Vincent

it reads like a rant. it's a good topic but i dont think it applies to runescape. it's easy to find things to gripe about, the loudest ranter is usually what is heard. not every update you will like, look at the slayer update (slayer rings, blocking assignments, slayer helm) and tell me about functionality. gameplay has always been a top priority for jagex and runescape and it's improved vastly. i say enjoy the current content and look forward to all the updates, graphics and game content. i think the article is biased and puts forth minimal arguments; runescape gameplay has always been a high priority. look at the runecrafting skill. imagine runecrafting without the abyss or zmi or astral runes or even the ge. the game is improving contentwise so i dont see a sound basis for your arguments/rant. and what is wrong with an OPTIONAL update to graphics? especially the full screen and new interface? the graphics people work with the content people but that doesnt mean there will be less functional updates to the game. my theory is if it were up to some ranters we'd still be playing runescape classic with no updates.

look it up on the g.e. it sells for like 1793 gp each the 500kg does. and its good xp if that's what you want to train. do the quest enakrah's lament and get a bunch of extra dung to recharge your amulet then teleport there with the camulet and bank at castle wars. granite 500kg is hugely sought after and will be for some time to come.

cockatrice, vampires, pyrefiends, jogres take your pick but i find that slayer monsters tend to drop more clues, that's been my experience.

i recommend you use tipit's summoning calculator. http://www.tip.it/runescape/?page=summoning_calc.htm that should help. then compare the costs and benefits of the familiars, of the 2nds, and the xp.

it's actually pretty good. i'd get members and train slayer.

take your time and think about this. this isnt rocket science. list your favorite and least favorite sound effects. least favorite: teleport portal sound effect in wilderness alching sound effect birds in grand tree fishing spot moving favorite: spirit tree travel roots teleport sound the monk's healing sound effect platypus bark :mrgreen: the noise the wall beast makes when it dies and drops whatever it drops.

good you got your acct back. worldpay is so much better than pay by cash. same thing happened to me awhile ago. i'd go with worldpay if you have a choice. it's interesting how you were f2p, once you get members it's so worth it that going back to f2p just isnt an option. you have an interesting story and i think you should keep the phat and you should be able to make good money so that selling it would be unnecessary. and good luck with hunting you've already got a good start on it i see. i have to say i admire your determination and ability to actualise your goals. you have a very good account and mage lvl. hope you dont have any more problems with billing etc.

nice. well deserved i'm sure. i too would like to see a bank pic if you want to post 1 and i'd also like to know what your plans are now. and is chenjs your account also? and is there a story behind that?

i like it. i dont really care what some of the people here have to say. you probably have higher runecrafting than 90% of the lvl 100+. your stats are really good. these people have no idea... have fun in members training the member skills. i like the crafting and herblore lvls especially; along with the runecraft and good amount of maple logs. you may want to craft laws using the balloons on entrana at 54 rc or do the zmi altar. it'd be tough doing the abyss because of your low hitpoint lvl. but maybe you could do it idk. hunting is a very profitable skill in members. anyway, i think its a good account and it's serving its purpose if you ask me. 9/10

oh well. a lot's gone on between those two bank pics. actually the bank pics werent in a saved file on my comp. they were stored on a file site i used back in the day posting pics. like imageshack but not imageshack. and for some reason i stored the urls on a text page. brings back a ton of memories and its almost hard to believe that that was my bank back then. and looking at lvl 104s banks now its kind of funny. i guess you had to be there... was hoping for more comments, suggestions really. been in kind of a rut. when not sure what to do in runescape, i collect charms; at least that's making progress towards a goal. there are items i would like to have that i'll get in my own time. like master wand, mage book, etc. so even at this lvl of done... there's still a lot of havent yet and i like it that way really.

