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1. Too easy I hate the ease of RCin now...no sarcasm pure hatred. 2. I am yet to be attacked by a revenant ghost.. I guess because I am 111 combat and the closest one to me in cmb lvl was 105, but he can't att me in lvl 5. 3. If you know how to use the run feature, you can make it back to edge in a matter of minutes.. 1 and a half at least. probably take you 3 minutes at most. I wouldn't waste 500k on an extra 1 minute of death time, especially when 4 mins is plenty enough time.

Honestly I would have to say no, not at all. I have never tried either of the two, but the SS hits with speed like a whip. Since the whip is the best weapon to train Att and Def with, it makes perfect sense to say that the SS (Sara Sword) is the best to train str with. Me personally I wouldn't spend the money on either one of the,. I'd rather get a d long (or scimmy... d long is my preference) and save the extra money for something else. Maybe supplies or something of that nature.

I would either renew the subscription or get rid of MacAfee and install either Avast Free or AVG Free. A anti virus without up to date definitions is like using a single bucket of water on a full grown forest fire, it makes you fell safe but does very little. The issue is how the browsers are connecting to the internet not the connection itself. What seems to be happening is swiftswitcher is using one set of rules to get to the internet whereas the browsers are using another. I'm not sure how you would check how swiftswitcher is connecting to the internet, but I recommend you find out it is and use the same settings for IE. If IE then works try the same with FF. I downloaded AVG and removed McAfee... and now it works!! Thanks : ... FF is running a bit slow tho , can't get anything right :roll:

Crafting guild with the hot air balloons is fastest I believe.. Or The gold mine where you are shot into the wall by a cannon. I forget which quest it is. You can have the dwarf bank your ores if you give him like 2 or 3 I believe it was.

Wait wait wait, let me get something straight... they put ghosts inside the actual fence of the agility arena?? As in I go across the Ropeswing and BAM!! Barraged??... well that is a poorly judged update :|

This is my only quarrel with the update. No more REAL danger in runecrafting throught the abyss. People not buying alot of runes to get 94 mage or to go pking = a huge Supply with little demand... rune prices BOMB, I dont get my phat. (Yea I know its selfish, but now my phat dream is all but ruined... especially if I cant get it by January) :roll: Also, the rare runecrafting cape become more and more common... they lose there appeal down to that of the fishing and woodcutting cape :-w :? (not to burn on anyone with these capes but they are "skill and chill" capes) --- As for bounty hunting I have no bias toward it. I have yet to try it, but the fact that I can teleport next to my "prey" kind of pushes me away as it takes all the challange out of the mini-game ... And I cant laugh at RC pkers when I down a full sara brew and walk out of wildy without a care in the world. \ --- Yea its more than one thing but my main quarrel is the influx of runecrafters and runes.

The only thing mentioned today that really upset me was the future update of a 3k trade restriction... I started thinking wouldnt it be more intellegent for them to just do the 5% margin like the Grand Exchange instead of doing 3k + or -??? Other than that, the rest of the update really doesn't affect me. Until rune prices bomb due to the mass of people who will start RC'in through the abyss now... :roll: Then its more difficult for me to get the purple phat I set a goal for... :wall:

Made some changes with the new updates.. No more def nubbing it up again RC pkers :cry: , I will miss you guys, you made Abyss RC'in fun. Hopefully the price on runes doesn't bomb :pray: ... or else this phat dream may never come true

How is hitting 15 constantly instead of the occasional 20 pointless?? :roll: Always go with attack over strength. Strength is way overrated.. It's always better to hit more often than high. I am not saying to go on a tangent and get 99 att with 1 str.. now thats pointless and wasting your own time. Anyways, for my suggestion. Train your levels equally but always go with att first. Unless you are specifically training str or def to a level you need or want badly (like 99 def before str or att) :-w

