Golvellius

I think you are a little mislead. Here, let me explain. Farming can make a lot of wealth. Seeds don't always cost too much, and deaths are only 1/9, or 0/9 if you pay the farmer, if possible While trees are the best xp, a run of snaps gives ~4k xp, which adds up over time. (Equal to ~1 maple tree, and you profit, not loss). I agree though, while you say trees are a money sink. It's why I put 99 farming on hold. One snapdragon seed is currently 48k. 1 snapdragon herb is currently 11k. You'll average 7 herbs per patch. So if you planted 9 patches, you should expect 63 herbs. However, 1 in 9 patches die, so it's really only 56 herbs. Now let's see. 9 snap seeds is 432k. 56 snap herbs are 616k. So if you farm 9 patches, you should expect about 184k in profits, even though one patch dies. And remember that 9 patches takes only 10 minutes. However, in reality, you'd get to 10 patches in 10 minutes of effort (1 run = 5 patches = 5 minutes, so just double everything). So 10 patches yields 70 herbs. However, ~11.1% of those will die. So you'd actually get ~62.23 herbs. That's 684,530 gp. All the seeds cost 480k. That's a profit of 204530 in just 10 minutes, including deaths. So in one hour of time (12 runs), you will make 1.2m, and you'll also have ~48k farming xp to boot. Compare that to PAYING ~400k for that same xp (palms/maples). Feel free to do the math again yourself. But deaths ARE 1/9, and the AVERAGE (if living) is 7. Doubt your playing the same game as I. My game called Runescape goes like this. Each trip to all 5 allotments yields between 20-30 herbs, 5 on average per seed. That includes death and bonus yields. Is as simple as that, don't talk to me about death rates or bonuses because you don't know what the true values were coded at. I simply count whats in my bank and its in that range every stinking time. So, using your prices of 11k per herb that means that I spend 48k to make 55k per patch. So thats 30k a trip, whoopee, hell you could 26k one kill with 0% ep and you could probably get more than that in cakes or something, rofl. Thats if I buy and sell it all in the same day and dont consider the fact that seeds and herbs are some of the most manipulated objects in runescape that go through constant oscillations of starvation to flooding. I usually loose out with the market fluctuations like most people not called "manipulators" so I can easily see that 30k evaporate into a break even situation. I'll leave out any debate on time per trip as I always do them with trees and poison ivy and a total trip takes me between 30minutes to an hour. But, frankly, farming is just another buyable skill. Its only frustrating in that you can only plant so much in one day or that you have to try and arrange some kind of schedule. I personally spent all my $$ on a herblore cape over farming because its more rarer and I did it all in a couple of weeks at my pace. I have no desire to make a 100mil back to finish off farming given the way the game is nowadays and because buying skills doesn't seem like much of an accomplishment. And yes, I have bought quite a few skills, but at least with the others (smithing, crafting, fletching), I had fight for the little clay tools.

What wealth? Seeds cost too much and stuff always dies unless you baby sit it. I'm lucky to break even in herbs and they aren't worth doing to be honest. I mean if you want levels your going to be doing trees right? Trees are nothing but a huge money sink like herlore anyhow. I guess if you like vinesweeper than it would be okay, but the xp rates have always been to low for me, thats why I abandoned it long ago after getting a respectable level.

Whine and you shall get what you want. Praise Saints Andrew and Mark! Team Monster Hunting will be back where it belongs. That is as the only way to make money which you can use to buy your 99s off resources gathered by noobs and bots. And if you don't like it then don't play runescape because Runescape is trying to become the kid friendly WOW. Hot! :wall:

Coinshare and Godwars trashed the game, but you probably didn't notice since your too busy camping for hilts. But, now Jagex in its team-oriented, brain-storming brillance has come up with a new way to rake in cash that benefits the noobs and the muggers of runescape and your going to cry about it??? Typical, but don't worry Jagex will probably keep on catering to the whiners instead of the real players who like to work on skills by collecting resources. I'm sure if you keep whining about 26k in about a year or two they will do something which will render the other 95% of the game more useless than it is now. Which will be a feat in of itself.

But neither of these two "new" moneymaking methods should actually produce money. That's where the inflation is coming in. Money is being produced in pvp where it isn't being lost. Exactly. It's like what people were afraid about with coinshare, only this time the fears are actually being realized. It's not about profit so much as it's about cash. The fears of coinshare were realized and the game was set horriblely out of balance. The bloated prices of godwars items are proof of that. Your just blind to it because you like to play at godwards. I'm sick of all this 26k whining. Game was already ruined and your too late to [bleep] about it. Let all the noobs and pkers have their turn at idiotic riches. The only question I'm interested in is when will us skillers have our piece of the pie.

Your a little late to be calling the economy ruined. Jagex blew it up with godwars dungeon and coinshare a couple of years ago. I like the idea of jagex flirting with fixed price items like statues. Could be real good if they start introducing that in collectable resources to help rebalance the game.

4 years to the date now and people are calling barrows the armour of the noobs although there is nothing that performs better that lasts more than an hour before disappearing. And a big rofl at those who thing bunyips and ponies are better than guthans. Best thing I ever summoning was that essence banking stiff and how useful is it to mine essence at 2k an hr for a high level? Lol...