this is my bank sometime after i joined members, a few months in; i joined members shortly after rs2 came out. i didnt like training on rs2 with the scimitar, so i decided i'd get members; i was used to training with r2h. my best guess is this is my bank from late june 2004. shortly after priest in peril was released. i was thrilled to find this while cleaning up old files. : [hide=ancient bank pic gotta love this bank and old stat pic] 8) :D :wink: :roll: :twisted: [/hide] the opposite of streamlined. my latest bank. lots of stuff; best way to describe it. but i need all this stuff right? [hide=new bank] [/hide] :lol: i'd really love it if someone could give me a good solid estimate of its worth. seriously, i'd like to know. but if you dont, i understand. just a good solid estimate. still working on 99 summoning. herb seeds are guam, merrentil, tarromin, spirit weed, harralander, irit, toadflax, avantoe, kwuarm, snapdragon, ranarr, cadantine, lantadyme. herbs are merrentil, tarromin, harralander, ranarr, toadflax, spirit weed, irit, avantoe, snapdragon, kwuarm, cadantine, lantadyme, dwarf weed, torstol. saplings are willow, pineapple and calquat. the glass orbs are uncharged. the sets are ahrim's and karil's.

i'd like the option to be able to dock on/off the chat area, minimap and stats/equipments etc. i also liked a picture someone made for a rs3 pic showing nighttime/daytime. but couldnt find it. the great thing about runescape being a browser game it's astoundingly easy to multitask and do other things which is a big plus. but for certain times a full screen option would be ideal. here's my version. so it'd look like this. 1 button you could hit for full screen mode with the options of docking panels. in the regular mode you could also dock panels if you chose.

i guess i can live with the changes. i still like this community. i think yesterday i was a little unrealistic about my expectations. i appreciate the work of the staff getting the site back up and doing their best to get it organised etc. i still see a lot of cut-off posts but i'm sure mods will get to those eventually. so i'm back and rolling with the changes; i really do like this site and i'm optimistic but hands off when it comes to how it's run. hoping for the best. i look forward to seeing this forum grow and i'll stick around. come what may. :?

my honest thoughts are i feel i've been jerked around by tif. you took the forums down for a few days then back up. for no real good reason i can see. and i still see ppl's threads totally messed up. no new skins. stupid smilies. i have to say something is wrong if the kind of people you had work for this site did what they did. either they were justifiably po'd by something you guys did OR they were totally lacking and should not have ever been considered for helping to manage the site. tipit has been on the decline for awhile and honestly i'm looking into finding a better site/community if one exists. that has their act together and priorities right and doesnt play favorites and have some kind of agenda.

i was just thinking does the current list of familiars give hints or indications that would help predict future required "2nds" needed for the upcoming familiars in feb; for pouch creation? i think that's a reasonable conclusion. so what current items, or will they be new items, do you think will become the next "high demand 2nds". any ideas, guesses, thoughts? and these upcoming familiars in feb are indeed a treat to feast on and look forward to along with looking forward to unlocking the abilities to summon and use the current familiars and their special attacks. and about the new dungeon... it's multi. great place for a cannon, so can you bring a cannon down there? for the dust devils? for the gargoyles? jellies! fire giants nechryl, black demons and slayer assignments ie zombies, skeletons, etc.? i think these updates are pretty great. 8-) edit: i guess the answer is no. no cannon allowed. oh well can still use multi attacks like the barker toad and maybe some other familiars have multi-target attacks? also can still use ancient magicks and chinchompas i guess.

got bored while waiting for summoning. did some clues. these are the most recent six clues i've done. not the best but, above average.

it depends what you like doing. always spend within your means. meaning if you are able to make a lot of money quickly by all means spend quickly but dont bury yourself into a hole. now the first thing you would want to do is buy water filled vials. enough for 99 and then some. and i know what i'm talking about. :) i do have 99 herblore. the rest i'm going to leave to you because i think it takes away some of the fun if someone just hands you that information. take a look at the herblore 2nds which are the easiest/cheapest to get/buy? now take a look at the herbs; what gives what xp and what can you sell and what can you accept as a loss? are some potions easier to sell? are there some potions you plan on using yourself? 99 herblore is very achievable. good luck with it. 8-)

