bedman

hehe, nice one. Maybe not really worth to make a new topic though :D

VERY good points. Nicely put. Couldn't have said it better BUT... I fear you posted this at the wrong moment. All this problems seem so tiny against the major updates of today. It even makes me a bit nostalgic: "look how we were complaining about the triangle, not knowing about the forthcoming devastating updates that would kill the game". (slighly exagerating about "killing the game", but hey :D). Anyway, atm is isnt a problem since all people are fighting as a clan in bounty hunter. Staking is dead too. So yeah, the only thing left is castle wars (and of course the PRINCIPLE that it shouldnt be like that).

One more thing: Even if GE stays like this (within 5%) there could be some problems. Say, the update happened right now: Atm, no one is buying their rares at the GE. The prices are waay behind. My red party hat is around 254M over there (Min 241M), while people are selling them on the forum for 220M or lower (not sure, not many red phat trades). If this update would happen now, people would be forced to buy them for 241M, at least. I dont know how long it takes for the GE to adapt, but if GE prices arent matching "real" prices, the january update could bring some serious trouble. This isnt only applying for rares of course.

remember, after january, people cant give away rares nemore. So if someone quit's its just getting sold at the current rate, or deleted. Something to think about.

I'm quite sure the santa guy isnt duke. I know duke had been selling phats at one time to buy masks/santa's but the thing i'm talking about was happening waaay before that time. (i think when duke was investing in masks/santa's, they were around 2-4m each). ayone can confirm me? Btw, nice bank (forgot to tell you :D)

He's the real deal. Heard about him before. Anyway, what about the guy who had 500 santa's? I remember him buying them all when they were 150k each. Later he quit. At one point, some people were discussing something about 1B and i remember him saying something along the lines of "whenever santa's reached 2M, i have 1 billion, woot :D" Dont know what he has done with them. If he still has them, he has over 10 billion. Not bad imo. I thought there was also a guy who had 700 of them. But at one point he was selling a lot of them, so i'm not sure.

isnt the strength cape green and red? I think its ugly though :s

Attack: colossus Hitpoints: darkdude Range: sirgatory Magic: Tha boas Best of al these: Sirgatory (amazing!) Agility: Kris c6 Construction: solidus Cooking : Veyron (brilliant!) Craftin : Veyron (oh I like this one) Firemaking: Veyron Fishing: Six foot one (nice!) Fletching: Veyron Hunter: Dark Jab Mining: Napoleon (still didnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t like any of them that much) Prayer: Tha boas (but ive seen a nicer entry but I guess its not an official oneÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâæ) Rc: solidus (not original though) Slayer: Lienebau Thieving: jimbob Woodcutting: deadlyaznboy Quest: Fredz

... Then Runescape wouldn't be the same anymore. You wouldn't recognise it.

I think it will work like random events. While burning logs you might randomly get an invitation to get on the island But of course with some restrictions. Perhaps you need to light yew logs or higher, or say fish sharks etc...

Tried it yesterday, and died at a 360. I was luring a 90, the 360 wasn't supposed to att me :shame: Anyway, that doesnt really matter. What DOES matter is the update of today: Does this mean you cant hide with protect from mage and a skill guide interface (so you pray doesnt drain) anymore at the beginning of a wave. I've used this alot... I'm not trying the caves now :-k

Yes I agree with you alright. But it would be really great if yew bows are available to F2pers. Other than alching stupid Steel Platebodies and not to mention a few million Curses, I don't see if there is another way to level Mage in F2p. Yes, mage update, please! I got to 85 magic in f2p. Been using Curse, Earth strike, Crumble Undead, and High alchemy. Its quite okay. you just get owned in the wild if your above 80 combat :s (i'm p2p now btw,)

Hehe, i'm 85 mining too, and I hate it with a passion :D. I got it on f2p, was not much more to do there to make money but rune mining. Since i got member ive never ever runed mined. But how the hell do you make 600k+ an hour with rune mining?

Someone has already said something like that and got a response a little bit like this... D scimmy req. 60 att to wield T Hammers req. 70 att and str to wield I think 99% of people will say D scimmy is better than Hammers.. Don't judge the bow by the req.s to wield it My guess is once people start risking the bow and arrows in the wildy some rune pures and mages will moan but i guess you can't make everyone happy I doubt it will be better than the crystal bow, but it may be close. I can't imagine Jagex making the crystal bow obsolete. People pk with whips, and there are more people capable of getting dark bows than there were with whips. Of course, dark beasts are considerably harder to kill... People will pk with them eventually, but it may become the sort of thing like ancients, where you have to get consistent pks to break even... If Dark Bow + Dragon Arrows = better than crystal bow, then there isnt any problem. If you are using dragon arrows you will be wasting a lot of money, while using a crytal bow, your still doing it relatively cheap. I mean 72gp per shot is okay huh? I see people training with it. But i'm quite sure ive never seen someone training with rune arrrows, let alone dragon ones...

