Alternate Prayers

[Frankdragoon]

a sxkilling prayer set would be kewl... like 50% less burning food... etc...

I would strongly support this. a prayer that would make you cut wood faster, or fish faster would be nice, maybe.

 

 

 

Black Prayers

 

these are also some prayers that would be nice(posted on last page, sorry for not quoting)

 

like curses-

 

draining other players energy-or prayer itself

 

 

 

Maybe some prayer that adds a better chance to getting good items.

[JimmyMcNabb]

If we have God Spells for Magic, then we should have God Prayers as well. It could be unlocked through a quest or mini-game just like the God Spells.

 

 

 

 

 

thats actually the best idea ive heard in months

 

 

 

God prayers? Thats what you've got to at the moment.. if they weren't God prayers who would you pray to? :-k

[swordwarior]

I think they will add another page to prayer. I think it will contain summoning. They said they didnt want to make it a skill. The have plenty of spells for mage. Thats just my guess though :wink:

[Saru Inc]

I doubt they will add another prayer book. I mean they have plenty of room to add onto the one we have now... Plus there really isn't a need for it, I can only think of a few more prayers they could add to our existing book

 

 

 

Yea, like a one-hit prayer. You have a one in 10 chance to kill the person you're fighting in one hit, no matter how high they're hp is. But, the prayer drains 10 p points per 3 secs. :-s

 

 

 

But, I don't really see how there would be a need for prayer books.

[Huta]

combine prayers cant be made or firecape is just free....

 

 

 

and i would ruin pking soo much,all possible combo's wouldent work anymore....

 

How would fire cape be free, you would still need high stats and the cost in p pots or super restores would be the same or more (the higher the lvl needed for the prayer the faster the drain, hence a greater cost moneywise :wall: ).

 

Its like saying barrows sets are free just because you can make p pots, craft the runes and have the correct stats, it just takes time and effort for anything.

 

 

 

As for the lower lvls getting the firecape; thats why I said the requirements for the prayers would have to expand outside of prayer, building on the relevant stats (melee-mage protect, requiring high mage+melee stats).

 

 

 

On to stopping pkers, all as the prayers would do would mean the player would have to switch prayers. Again the new prayers would, in theory, cost more to use then the current ones. Pkers seem to hate anything which makes there life any hard which includes the current prayers.

 

 

 

 

 

To your first point; the reason most people don't get their fire cape on their first attempt is because Jad kills them over goofs in prayer switching. Very, very few people die on the fight building up towards Jad, unless they run out of pots or make a very serious mistake.

 

 

 

Multi-prayers would make Jad ridiculously easy. Simply press-'n'-go, turn on the pray and shoot away, no skill required.

 

 

 

To the second point; I won't even try to explain pking to you, as you obviously haven't got a clue about it. What I will say, is if you have to pack all three forms of combat with you, you'll have just about enough inventory to bring 6 sharks along. How do I know this? Staking with all forms. It's too much power.

[superson]

* Combine protection spells: By combiting 2 protection prayers (from magic and melee, melee and ranged or ranged and magic) into one high (80 or even 90+) pkers and stakers would get a reason to train prayer, magic and ranged instead of purely melee. By having 2 protections in one it forces people to take every type of a warrior to their team or carry the items to ko the enemy with a variours styles.

 

 

 

That would make Jad easier then the KBD.

[seanthelawn]

I have mixed feelings about some of these suggestions.

 

 

 

The Black Prayers sound cool. Maybe something that lowers combat stats of your enemy...

 

 

 

God Prayers sound cool too. Like maybe the Guthix one raises defence and attack by 15% each, the Zamorack prayer raises attack by 30%, and the Saradomin prayer raises defence by 30%. Oh and also, you must be wearing the book and/or cape of that God to use their prayer.

 

 

 

The double protections sound hideously overpowered. This is already explained like five times in previous posts, so I won't even get into it.

 

 

 

Well, those are just my opinions.

[Ts_Stormrage]

God-specific prayers would be nice.

 

It could require you to wield an item of that god (be it a Platebody, a stole, symbol, or even book)...

 

 

 

Some ideas off the top of my head (It goes without sayng that you can only use this prayer, much like a protection prayer or smite at a time, and they are lvl 70 to use):

 

 

 

 

 

For Saradomin;

 

Enlightened Aura, You cannot attack or cast spells or take any other action other then walk or run. You have ALL protection Prayers on, and you and everyone around you in the 3x3 square have their HP recharge rate doubled, and Poison cured. The curing of the Poison will drain the Prayer of the one activating Enlightened Aura like the Holy Book from The Great Brain Robbery quest does.