This guide is to help people that dont play that often; but often enough to benefit from this. Also for those that struggle making money and balancing that with other aspects of the game. Also to increase stocks of certain items. Only members are able to use these features. Now, you ask how do i make money with no work at all? Easy. 1st off. Let me introduce you to Zaff. He sells battlestaves in Varrock. right click him once a day for your supply of battlestaves. battlestaves are used in crafting. they sell for on average 8.4k on the g.e. he sells them 7k each :). buy your staves then put them on the g.e. and they will sell pretty much instantly at the 8.4k price. Varrock Note: if you've done the varrock achievement diary he will increase the amount of staves per day you can buy from him up to 64/day. the base amount is 7 or 8 i believe but again it's all profit; so buy however many you can. remember to wear your varrock armour if you have earned it. Ok. 2nd. Our friend Arhein, standing across from the bank in Catherby near the dock sells pineapples and seaweed. use the talk option to buy all the seaweed and pineapples he will sell you. he sells you 40 pineapples for 2 gp each. he also sells 80 seaweed 2 gp each. now you're asking why should i buy seaweed and pineapples from Arhein? pineapples are used for supercompost and for payment to the farmers for papaya trees. they sell on the g.e. for around 186 gp each! ok now what about seaweed... seaweed is used to make glass. seaweed sells for 323 gp each on the g.e. Catherby ok so from 1 day you spend lets say 7x64 on staves = 448k now you sell those staves 8.4kx64=537.6k that's about 96k profit for nothing! now you have 40 pineapple and 80 seaweed bought for 240 gp. you can sell those for 40x186=7440 and seaweed 80x323=25840 96000 7440 25840 129,280 gp that's about 130k gp per day. for nothing. now multiply that by 7. so for a week that's 910k. 52 weeks in a year. for a grand total of 47.32M. yes that's million. all you need is the starter gp to buy the daily staves, or however many you can buy at the time, the amount you can buy will vary, based on how much of the varrock achievement diary you've done, but it's all profit. and you will also need to visit catherby to buy the seaweed and pineapples. Arnhein is conveniently located near the bank for that. This is not intended to be your only source of gp. doing this will however increase your wealth and the rest is up to you.

is this still a problem? if it's been fixed, i think leaving this thread unlocked just adds to any confusion.

to be perfectly honest the runecrafting skill needed balancing. with bots supplying the ess and crafters flooding the market, rune prices dropped, magic levels gained, and tons of gp flooded the market from alchers. while fast free laws and "free" double nats worlds cant function with the trade imbalance in effect, unless jagex changes that, which i think they will but if and until then... laws will raise in price and so will nature runes and deaths and all runes really. the reason, besides these companies being down, is essence prices are increasing to "what they're worth" in my opinion. much profit can be gained through runecrafting. but it is a skill not for the lazy! so fewer crafters due to that fact. but still good profit for the non-lazy players that will craft. should jagex change pure essence? no they shouldnt. look at coal it's 150 gp thereabouts for a skill that barely makes a profit sometimes, smithing. now with coal it's available to be bought from free players as well as members. pure essence only mined on p2p. so, tell me how pure essence should be less than coal? answer: it really shouldnt be. so will jagex change pure essence so that people can craft 60k runes a day without mining any of their essence? i hope not but... will they change it so that it goes to manage thy kingdom; yeah i think they might; which basically means tons of non-crafters will sell the essence they wont be crafting. is that right? is that how the game should work? i dont think so but jagex wants more people to do all quests like kingdom of miscellania so they might add it there. just means the lazy non-runecrafters will be able to buy cheap runes and sell their essence to the crafters. oh well... +1 for the lazy and back to normal for runecrafters that make more money buying their ess and crafting then if they were to mine ess and craft it. just means runes will be supplied by few for the many, which is how it is now anyway. we'll see what happens. would be cool if the life rune was added to the game with blood and soul altars coming in 2008?

