I Have Faith.

[Junkieman]

In the past hour, maybe even only half hour, something very peculiar and what I consider extraordinary has happened. I am shocked and touched by it, and very glad to see there is still some respect between players left in runescape.

 

 

 

Let me set the scene...twas a dark and lonesome night! Well no, it was about midnight, just turning 21st july 2007(not a harry potter story). I, Junkieman608, am currently in a competition in my clan called Skill Battle, over the course of a week the entrant who gains the most XP in one skill wins the prize fund, made up of entrance fees. This week, it is cooking, and I have been turning to sharks as my secret weapon. I get home from a night out(alcohol free though) and come on rs, to see how I stand in the competition. There's two days left, so I think 'I should get some sharks so I can take first place with a swift motion'. I am second currently buy 600k xp, but my main opponent can only cook lobsters you see, so for every 4000shark I cook, he must cook 7000lobs to stay level.

 

 

 

So, I make a post on the official forums, as you do, buying raw sharks. There's alot of offers coming in over the private chat, 3 in fact, one guy selling 1k, one guy selling 365, and another selling 500. I speak to the 500 guy first, cos the 1k guy isn't online, then he is, I've made the promise to meet the 1k guy his place and world, but anyone under 1k must come to my place and world. 1k guy came on halfway through my chatting with 500 guy, so I go to meet him in Seers and buy before I lost the chance of 1k raw sharks, and by time I change worlds and start running, 500 guy is on my world(new one, I PMed him before switching thinking he'd take his time) and in Catherby bank, where I agreed to meet. I PM him telling him I have to run to Seers quick, and that I'll brb in catherby.

 

 

 

When I return to catherby, I find 500guy AND 365 guy there, I'm doing quick maths in my head, I'm tired after an evening out. I trade with 500 guy first as I punch the numbers of 365x950 into my calc, I mean, 950x500 is simple maths right? However, I made a fatal mistake. Combine it all with RS's lack of M sign for millions bellow 10, and you can imagine what happened. I wanted the trade done quick, so that I did not keep 365 guy waiting, so I clicked accept after seeing his sharks were raw and of the right amount, and then on the second screen after the same checks too. Of course, I didn't check my OWN side, as I would be confident it was correct. However, 500 guy was taking his time, I assumed he was punching numbers to verify things, I thought it futile to check my own side, I mean, I glanced at it, but didn't think to check it(i'd already accepted anyway), as I offered it with full confidence it was right. 500 guy accepted, and I started the trade with 365guy, suddenly a fear swept over me, a proper fear, one I've rarely felt. I then hurried through the trade with 365 guy, eager to clarify whether I'd made the mistake I thought I had. I hurried, but cautiously, given my mistake was on my mind.

 

 

 

I checked my inv, I checked my bank. I had made the mistake. I had just given 4.5mil for a 450k sale, that's a smooth 4mil loss my friends. I immediately PMed this guy, 500 guy, I said something along the lines of 'Plz' something I despise heavily yet in my frenzied and anxious state time was of the essence to my mind, and it thought of 'Plz'. I told him I'd given him too much, then asked 'Please, give it back'. I waited...

 

 

 

'Hell no!' was the response. 4million down the drain in a flash. I had nothing to say, I was not going to beg and plead, it was a lost case already. I simply messaged him saying something along the lines of 'Well, I hope you feel big about yourself.' and removed him from my list.

 

 

 

I was in some IRC channels for my clan at the time, an older channel and the newer clan channel, one of the people in the older clan channel(i discovered the clan a year ago, through some other gaming forums i post on) is a girl who has played and quit rs a few times. She had a drop party once, I attended and got a d chain, though I didn't know her too well and said if she ever played again she could have it back. She did start again a few months down the line, but my word is my word, and it was no loss to me really, so I gave it back. She quit again recently, though I was inactive at the time. She tried to make me feel better(i'd sworn alot over the two channels), though I insisted I didn't want her money, and I wasn't that cut up about it as it was my own fault. I think I was trying to lie to myself, it's serious money for me, 4million gp. So, she came on, and offered to give me what she had left, like 940k and 2000 nats, to make me feel better. I kept refusing, but she convinced me. So, I had to tele from catherby to lumby, as she's f2p, and hop to an f2p world to get it.

 

 

 

As I was there, on world 29, I got a PM from 500 guy, because of course my chat was still set to 'On' from the shark trades(so anyone can pm me with offers). He was asking if I had 475,000. I asked 475,000 what, and he said 475k. I said 'Yeah.' He said he would trade me 4750k for 475k, I said 'Ok...' because I knew it was gonna be another scam, I'd willing forked over money when he wasn't trying to scam me, he'd refused to give it back, and so he probably thought he could take me for more, or just plain mug me off and rub it in. I asked where he was, and he said catherby still. I wanted to let him scam me, so I could report him and get him for real, so I took out my 5 airs, and 1 law, then hopped back to his world, then tele'd and ran there. I found him, green dot hidden under a white, and he initiated the trade. I offered my 475k, and he offered back...4750k. I was ready with the report button, in case he tried the quick swap on the second screen. To my surprise, he didn't, so I accepted, knowing he was gonna do the old 'decline on the second screen' to rub it in my naive face. However, the window disappeared, I checked my chatbox, it said Accepted Trade. I checked my invent, it had 4750k in it. He said he felt guilty for how he acted, I gave him 50k for his general decency. After this intense 45 minutes, I was amazed, I was relieved, I was quite literally touched, and now;

 

 

 

I Have Faith.