Was wondering what would be this year's firemaking. Guess I'll just have to add an asterik next to my accomplishment. They seriously need to do this kind of crap to slayer, farming, summoning, and rc.

21 pages and I bet nobody has the solution. But, don't worry I do. Jagex can fix the prices to high alch price or whatever! Who needs player controlled prices? Its a game and I like it fair as possible. The current system is so full of restrictions that it could only be made for the exploitation of a few non-players (merchant/gold seller). It just plain just sucks @$$. Its not even playable for anybody who knew better times in RS. Of course you could open it all up again. I mean the free markets and bots would eventually fix everything by pinching off the bloated wings of the most obscenely overpriced combat items making them no longer attractive to be horded around. Of course, then everybody would cry about the bots, gold selling, and falling prices. But other than the last item, eveything else is still going on today, much to Jagex's chagrin and constant idiotic tweeking.

DIY is dead. Killed by Jagex's desire to turn a uniqure single player game set in a multiplayer world into a run of the mill multiplayer game like every other game on the internet except with very subpar graphics... Raw materials are near worthless now compared to team oriented drops. DIY is now just for those diehards that want some kind of bragging rights by saying "hey I got my own ores and it took me 2 years to get 99 smithing when you got it in a month at godwards.

Leprechauns already changed once in the last year... How many times they going to change them while things like trolls and hobgoblins never get updated? At this rate it will take 2 consecutive years of "update years" to correct all the mistakes in the game from 08 alone! I see no reason to login again anytime soon, let alone pay them a dime.

All skills are buyable if you accept the definition of buyable meaning that through the consumption of certain supplies you increase your rate of xp gain. Just some examples of how to buy the "nonbuyables". Agility- super energy pots or summoning beasts Mining- dwarf ale or summoning beasts for mining bonuses Runecrafting- super energy pots or summoning beast, and discarding made runes for faster banking Woodcutting- summoning beasts, and axeman's folly Fishing- Summoning beasts, fishing pots Thieving- Stat boosting ales, summoning beast, those degrading pickpocket gloves Hunting- hunting grenwall by buying that meat you need of the other creature, summoning beasts, and the hunter pot For melee, using pots, food, and/or prayers would be the consumables.

Why? You have a nice website, a front page with big bold print to advertise. Why revert back to 1 line ascii text messages like it's the internet in its infancy? Twitter makes no sense. Texting on a phone where you can actually send and recieve voice makes no sense. But if you prefer to regress like the rest of society be my guest. I couldn't care less about live one sentence updates of "hey we gonna update the homepage this week", "couldn't update stuck in the bathroom", etc...

If this garbage doesn't appeal to Runescape's dregs then nothing will and its time for Jagex to cut them loose and not bring them back like last time 2 months of patch note updates so this sad sack one could be born...

Cheese for your whine? They won't be 15k for long. Instead feel sorry for those that bothered with the Zogres. They are the ones who are losing out.

I don't understand why people admire Zaros. He was a weak or stupid god, because he was overthrown by his own follower. Zamorak was greater than Zaros and I am sure that Zamorak would strike down Zaros again without hesitation if he appeared again in the world. I think the Zaros storyline is dead other than to add a touch of depth and history to runescape.

It used to be hard. Try getting 85 before masks, barrow gloves, defenders, and when whips cost too much to buy and you sought out getting one on your own. It meant something back then, when the whip was the ultimate prize. Now its a boring drudgery thats like twice as fast and a fraction of the accomplishment that it used to be. Slayer is dead, just another nerfed skill with an ughly emote cape...

Didn't know I was supposed to speak to it. I just got the cabbage there and there was a whole bunch of fireworks like getting 99 and the big cabbage said hooray. You don't have to kill it or anything. I have an after the fact pic, because somehow it didn't take when I did it with the big cabbage jumping for joy.

before after If you don't like it now then you never will so stop whining about this and quest #150.

Take off God Wars dungeon as it is merely a frozen battlefield with natural features not anything that could be defined as a structure. Put in its place either Dorgashinkaan (sp.) or the temple of Guthix.

Download it if you want to be the new bug tester for Microsoft. I won't, I am too busy being the bug tester for Jagex... #-o

How does having a team help there? Personal interaction, races, etc..

O RLY? Please, pray tell. Goto gnomecopters tour of pest control. Look at the names of the NPC "players" running around. They supposedly are cryptic versions of the tipit staff members. I always found it far fetched, but thats probably what he is talking about.

Fun course, xp needed nerfed bad since it was tarnishing one of only two capes that are grueling to master (runecrafting being the other). I mean come on you got the circus, ape atoll with the world 46 team, and the dorg powerstation to train effectively at. I can remember running alone for 3 months straight at the ape atoll course to get 99. My dream for agility since they won't just outright use it as a gatekeeper to rewarding areas would be to merge runecrafting and agility together on a course. Have an altar (like ourania or soul) in the middle of the course and a npc at the ends who could unote your ess and send your runes to the bank.

Whats his clan chat's name? I thought he didn't give out information on his account for privacy.