those are amazing mechana. here's my take on it. [hide]the grey "scrolls" are like "unid herbs" cant use unless you have the level. the coloured "scrolls" are "ided" that or you have all the needed "stuff" to summon it. the scrolls are drops. the "bags" are like many "mort myre pouches" meaning the individual scrolls are likely stackable in your inventory and in your bank (all of course stackable in bank; but also while in the "pouches"). the "pouches" can be bought from a store i believe. of course they're empty when bought. but light up when filled with a scroll to indicate not empty. you must use the scroll with the pouch in order to summon it; so it's ready to be cast like a "teletablet" but just uses up 1 scroll or the scroll. that or its just storage for the scroll or like "a vial" for preparation. only lights up when you have all the required items to "cast". the 1's with blue colouring on the "bag" are what i think are the extremely rare 1's. i could be wrong but that's what i think. that or they're the extremely common 1's which is less likely. or maybe quest related. the items are the same; i mean the only difference between the litup 1's and the grey 1's are that they're "activated" when lit up. or ready to be "activated". or in the case of the pouches (full) versus empty. its possible they're like "potions" where all the ingredients need to be applied and the lvls required for it to be "ready". 1 of them looks like a giant mosquito. some very strange stuff but very interesting. i think we could use more bankspace after its release. these are just some of my observations. the things on this thread show just how much time has gone into this skill. it's quite impressive and seems to be a very good skill which is complex and extensive. very cool. 8-) getting ready for summoning's release. :D [/hide]

its funny a lot of people that play runescape dont realise the amount of educational benefit it provides to those that would not be benefitting from this normally. in other words if it's a game you like you're going to learn; there's educational games but if the person thinks it's only for educational purposes that's "not cool" and it's "not as fun". the educational benefits are an added bonus or byproduct since it is something you enjoy doing. it's like a job is more than the means to pay your bills. the game is more than just entertainment; if teachers could put in their little educational commentaries into a game like runescape if they thought you'd play it then they would and in the process you'd also be learning. :D a lot of children's games and toys are designed like that; runescape is really no exception. surprise. :twisted: one cool fact is you can use the ge as a calculator and no doubt runescape helps people learn english and also with math skills and probably logic development and time management etc. sure it's easy to say that that is all bunk and there isnt those benefits but in fact there really is. and its more fun then "studying". you should always do your homework; i know it sounds boring and all but the reason you're given homework is to help you learn the material and it will sink in. some subjects require intense study others more practice and some memorization. if you need extra help with a specific subject seek help; you'd be surprised how simple some stuff is if it's just explained the right way. good luck with your studies.

http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=564065 it's stickied in 1 of the player made guide sections. get the logs ahead of time because you will probably mess up a few times.

discontinued items are on the decline. not your average investment for your average player. especially when it comes to wearables. what does john do after he gets 10 dragon chains 10 bandos hilts etc. he may buy himself a dc item or like many players chooses to buy some skills or supplies for yet more hilts. the bulk of buyers meaning rwt gold buyers, duellers, has been all but destroyed. so dc items hit their prime in the heyday of these activities, not too surprising. what it will take to get the amount of demand back for dc items is huge. at their current prices; it's a big risk investing in a high value rare due to the amount of time expected to make a worthwhile profit after the january update. the ge tends to convince sellers to sell low and buyers buy low so a reduction in value seems to be expected for quite awhile even though ge doesnt accurately reflect all dc items sale prices currently. what needs to take place for dc items to increase is 1. time of course; the economy/market will work itself out 2. accumulated wealth builds up despite past ways for it to build up... these are the 2 main factors. we all know the supply is decreasing but what about demand? if there's little demand these items may not drop or gain in value much. with the ge there is less cause to believe price manipulation will work so phat sellers will be forced to either accept gold or lose a major portion of their profit margin unless they plan on investing in materials/skilling or trading for other dc items and gold with limited profit margin. meaning very few sales! but in the long term the economy will adjust and wealth will build up and these items are still prized by some so ultimately they will increase in value but not as quickly or illegitamately as in the recent past. that's if jagex decides to keep them tradeable in the game. so anyway. they are what they are; more now then ever. :P

bounty hunter area isnt that small; but the whip's special wasnt that good with old wild and its special isnt good because its such a strong weapon as it is. o/t- how about phoenix necklaces (enchanted diamond necklace)! or abyssal bracelets (enchanted diamond bracelet). these are totally unused because theres' so little benefit; espcially after gravestones. even before the wildy change. maybe their special could be changed to benefit summoning otherwise noone will get any use out of them but i guess that doesnt matter. ring of stone might have some summoning effect. in the kb they say yet unknown abilities.