Same here, seems pointless. >.< Normal Pking was fine. Oh wellz. I'm going to say this one more time.... Real... World.... Trading Honestly when they said they were coming out with the new minigame I thought it would be in a remote Volcano NEWLY created. Today when I found out it replaced PK'ing I was kinda dissappointed. Also, I don't get the difficulty in searching for your "prey" when you can teleport right next to them -.- .. It actually takes all the hunting out. Its more like bounty killing :-s Anyways, ON TOPIC: You should honestly read the updates. They may be long but it saves you the time of posting here and waiting for a reply =; :shame:

Honstly I miss rc pkers.. These so called "dangerous ghosts" don't even present a challange, making abyss RC'in 100% boring. At least wit abyss pkers I can get a challange and put my 99 def to the "test". I never been pked my whole abyss rcin career thanks to a sara brew. So hawt! I'm hopin the price of runes doesn't drop terribly... 91 rc was gonna buy me a purple phat.. I think they will bomb tho... my prayers go out :( :pray:

Ash- Did that and nothing Mil- I read throught that article, skimming and rereading points that I thought were relevant, tried a couple of things and still not working -.-

As I was sifting through the rants forum, I found no good thread to make an educated post there since the 13 year olds don't like to read long replies. Since this is the debate forum I will just leave my opinion on the matter and make my exit, with hopes of someone after me having something intellegent and worth-while to say. With that out of the way here it goes. I have been through many updates. Various skills, NPC's and mini-games. I've been playing for 3 years as of now.. With the addition of the newest updates centering around RWT, I feel as though Jagex has indeed been losing sight of a large quantity of their members(not just P2P, but F2P too) Jagex is so focused on RWT'ers and "bad seeds" that they have lost notice of the amount of legitimate players in the game. When you think about it I would have to say that possibly 30-40% of the RS population was bots, scammers, RWT'ers etc etc, just all around bad people. That is a high amount, but what is to come of the 60-70% of hard working honest players who found themselves enjoying the game on a daily basis? This rash of recent updates has all but disreguarded legit players from the game, and in-fact drove many to move on. It is sad that the miniority of people can and have ruined the game for the majority of players. Until viewing the rants section I have a set view on the 4 pages of updates introduced today and slowly developed my own personal bias. I have seen many thought out rants and a vast amount of stupid people rants, yes you all know the ones no need to examplify them here. The people who really have opened my eyes, however, were the ones who actually had little to no quarrels with the news of these updates. I now can see how and where the game is heading and after reading both sides of the subject I have made my decision. ----- The Duel arena, now note I was far from a duelist and I didn't mind the update. 3k Max stake per 15 mins, meh no bother to me, but it affected hundreds if not thousands of other players, which is really not right to be quite honest. I realize you can't please all of the people all of the time but still. "PK'ing is dead" is the common thing stated now. I was never one for pking, maybe a bit of "out of the ordinary" (for myself) ddsing at mage bank for a change of scenery and to break the boredom. With the new PK'ing update I find that I am not really discouraged about it. I mean Yay, now I can't get killed by a pker when RC'ing nats!! But even in that aspect, I enjoyed downing a whole sara brew while in wild, and conversing with my assailent as I walked out of the wild. Now I can no longer do this, which added a "break" to runecrafting via the abyss. Meh, I will get over it. --- However when I read about the 3k trade limit "law" (effective in January for most) I was beside myself. The first thng that popped into my head was "What the hell is with Jagex and the number 3,000?" Apparently if you trade for things more than 3k above the alloted value you are "cheating"... A cheater you say?!?! Well I have been cheating for my whole 3 year runescape "career" and all that time I thought I was just a "bargin hunter". Gosh darnit, well Jagex better hand me some black marks or possibly even BAN me for all the "cheating" I have done. You can wave good-bye to the forums, as the new trading system gets set in, there will be no more cheaper price on the forums than GE. Come on, in all honesty I loved being able to see a price and post on the forums that I was buying a few gp below that price. With the Grand Exchange(and I do LOVE the GE update) there was none of that posting lower in high amounts. I think instead of the 3k "law" Jagex should look at what they have already done and take a "clip from the past" and implement a 5% "law" they had previously done with GE for trades. They could even make the trading interface more "GE'ish" and have a small information spot or total keeper that informs you of the current price of the item (at GE) and 5% + or - that as well as the total cost of the items wanted. That would be a valid way to change the trades without getting drastic, wouldn't it? Also, I saw a post about buying a party hat will be impossible now unless it is dead on with the GE median price. Well the death of merchanting will come this January from the 3k "law", well at least rare merchanting. With that said I don't mind if merchanting dies. I use to merchant, it was a great way to get money but its not the only way and I realize that so I would not be bothered of merching died out. But if I wanted to buy a mask or santa or phat even, I have to be exact with the GE now. I cannot offer that 100k less (since there is always someone willing to sell for lower than other) and save myself 100k. As a matter of fact you know what that is?!?! Bargain hunting!! Oh dear, over 3k, I meant cheating!!! :roll: I just don't see 3,000 gp as a viable trade restriction it just isn't enough. The cost of "living" in RS has grown so exponentially that 3,000 gp isn't even alot to someone fresh off tutorial island. I can remember the joy and happyness I had when I was making 20k now people can't find that same joy until they net 1 million or even 3 million which is astonishing. --- When its all said and done, 3,000 gp isn't enough and thats the only flaw I see in the new trading system. I think the 5% like GE would be reasonable. Jagex is trying to wipe out cheating indefinatly but in doing so are losing valuable customers, or at least we hope we are valued. They just need to face the fact that cheating and cheaters happen. There is no removing the two. Every game has at least one person cheating on it. The best option is to try to lessen it as much as possible without losing your fanbase and move on trying to increase that fanbase. When you think about it, did RWT honestly effect anyone other than the person spending their real money on a video game?? I say it is their money they worked for it, they can spend on whatever they damn well please. I often think, did that guy buying a GS for 50 of his hard earned dollars really affect my playing of this game?? No not at all. Maybe he PK'ed me with it, darn, but had he not of been there with a GS, there would of been someone else there anyway. It was inevitable. (I don't use the words "In my opinion" because obviously this IS indeed my opinion... makes sense doesn't it, just something for others to know as they post their opinions.)