 

 

 

For Zamorak;

 

Sphere of Chaos, All missle and magic and otherwise attacks from over a distance are directed to another random person or NPC found on your minimap. Each attack drains an extra Prayer Point.

 

 

 

For Guthix;

 

Walk of Tranquility, Every person trying to attack you is teleported to a random teleport spot on your spellbook. This does not use runes, and costs 5 Prayer Points for each person teleported away.

 

 

 

 

 

Just some thougths :)

[Latinoking]

a sxkilling prayer set would be kewl... like 50% less burning food... etc...

 

 

 

No offence? But who the heck will pray to a "GOD" to burn less food?

[Sepher]

If we have God Spells for Magic, then we should have God Prayers as well. It could be unlocked through a quest or mini-game just like the God Spells.

 

 

 

 

 

thats actually the best idea ive heard in months

 

 

 

God prayers? Thats what you've got to at the moment.. if they weren't God prayers who would you pray to? :-k

 

 

 

Well, technically right now we only pray to Sara apparently...

 

So why not add Zammy and Guthix prayers?

 

 

 

:P

[rareghoul1]

God-specific prayers would be nice.

 

It could require you to wield an item of that god (be it a Platebody, a stole, symbol, or even book)...

 

 

 

Some ideas off the top of my head (It goes without sayng that you can only use this prayer, much like a protection prayer or smite at a time, and they are lvl 70 to use):

 

 

 

 

 

For Saradomin;

 

Enlightened Aura, You cannot attack or cast spells or take any other action other then walk or run. You have ALL protection Prayers on, and you and everyone around you in the 3x3 square have their HP recharge rate doubled, and Poison cured. The curing of the Poison will drain the Prayer of the one activating Enlightened Aura like the Holy Book from The Great Brain Robbery quest does.

 

 

 

For Zamorak;

 

Sphere of Chaos, All missle and magic and otherwise attacks from over a distance are directed to another random person or NPC found on your minimap. Each attack drains an extra Prayer Point.

 

 

 

For Guthix;

 

Walk of Tranquility, Every person trying to attack you is teleported to a random teleport spot on your spellbook. This does not use runes, and costs 5 Prayer Points for each person teleported away.

 

 

 

 

 

Just some thougths :)

 

 

 

i like all except guthix pray. the zammy pray must have ridiculously high drain rate tho, otherwise it's just like double protection, only worse. guthix prayer hmmm :-k maybe stop hostile monsters from attacking you but heal their hp, in a 5x5 square? i like that idea \

[prayermage_6]

dark and light prayers..?nice

[red_hydra]

We got enough prayers I think.....

 

 

 

Currently our highest prayer requires lvl 52 and I don't think we got any armours that require high pray either. This means prayer has the lowest "highest usable lvl" gab. We got over lvl 90 spells, we got lvl 90 craftable materials, 90 slayable beasts, 71+ huntable monsters and even armours&weapons which require higher level than prayer.

 

 

 

At the moment people aren't really cheered to get higher prayer. If you aren't a high lvl staker, pker or don't want high combat for some reason, you got no reason to take a high prayer lvl.

 

 

 

So far I've personally thought of the following prayers:

 

* Boost the energy recharge. Would help agility training, running around the map for farming purposes and in some cases even pkers.

 

* +20% boost to att, str, def, ranged and magic. Obvious reasons :P

 

* Combine protection spells: By combiting 2 protection prayers (from magic and melee, melee and ranged or ranged and magic) into one high (80 or even 90+) pkers and stakers would get a reason to train prayer, magic and ranged instead of purely melee. By having 2 protections in one it forces people to take every type of a warrior to their team or carry the items to ko the enemy with a variours styles.

 

 

 

KQ can do it why cant we :wink:

[Laikrob]

dont make us all worry about new prayers... think of the posabilitys.

 

 

 

"you have been teleblocked"

 

"you activate noob friendly safe teleport away prayer"

 

:roll:

 

 

 

I would personally appreciate that more than Smite, which is a prayer I never have used (except as a decorative symbol above my head on level-up pictures). Some of the Prayer suggestions are good, or can be with some work, but I also think it's important that they don't make existing items/skills less useful - like we saw in example with Fishing potions when Pies came out.

