axeraider194 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 DISCLAIMER: PLEASE DO NOT MENTION ANY NAMES IN THIS TOPIC, THIS IS NOT TO DISCUSS PLAYER MODS IN PARTICULAR, BUT IN GENERAL. __________________________ Player mods. Is the ability for Jagex to give other players modship in the game justified? Do they do more harm than good? Or are they a fantastic addition to Runescape? Can they be improved? My opinion is split. I've seen many player mods take care of autotypers and unruly players, however, i've also been reported up to 7 black marks, and muted for 3 days because of multiple corrupt players mods over time (as well as player mods who don't know what's going on as they come across it. ie. me and my clanmates hanging out at fishing guild goofing off, as well as a convo that begins as somebody asks what states everybody is from, and it narrows and narrows from there. Turns out a kid at the w9 fishing guild I was in goes to my high school, me and him have been friends since :) .) Also, some of you who hang out in the tipit clan chat may have remembered the day not too long ago a certain p mod (who most likely got their account stolen) started giving 3 day mutes to everybody who spoke in the channel, I was one of those people. Overall, I believe the selection should be based on time played. I'd rather have a grumpy rs vet taking care of reports than a happy new guy. There are so many mods nowadays that don't even know much about the game itself (Yes, even those 120+ p mods). And like the post two posts down, I agree that Jagex is picking quantity over quality. You can barely walk into a bank now without a p mod being there. Perhaps it's better that the crowns are removed, but they still have report priority? Only then will we see who is truly motivated to handle the duty, instead of those who do it for the "fame" and easy merchanting in world 2? Let's hear what you guys think :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salim123 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 yes they help alot and mute the people who need it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Well since they are pikcing quantity over quality now they are making p mods seem bad. Some peopel nvr get reported and are very offensive and break rules yet become p mods due to 0 black marks. Jagex needs to give it to people who might have a few black marks but have reformed...... Or deserve it truely Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camaman Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Honestly, I don't notice them doing anything at all. ~2431~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champion Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 I think they are a fine addition. They do more help than harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 I feel they are a great addition to the game as players themselves play the game more than JAGeX moderators. If they just had alot of JAGeX Moderators, then their budget would be low as they have to pay every single one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBC3 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 ive never met a corrupt player mod in my rs life. 4000000657th to 99 cookin555555406th to 99 flethcin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made0f12une Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Surely there is loads to be improved and there is not nearly enough pmods to deal with these unruly players. Honestly, I wish I saw more pmods in f2p. F2p is a breeding ground for reports. ^^ClicK^^"I backed my car into a cop car the other dayWell he just drove off sometimes life's ok...Alright already we'll all float onAlright don't worry we'll all float on" - Isaac BrockDays Hunting:4 - Kingly Imps Caught:2Money Earned: 4.5-5m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hybrid2hell Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 I think they are a fine addition. They do more help than harm. +1 I engineered this thread with precise variables that I know would cause lul-worthy flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalcyte Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 well... go to http://www.runescape.com Click polls, then poll archives...check the one about player moderators, and you'll see that the vast majority of people are fairly content with player mods. about 2k people (who voted) have encountered rude mods. I'd rule out a good 500 people who were just throwing in incorrect answers to mess things up. So, there's a good answer. I think they're a great addition, and really make the game good, so we can have some better in-game moderation. Click for mah Blog!- I'm not sure why you would though because i never update it Achieved 99 Thieving 3/10/07-992nd to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bac_Talan Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 As a mod myself, my opinion may be biased, but I honestly believe moderators help the community. Sure some are corrupt. I heard that one player got muted by a mod because the mod's friend told the mod to. I would never do that, and anyone who would doesn't deserve to be part of the mod team. Also, if a mod's corrupt, you could always click here.. If a mod is corrupt, report them to Jagex with the above link, and they may well be removed from the team. There are the certain bad mods, but the majority are good ones. (I'm guessing that, overall, I may have gotten several thousand macros banned by submitting "bot families" to Jagex..and also site advertisers, scammers, and other people. Sure, I've made mistakes, but none were blatantly wrong.) Overall, most moderators appear to try hard, and the bad ones should be reported and weeded out of the team. I once shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.Pics or it didn't happen. I hate my generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axeraider194 Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 Well said. It's nice to have the opinion of a Player mod in this topic :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made0f12une Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 I also have a real world example for this. You'll have the good cops in the world that do their part, help out, try to do their job correctly Then you'll have the bad cops that litter, turn their sirens on to get somewhere faster, tail you at 12'oclock at night because they're bored and they're waiting for you to make a mistake so they have something to do. The same thing applies with mods :) ^^ClicK^^"I backed my car into a cop car the other dayWell he just drove off sometimes life's ok...Alright already we'll all float onAlright don't worry we'll all float on" - Isaac BrockDays Hunting:4 - Kingly Imps Caught:2Money Earned: 4.5-5m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuntdawg5 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 I would have to say that I am mostly content with Player Moderators. But a few days ago, my friend was muted for so called "Spamming" (He was trying to buy a Tiara in a near empty bank, so he was repeating himself over and over.) And a P-mod walked up and muted him for two days. So he PMed Jagex and