I think this was a way to advertise your account... why would you ask the rarity of an account you already owned and then post pics of hit? :notalk: =; :roll:

Personally I would prefer SGS over AGS. People love to hit big, I find more usefulness in getting back hp and prayer per spec than hitting a 60. Thats just me. Seeing as how all godswords hits 40-50's without the specs anyways :oops: Lol. As for slayer I would still say the SGS is your best bet. You will always get at least a 5 p point and 10 hp gain so it could come in handy. Dont you think eh? :-k

Its best to range them with 90+ range :-w I personally am workin on 90 range now so I can kill them. I mean it's really the only 'solo' thing there really is. Unless you wanna do the chaos elemental too, but thats out in wildy blah blah blah... Maybe KBD, that too is kinda a waste soloing cus you can only kill 2-3 per run w/ melee, maybe more with range, never tried.

I would say a mud staff, nats in the 300-500 range depending on how long u plan on stayin there. And then fire runes/staff for alchs. Other than that I can't think of nothin. Maybe a weapon to spec with like a d mace or dds. I would say when you first enter the dungeon go through the hall and then turn right when you hit the fork in the path.. There are like 4 or 5 spawns over there.

You can get into the Khazard Jungle with great skill and determination.. But really tho it takes a wc axe and machete. But you have to completed up to the part of 'Legends Quest' where you enter the jungle

I agree with him man. I looked at your woocutting and imidiately thought get "Finish off woodcutting" Get 99 woodcutting on yews and maybe even spend a level at the magics in Llyeta, you are looking at a large sum of money from that \ Other than that, Slayer can be good, I made 300k off just alching and collecting coin drops alone. That was over the course of 3 days tho :uhh: It's still good to train though, plus you get the "big" drops on certain tasks and the clues can pay off... eventually :-w

Honestly it all depends on what it is you want to mine. Iron, aparantly, people believe Yanille to be the best spot. Never been there personally, I would of told you Varrock East :anxious: Coal Mith and Addy, I would say the guild. Addy is located right outside the Guild in the Dwarf Mines along with 2 mith rocks which are included with the 5 mith rocks in the guild making that a total of 6 mith rocks. Gold, I personally enjoy the crafting guild, but Dwarven Mines near Keldagrim, where you are shot into a wall with a cannon. That spot is also popular to mine gold. Hope I could help.