I wont make a price estimate, but i just wanted to say this: Everyone is mentioning the power, the max hits, pking etc... But what about training? As far as I know, a lot of people train with MSB and whatever type of arrows. I'm guessing this bow can also use all types of arrows. Say its gives 85 ranged bonus. Thats a nice 17 extra range bonus when training. Better than buying a robin and paying 4M for an extra +2 ranged attack.

I dunno what everyon's talking about. I'm 103 combat and the fight was a breeze. I brought dhides and full rune, alternated after first form. Used about 7 sharks in total. Compared to kq, its nothing...

EXACTLY what i wanted to say. I had a fury (bought for 4.9). Right when I heard Onyx got cheaper to buy (260k), I sold my fury for 4.6. (they had already dropped because of jewelry update). I happily saw the price dropping to under 4m. When they reached +- 3.8 i realised they wouldnt drop any lower (saw people buying obby capes at 300k each => 3.9 a fury). It was then i bought one for 3.7. (had 2 sellers competing, got 100k out of it :D). I seem to be right, cause they havent been dropping more, since yesterday. (still at around 3.8 minimum).

Hey, getting 99 con is really an achievement, congrats. But i have some questions regarding to it. I am currently 60 con, and going for 70. Now, what would be the best way for me? I used to do oak larders. To get planks i teled home, made my larders, then used glory to edge. However, this way i only can get like 60k xp an hour, because of the ridilously long loading times. I heard tripsis mentioning something about the butler. How does that exactly work? Thanks in advance, Bedman Oh, and goodluck on your 99 def goal, vmc is indeed very good, i hear. Trying to join to, but they're not taking anyone atm;

Could become handy for barrow trips. Just find some monster outside the tunnels, and spec away. Free prayer restore (or extra prayer).

Why kill karil with a whip when he is in his tomb, and kill him with slayer dart when he's your tunnel guy? Sounds a bit strange to me. For me (77 att 85 def 87 mage), i mostly kill him faster with slayer dart.

Are you kidding? I LOVE abbarants. Loads of herb and herb seeds, lvl 3 clues, rune larges, lava battles. And you can use your super salve amulet on them. That together with baxe spec/restore pot gets you free 35s at 85 str :D. Just stick on protect from mage. I use like 4-6 doses to get one full invent of herbs and seeds irit + So you get your money payed back big time. The tasks i leave: Jungle horrors (far walk, actually never tried em) All the things that require slayer dart etc (but i think ill do em now with my newly bought broad arrows) The things i dont like: Black demons (take so long, and i dont really like ranging) Lessers (boring drops) Kalphites (idem, but good xp) Hell hounds (before i could do shortcut) mutated zygomites and probably a few more.

Interesting view, but if you burn mage logs you get LOADS MORE experience an hour than 70k. More like 400k or something.

Asking it again: how many an hour can you get? Btw: stick to monks, way faster xp and nearly as good as shark fishing money wise (if not better) It's written on the main post if you read it... It's under "Other" and just so you'll go look I'll let you find out for yourself. Just read the post before you ask questions about it. Thanks, -Ben When i first read this, i was quite embarassed. I have read you whole post looking for some data about how many an hour/... but couldn't find it. (how many you get in a specific day yes, but an hour, no...). So i went to see and look under other and guess what, i really dont see it. Unless its hidden somewhere in the video... (but that doesnt count as reading the whole post, does it?) In other words, yes i've read your whole post (twice now) and no i cant seem to find where you are telling how many you can get an hour. EDIT: okay, i found it :-). Its above "other" btw. Sorry i guess

At first sight I'd also say these rewards are bad. But when you think about it: Getting a garanteed d chain every 10 or so gambles wouldnt be that much of a help, isnt it? Thats 14M every 10 or so hours = 1.4m an hour. So the people complaining they dont get a chain in 3 games is a bit silly. Howerer, i do get that the rewards which ARENT chains, should be a bit better. (lets say worth 50-150k always). If you count in a chain every 50 or so gambles, it could be a quite effective money making way. (even without the garanteed 50-150k every bet). btw: d med shouldnt be one of those common drops. Its already way too low priced for a dragon item imo. Then about the xp: If they would introduce the new increased rewards from gambling (= 50-150k every 500 ponits gambled, more or less garanteed), the xp rewards shouldnt be that high. Otherwise it would e abit too unbalanced, wouldnt it? But SOME xp, yes. I like the idea someone has suggest about combat xp for attacker, herblore for healer, hunting for defender, and crafting for collector. But this should be instant xp imo, OR very good xp exchanged for points (kind of like changing your pc points for xp) In the last case, it would of course be a hard decision to change it for xp, or gambles. Conclusion: As long as people dont have logs which prove you dont get a chain every 50-75 games, it shouldnt be considered bad. It COULD use another reward improvement, and more needed, an xp improvement.

improvement on existing skills and interfaces. eg: add some more uses to hunter, ...