 

 

 

I would love to see some special Prayers at 60, 70, 80 and 90 Prayer. If they added only 4 Prayers, they would fill out the gap. The challenge is to make them at least halfway logical, not stealing from other skills and to make them useful accordingly to the level required. We all know that 43 Prayer currently gives you maybe the most useful prayer as it is now, so the new prayers would need to be better in some way, and each better than the lower one.

 

 

 

Then again, I am a fan of both Prayer and Herblore, and don't pk, stake or enjoy the wilderness. I would appreciate Prayers like:

 

 

 

Lvl 60 Clue solving prayer - Requires Clue in inventory, Run Energy increased, and Sara brew %'s to def/hp stats.

[Mementh]

 

Well, technically right now we only pray to Sara apparently...

 

So why not add Zammy and Guthix prayers?

 

 

 

:P

 

 

 

nope... we pray to the god of our choice.. so the god prayers would be specific and would be good :)

[Freesia]

* Combine protection spells: By combiting 2 protection prayers (from magic and melee, melee and ranged or ranged and magic) into one high (80 or even 90+) pkers and stakers would get a reason to train prayer, magic and ranged instead of purely melee. By having 2 protections in one it forces people to take every type of a warrior to their team or carry the items to ko the enemy with a variours styles.

 

What I was thinking initially. Maybe to make it less overpowered Jagex could make prayer drain rate for that prayer maybe like as if you have 5 ultimate strengths on at the same time? Among all 3 different combinations, range/mage protection has to be the highest lvl :-w

[jwrm22]

a sxkilling prayer set would be kewl... like 50% less burning food... etc...

 

 

 

No offence? But who the heck will pray to a "GOD" to burn less food?

 

 

 

i could ask the same question...

 

why would you pray for double restore rate of your skills...

 

why would you pray a fake god anyway?

[Yassin765]

We got enough prayers I think.....

 

 

 

Currently our highest prayer requires lvl 52 and I don't think we got any armours that require high pray either. This means prayer has the lowest "highest usable lvl" gab. We got over lvl 90 spells, we got lvl 90 craftable materials, 90 slayable beasts, 71+ huntable monsters and even armours&weapons which require higher level than prayer.

 

 

 

At the moment people aren't really cheered to get higher prayer. If you aren't a high lvl staker, pker or don't want high combat for some reason, you got no reason to take a high prayer lvl.

 

 

 

So far I've personally thought of the following prayers:

 

* Boost the energy recharge. Would help agility training, running around the map for farming purposes and in some cases even pkers.

 

* +20% boost to att, str, def, ranged and magic. Obvious reasons :P

 

* Combine protection spells: By combiting 2 protection prayers (from magic and melee, melee and ranged or ranged and magic) into one high (80 or even 90+) pkers and stakers would get a reason to train prayer, magic and ranged instead of purely melee. By having 2 protections in one it forces people to take every type of a warrior to their team or carry the items to ko the enemy with a variours styles.

 

 

 

Range+Mage prayer=TztokJad being easy! :-(, maybe they could do that if you couldn't use in certain places such as Fight caves.

 

 

 

Anyway, I think that we have enough prayers.

[jimbob9999]

We got enough prayers I think.....

 

 

 

Currently our highest prayer requires lvl 52 and I don't think we got any armours that require high pray either. This means prayer has the lowest "highest usable lvl" gab. We got over lvl 90 spells, we got lvl 90 craftable materials, 90 slayable beasts, 71+ huntable monsters and even armours&weapons which require higher level than prayer.

 

 

 

At the moment people aren't really cheered to get higher prayer. If you aren't a high lvl staker, pker or don't want high combat for some reason, you got no reason to take a high prayer lvl.

 

 

 

So far I've personally thought of the following prayers:

 

* Boost the energy recharge. Would help agility training, running around the map for farming purposes and in some cases even pkers.

 

* +20% boost to att, str, def, ranged and magic. Obvious reasons :P

 

* Combine protection spells: By combiting 2 protection prayers (from magic and melee, melee and ranged or ranged and magic) into one high (80 or even 90+) pkers and stakers would get a reason to train prayer, magic and ranged instead of purely melee. By having 2 protections in one it forces people to take every type of a warrior to their team or carry the items to ko the enemy with a variours styles.

 

 

 

In other words;

 

 

 

Fire capes! Free fire capes! Come and get 'em!