Ess is anywhere from 75-90+.. I bought 111k ess at 80 each rather easily. In fact if you make a post on the RSOF saying buying 111k ess 80 ea, I believe someone will sell you all 111k in one shot. OR The Grand Exchange is a hell of an update, after I bought 100k ess, I put another 80k in the GE for 10k more ess, I started my rcin, and then whenever I purchased all 10k ess I collected it in Edge bank. Pretty conveinient. -------------------------------------- Hmm, as for making money I haven't the slightest idea, I have never been good at answering this question, I always just save everything I see and it just adds up :? . You will need about what 8.88m for 111k ess + another 3.12m for the extra 39k to make your ess total 150k. So 12m exactly for 150k ess. Hmm, just stick it out at irons I suppose. :uhh: Hope I helped

There is a sticky in this forum about taking and uploading screenshots. If you wanted a Signature type picture, that displayed your stats there are a number of other fansites that have them. Go to google and search "runescape stat sig" You should get results for that fairly easily.

Fire Giants and Daggonaths are among your best choices. Fires will get you good exp with the occasional alchable drop. A majority of your money will come from rune scimmys and rune arrows. The blood and chaos runes also add up after awhile. Daggonaths will get you great exp with the occasional herb seeds. All your money will come from herb seeds but you will get some steel arrows too which you should pick up and add to your quiver. They wil add up after awhile. --------------------------------- Another thing you can kill are Kalphite Soldiers (the ones in the 80's) but I am not sure of there drops, I don't know if they are very profitable though.

May I make a Suggestion?!?!?? Since you want runecrafting exp over mage exp (the mage exp is just a bonus) then why not do natures?? Consider this. If you make natures, you have ultimately cut out the cost that it would take to make a profit off high alching. With that extra 260-270 gp off of what you pay for mage exp you can make a near rediculous profit. I shall give you an example: It will take you 107k Nats for 75 rc'in (692k for 91 :-$ .. unimportant right now) Thats only 5k more nats than laws for 75, which is about 1-2 days more work :-w With that 107k nats you can high alch and get 4k alchs away from 96 mage!! 96 mage requires 111k alchs from your current mage level. What should I alch you ask!?!? Here comes the best part. Considering when you are finished crafting all 107k nats, you can buy a number of things to high alch. Such as: Yew longs = 610-630 each --->H.A. Value = 768 each ----->Profit Earned = 14.7m - 16.9m<-(610ea) Green Body = 4.5k-4.6k each --->H.A. Value = 4,680 each ----->Profit Earned = 8.5m - 19.2m<-(4.5kea) Just sold Natures instead of alching Natures = 260-270 each -----> Profit Earned = 27.8m - 28.8m ----------------------------------------------------------- Now I realize there is no way to calc the prices of these items when you finish your goal, however they have been at this price for quite some time now so whose to say it WILL in fact drastically change. My question to you is, why not make some profit off your time?

^^ if that is Zarfots guide, I strongly suggest reading throught the 14 pages of it :shock: If you find that ZMI is not your thing, but you still want fast exp I would suggest multi rune crafting through the abyss. I will explain. -Run to the abyss -Go in, and get to the middle ring -Once in the middle ring run to the closest doorway to you, out of these 3 (death, nature or cosmic) -Craft -Glory to Edge -Repeat ... It fast exp with less profit but the profit is still very nice. ---------------------------------------- If you want just overall profit then Natures throught the abyss is the way to go. It will take you like 1m nats for 91, which translates into 260m, granted the price of nats doesn't drop below 260 ea.