and centred around a very small area and the hand movements become second nature. I got my 99 fishing before living rock caverns and before the cake/purple sweets thing was discovered, but i averaged 58k xp/hr doing barb while watching movies. To get your stated 65k xp/hr in rc is no doubt possible, but to be consistent over an extended period would be, I think, very hard. Let's say from 99 to 200m xp one did rc, agility or fishing straight. There maybe certain periods over millions or tens of millions of xp where rc would have a higher xp/hr but overall I think it would be lower. Not by a lot, but considering it does require more effort, concentration, etc it, to me, is the obvious choice when it comes to effigies. [hide] For rc, yea 65k xp/hr is possible now, but when I did the 40-45k xp/hr from running was on par with zmi as the features which result in that xp/hr were either not present or not known (i.e. deposit all or mouse keys). As for the zmi running: I too would be amazed if that took off. I'm sure rcers would keep the good runes and drop the others, but that still leaves a lot of other runes to drop. It would therefore become a trade off between profit and xp until the optimum inventory space to essence traded is found. Crafters may have to accept maybe 20 essence per trade which would offset zmi's advantage over the other altars; mainly nature as it is the most mainstream one and will continue to be so I think. One idea for zmi running would be a sort of gamble from the runners' perspective. The runner would give the crafter a certain number of essence - this number is determined by the runner due to the possibility of pouches and method of teleportiing and banking. It is not determined by the crafter and this is where the gamble comes in to play as the runner then trades this number of essence to the crafter and in return would receive all the runes from the previous runners' essence (i.e. what the crafter just crafted). This would be faster than giving essence back, or paying in cash, or keeping some runes and dropping others. The problem is however that it is biased towards the crafter in that the crafter neither loses nor gains any money. The runners however are at a disadvantage as players can be dishonest (and no doubt there always will be some). High rc levels result in a profit at zmi, and although the runner doesnt know what they're going to get they can expect a profit compared to cost of the pure essence they provided. I'm sure there is a level where you stop losing money and start making money from zmi and I'm sure there would be crafters who'd try to dupe runners by giving them back runes worth less than the essence they received.[/hide] Lolwut? MINIMUM(who the eff does minimum anyway?), it is 10-11 clicks/lap and that's for perfect laps. If you're only doing 8 clicks/lap and getting 63k Xp/hr, that means you're not even making an attempt at doing tricks, much less full perfect laps. Anyone in my clan can easily average 70k+ Xp/hr. Concerning Rc, if you're that slow in Agility you'll be just as slow when it comes to Runecrafting, so I wouldn't be expecting any 60k+ rates from you. Btw, Fishing is well over 80k Xp/hr if done right. Not everyone plays this game like a robot lmfao

More like 119 Greens.

Try yak's if you can get to Neitznot, not sure if you need a quest to get there, probably do. Otherwise you're looking at Spiders or anything aggressive in Stronghold of Security, since you'll be training only strength with the above stats. When you are members the bulk of your initial cash from monsters, will probably come from herbs. But due to your def level and prayer level, you will most likely be confined to much lower level things to train on. Preferably ones that don't do much damage and have a decent chunk of HP, since you'll have to bank too often otherwise. Def can compensate for prayer, or visa versa, but without both, it severely limits your options. (Via unlocking areas through quests (quest reward xp and requirements)) and you can't protect melee/wear decent armour.

Keep saving them until I can open them all... then spend them most likely on Runecrafting unless the profit/hr or other radical changes happen to that skill. I have now separated my effigy guide to my other projects so that it can be complete.

UPDATED: All pictures added, & random calculations and final figures for this experiment. Some of it should be relatively interesting, some of it already known.

Lol, I give their "abstinence" like a week max.

I think for verified by visa, as an example, the company itself has to elect to sign up to the scheme. But due to the small scale payments available on the Runescape site, it's probably not worth it for them. Having said that, it would of fixed their problems I think they had with people reverse-charging on CC's or stolen CC's in their RWT article a while ago. Another example of relatively dodgy card storing is Amazon. There when you load your card onto your account to buy something, it automatically saves it unless you remove it (your card details). So all people need is your email address + your password. I found this hard to believe from such a big internet shopping site such as Amazon, but it seems they've elected for convenience rather than security (I can just click something to buy it and off it goes) Verified by Visa is also available outside of the US, at least I have it here in the UK.