 

 

 

 

 

And I don't even want to think of the problems this would cause pking...

gimme a free cape pl0x?

 

 

 

combine prayers cant be made or firecape is just free....

 

 

 

and i would ruin pking soo much,all possible combo's wouldent work anymore....

 

 

 

How about it only blocks 50% of the damage for monsters and players.

[Jiri.C]

Not sure but i don't think so, since the prayers we got now its already more than good

[pizzalord1]

A new prayerbook would have to have some pretty amazing prayers to warrant swapping out protection prayers...

 

 

 

Nah, I say all we need is more normal prayers, no alternate books kthx.

[Celestrana]

Here's my ideas for God Prayers as alternative prayers:

 

 

 

Saradomin's Might (Lvl-70)

 

- Boost your strength level by 10%

 

- Decrease your attack level by 5%

 

 

 

Zamorak's Fury (Lvl-70)

 

- Boost your attack level by 10%

 

- Decrease your strength level by 5%

 

 

 

Guthix's Recoil (Lvl-70)

 

- 50% of the damage received returns to the attacker (similar to the Ring of Recoil effect). Returned damage is rounded up.

 

 

 

NOTE: If the attacker happens to also have Guthix's Recoil activated, the damage returned to them will NOT be halved and fired back to their target.

 

 

 

The boosts and decrease in skill levels could be percentages but if that's too powerful, I think boost by a fixed level should be fine. You'll also need to wear a Holy Symbol or Unholy Symbol to activate the prayers. Guthix's Recoil works with either Symbol.

[Laikrob]

I still think there could be made more creative prayers than remixes of those we already have.

[pure_fett]

We got enough prayers I think.....

 

 

 

Currently our highest prayer requires lvl 52 and I don't think we got any armours that require high pray either. This means prayer has the lowest "highest usable lvl" gab. We got over lvl 90 spells, we got lvl 90 craftable materials, 90 slayable beasts, 71+ huntable monsters and even armours&weapons which require higher level than prayer.

 

 

 

At the moment people aren't really cheered to get higher prayer. If you aren't a high lvl staker, pker or don't want high combat for some reason, you got no reason to take a high prayer lvl.

 

 

 

So far I've personally thought of the following prayers:

 

* Boost the energy recharge. Would help agility training, running around the map for farming purposes and in some cases even pkers.

 

* +20% boost to att, str, def, ranged and magic. Obvious reasons :P

 

* Combine protection spells: By combiting 2 protection prayers (from magic and melee, melee and ranged or ranged and magic) into one high (80 or even 90+) pkers and stakers would get a reason to train prayer, magic and ranged instead of purely melee. By having 2 protections in one it forces people to take every type of a warrior to their team or carry the items to ko the enemy with a variours styles.

 

 

 

In other words;

 

 

 

Fire capes! Free fire capes! Come and get 'em!

 

 

 

 

 

And I don't even want to think of the problems this would cause pking...

gimme a free cape pl0x?

 

 

 

combine prayers cant be made or firecape is just free....

 

 

 

and i would ruin pking soo much,all possible combo's wouldent work anymore....

 

 

 

or free drag chains? kq anyone?

[Trobigod]

Here's my ideas for God Prayers as alternative prayers:

 

 

 

Saradomin's Might (Lvl-70)

 

- Boost your strength level by 10%

 

- Decrease your attack level by 5%

 

 

 

Zamorak's Fury (Lvl-70)

 

- Boost your attack level by 10%

 

- Decrease your strength level by 5%

 

 

 

Guthix's Recoil (Lvl-70)

 

- 50% of the damage received returns to the attacker (similar to the Ring of Recoil effect). Returned damage is rounded up.

 

 

 

NOTE: If the attacker happens to also have Guthix's Recoil activated, the damage returned to them will NOT be halved and fired back to their target.

 

 

 

The boosts and decrease in skill levels could be percentages but if that's too powerful, I think boost by a fixed level should be fine. You'll also need to wear a Holy Symbol or Unholy Symbol to activate the prayers. Guthix's Recoil works with either Symbol.

 

 

 

I don't think those prayers would be good, first off, the Saradomin's / Zamorak's ones require much higher than the 15% ones we already have, which are better anyway, so they would be pointless after all.

 

 

 

The Guthix prayer would be too powerful, unless it drained your prayer to 0 after the damage return. (or something similar, 50% back from damage you take is too much, 30-30 DDS K.O. anyone?)