instead of being unmuted (There is no rule against repeating yourself when selling in RS, is there?) he got a blackmark for an offense he did over six months ago.... #-o So at the moment, player moderators are so-so with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leapfrog Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=685211 I'm not going to be a jerk, and be like "OMG use the search button," because I only found it because I knew what I was looking for. It's fairly old, and this topic seems to be much more positive in nature. I point out that link because it shows what a lot of people think about them, and why people hate them. A lot of people think they corrupt too easily, and stuff like that. Personally, I've never met an abusive one, but I'm sure there are some. Just be assured they're gotten rid of. And, like mentioned, you can message Jagex about the bad ones. But yeah, I think they're good. :thumbsup: I guess cause I never saw the need. I also felt that if I moved into the version of the game that was always changing that it would in some way invalidate the work that I had already put into my account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axeraider194 Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 I also have a real world example for this. You'll have the good cops in the world that do their part, help out, try to do their job correctly Then you'll have the bad cops that litter, turn their sirens on to get somewhere faster, tail you at 12'oclock at night because they're bored and they're waiting for you to make a mistake so they have something to do. The same thing applies with mods :) Like the one that gave me a breathelizer test while I was on my bicycle #-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lime_Mercury Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 rude != corrupt Just because a player mod doesn't have the patience to explain to you how to do a quest or won't sell you 20 lobsters doesn't mean they are a bad mod. so there's this thread in p2p general called "the most annoying things ppl do on runescape" i am tempted to post "ya wen im cybering with a girl and they log off for no reason" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkn0wnwarrior Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 The status of Player Moderator and the idea behind it is an excellent one. The method of choosing them isn't the best, nor are all of the moderators that they do pick, but in general it is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlordjl Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 DISCLAIMER: PLEASE DO NOT MENTION ANY NAMES IN THIS TOPIC, THIS IS NOT TO DISCUSS PLAYER MODS IN PARTICULAR, BUT IN GENERAL. __________________________ Player mods. Is the ability for Jagex to give other players modship in the game justified? Do they do more harm than good? Or are they a fantastic addition to Runescape? Can they be improved? My opinion is split. I've seen many player mods take care of autotypers and unruly players, however, i've also been reported up to 7 black marks, and muted for 3 days because of multiple corrupt players mods over time (as well as player mods who don't know what's going on as they come across it. ie. me and my clanmates hanging out at fishing guild goofing off, as well as a convo that begins as somebody asks what states everybody is from, and it narrows and narrows from there. Turns out a kid at the w9 fishing guild I was in goes to my high school, me and him have been friends since :) .) Overall, I believe the selection should be based on time played. I'd rather have a grumpy rs vet taking care of reports than a happy new guy. There are so many mods nowadays that don't even know much about the game itself (Yes, even those 120+ p mods). And like the post two posts down, I agree that Jagex is picking quantity over quality. You can barely walk into a bank now without a p mod being there. Let's hear what you guys think :) Well here's my two cents... I've played since 2001, and up until two months ago, I had NEVER had an in-game black mark. I was not even offered modship. To make matters worse, two months ago, some idiot Player Mod muted me for joking around with a friend. I got .6 black marks out of it. That completely spoiled my opinion on Modship in the game. And I've personally witnessed player mods who threatened to mute someone just because they wouldn't trade something or killed the other person in CW. It's absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star_Fox Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 in some cases they are, in some they arent like this guy over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy87 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 in some cases they are, in some they arent like this guy over here. okay, first of all, edit the name? 2nd of all, big deal? begging so what? doesnt mean they cant report people correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von_Goon Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Yes, they help maintain order in most cases if they are present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star_Fox Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 in some cases they are, in some they arent like this guy over here. edit. okay, first of all, edit the name? 2nd of all, big deal? begging so what? doesnt mean they cant report people correctly. Player mods. Is the ability for Jagex to give other players modship in the game justified? Do they do more harm than good? Or are they a fantastic addition to Runescape? Can they be improved? does reporting people give any relevant examples to any of these listed in the first post, no. and please remove the quote so i can crop. :-w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy87 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 in some cases they are, in some they arent like this guy over here. okay, first of all, edit the name? 2nd of all, big deal? begging so what? doesnt mean they cant report people correctly. Player mods. Is the ability for Jagex to give other players modship in the game justified? Do they do more harm than good? Or are they a fantastic addition to Runescape? Can they be improved? does reporting people give any relevant examples to any of these listed in the first post, no. and please remove the quote so i can crop. :-w again, why would you not remove the pic when u quoted me if you wanted to crop it? does reporting people give any relevant examples to any of these listed in the first post, no if you honestly think that it doesnt then i am truly saddened for you ways of thinking. or perhaps you do not realize a player mods possible influence. also, wtf does begging have to do with hurting the community? its annoying... it dont mean that they are hurting it... now if pmods autoed maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanweb Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 The only changes that needs to be made are their crowns being removed and their messages not overiding the hide public chat option. Apart from that they are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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