 

 

 

One of my clan members commented earlier in the fiasco that people are too greedy these days, the girl I mentioned told how she'd done the same thing, but the other guy had been decent enough to give it back(which pissed me off at the time, as this guy had not). But now, I have faith in runescapers, that was an easy 4million he could have had, it walked right into his inventory, yet...he gave it back. He did the right thing, and for that, I am very glad, and very happy, and very touched. It partly goes beyond runescape for me, to know if people can do that in an online game...well, it's just good things!

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, I dunno if this last bit will get edited due to policy, but I would like to say my thanks to, and hope that everyone here, can be a little more like the guy who gave me some faith, Flameboy162.

 

 

 

(P.S, I started writing this half hour ago, and as for the stuff that girl gave me, I gave it back seeing as I got back what I'd lost)

[dberg20]

Touching.

 

 

 

I was selling ranarrs before and the guy put up an extra 0, I declined though. :)

[The Observer]

Wow, there are few people like that nowadays. Scammers never show remorse for their actions. You were lucky to be scammed by a nice, caring person.

[jade_slayer6]

Wow, there are few people like that nowadays. Scammers never show remorse for their actions. You were lucky to be scammed by a nice, caring person.

 

 

 

I don't recall reading anything about the other guy scamming him.

[Junkieman]

I would like to point out, he did not scam me, it was my own foolishness that caused such to happen. He in no way attempted to scam me, it was all my own fault.

[Kilo]

Nice to see a story like this posted, especially when quite a few people in these forums think everyone in rs is a 12 year old pc product pure with no intelligience whatsoever : Glad you got your cash back man :thumbsup:

[anonymouse_]

You were very lucky; such people are very hard to come by :

[The Observer]

Well, I mean it's good that you have gotten your stuff back. There really are few people like that...

[Dragonlordjl]

You were lucky... I hope you remained friends with that guy.

[Lady_Shahdie]

After reading that story it gives me faith in RuneScape players as well. I sneered in disgust when I heard that guy wouldn't have the common decency to give back an amount that he certainly had not earned. I'm glad however he realized its not worth the wickedness and did the right thing. But in my opinion even the scammers do feel some hidden guilt in similar ways. No matter how much you all deny it or how cold they appear to feel about their practices...no one can stop the horrible looming feeling of guilt, especially when it comes in ban hammer form :thumbsup:.

 

 

 

As a side note: Interestingly enough I encountered this situation with me being on the opposite side. I was selling 1k coal in the Falador east bank. A level 72 wielding a fire staff was eager to send a trade offer. I priced the coal at 180 each and as I made the offer of the coal notes on the trade screen he offered the 180k. When we were at the final screen and as I pressed the Accept button, for a fleeting moment I realized I only gave him 100 coal notes. He immediately stored in the bank and started retrieving what must have been mith or iron ores and started superheating them. I yelled for him to stop and quickly sent another trade offer. He asked what the extra 900 was for and I explained to him it was a matter of my dull-headedness -.-...he laughed and said its ok.

[PastyGangsta]

You are very lucky... I lost 5m doing something almost exactly like that, and didnt get it back... (Ive made 7m since then though so, Im good :D )

[Italian5kamikaze]

Thank you...

 

 

 

for having one of the most interesting well written posts on these general boards ive seen in quite a while.

[Crazykid1321]

You gained 175,000gp and a new friend. :D

 

This story has restored some of my faith in the Runescape Community

[Magedark]

Yeah. If someone ever did that to me I'd give it back.

[4nr]

Great story, very well written. Nice too see SOME people are still nice in this game.

[ndn3master]

Very touching :o that guy did the righ thing \

[RabidChipmunk]

What's this? Decency? Respect for thy fellow man? I believe that's what it's called, it's been so long since I've seen it. I believed it to be extinct! But here it is! I wish I knew people like that.

[spikegamer]

amazing, simply amazing how in a game that has to update trade systems to reduce scamming, add new randoms to fight autoers and "gold farmers", and add ditches to stop luring there are still people who aren't run by greed and self gain. Maybe there still is hope for a good runescape community to come back.

[Latinoking]

I would have bought a fury 8-)

 

 

 

Very lucky. Can i have some luck? \

[cowmasta13]

You mean, like, there are still nice people outside of Tip.It? Weird....

 

 

 

I did that on a d'hide trade, but I only lost 300k or so, so I wasn't that bummed.

[underu2000]

Similar thing happened to me, on a smaller scale, but the same results. I have faith in folks too, the RS community isn't in total decline.

 

But not too much, keep an eye on your cash... :mrgreen:

[Adam007]

That was pretty inspirational. :)

 

I had an incident like that back when party hats were 4-10mil. The guy didn't give the money back but we'd routinely see each other and have awkward chats but we ended up being friends after awhile. It's great to hear the guy came around.

[whocares]

This actaully happend to me, but the guy I traded offered too much and I wasn't paying attention either so I accpeted. Then he pmed me and told me he put up too much and I looked and saw that he put up 1m more than what it was supposed to be. Not as much as you could of lost, but still alot. Anyways, I gave it back because I feel guilty with that kind of stuff.

[hellbellz]

That's awesome to hear. :D

[Master_Smither]

The sad thing is that we are amazed at the fact that this happened.

 

 

 

We should all give back even if it is 1gp. But sadly more than half of runescape is greedy 12 year old wanna be teenages.

 

 

 

But you got 1 of the few nice guys.

 

 

 

Best of luck in the contes!