Proselyte, prot melee, use a cannon & bring eee or a unicorn since you don't have a yak. After meleeing them for so long I've recently switched to mage. Yeah... I aint going back to melee lol

Are those numbers based on the same ratio's I gave you the other day? Calculations and proof from my notepad for the TLDR down the bottom Barrage Vs Burst w/ Robes Total cost for 7500 Crimson for Barrage: 20,000 Barrages Required = 21.5m (With Robes) 40 Hours 5 Battle Robes Recharges (7.5 Hours) Total Time & Cost 47.5 Hours 21.5m Total cost for 7500 Crimson for Burst 27,000 Burst Required = 13.5M 54 Hours 7 Battle Robes Recharges (10.5 Hours) Total Time & Cost 64.5 Hours 13.5M Cost Difference: 21.5M - 13.5M = 8M Time Difference: 64.5 - 47.5 = 17 Hours Cost Vs Time = 8 Million gp / 17 Hours = 470,000 You would need to earn LESS than 500k an hour to Burst over Barrage assuming you use Battle Robes. (And yes I'm going to copy paste this for every rock lob question from now on lol)

20k left to 99 Slayer. Will get it whenever. Doing all the calculations etc now. So far ~ 30m profit made (without Visage) Costs were around 45m and ending Gp worth is 75m Hours taken is around 96 Effigies gained 41 This makes powerslaying for effigies around 300k profit per hr (which is low, but I wasn't expecting it to profit at all) Will do full list of calcs etc in a bit,

Relationship? Sounds serious. Hope it can cook and clean.

They aren't needed, that's why i put almost. But if you plan to camp for a 100 seeds, or any length of time for that matter, it may get tedious banking every 15-20minutes. I say herbicide is more important as spamming right click on every drop pile really WILL get tedious.

Spectres - Yak & Herbicide almost required to bother Nechryael - Steel/Iron Titan required to get a vast kill rate. Dagannoth - Cannon and lots of clicking required. Just buy the seeds and do something else to earn the gp to buy them. The new ancient mages in Zaros GWD drop noted torstol I believe. Unless you are a hardcore DIY'er, the rarity of torstol seeds makes them impracticable to camp for.

Running takes 45 Seconds to the Run Spa Pool. Running from the charter boat takes 20 seconds + however you board the boat + travel time of the boat.

@ 300 Kills per Hour. 45% Crimson 22% No charm 21% Gold 10% Green 2% Blue (Within a couple of % or so) 135 Crimson 63 Gold 30 Green 6 Blue Rough sample. A lot more summoning XP than Waterfiends (non-CT) but a lot more expensive.

Lunar tele to Catherby -> Charter Boat most convenient however is dueling ring or MA tele and run east lol

You can use NPC contact on lunars I guess. There is a CC but it's hardly used & is mainly full of ppl leeching rather than finding the actual worlds it's active on. "Obelisk Chat"

Last update before I get 99 tomorrow. Finally got my 1st Visage AND 1st abyssal head in the same day lol. ----------------------------------------------------------- Cumulative Update Time Elapsed: 88 Hours Slayer XP Gained: 3,225,000 Avg Slayer Xp/Hr: 36650 Effigies so far: 40 Effigy/Hr: ~2:12 Effigy/XP: 1/80k Whips: 8 SoL's: 1 Dark Bows: 2 Visage: 1 ------------------------------------------------------------ Around 350k to go I think for tomorrow. Will overshoot my time expected, however because of the testing and frequency of abyssals tasks, the xp rate has been below the 40k prediction. No idea what the loots going to be like, but should be good ;)

Thanks. Guess this is worth blogging about. By the way, if anyone else wants to log data, i'll need a sample size of 1000 or so and all drops logged, to try gauge drop %'s of the typical average loot to go with the unique drops.

Bring some what? I think it's more the 5 secs til system update good fight message.

Ah Yep. My 1st one. lol

okay, most of your points have some merit to them, but how do you explain this? are you [developmentally delayed]ed? I'm referring to those who operate more than one account, simultaneously, then transfer the wealth from these other accounts into one central account. Once upon a time, such methods were considered "against the rules", as I recall. Meh - evolve or die, I always say. I'll continue to play. I only hope that Jagex will allow us to increase the limit on our Ignore List within the game. :rolleyes: Unfortunately, IMO, Jagex are letting the worst dregs of the game dictate how it's going to be played. The people who want to scam, steal and otherwise generally behave badly, are being given free licence, once again, to wreak havoc upon the unsuspecting and ill-prepared. <_< At least you've got the right attitude with evolve or adapt I guess ;) Better than giving up.