Xeones Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Hello, Tip.It!!! First, I'd like to say that I know this has been done before, but I want to add a little more to the argument. So, the question here is: which is better to raise? Attack or Strength? This is for me and for the general community. Attack raises accuracy, or chance of hitting a red number. Strength raises your maximum hit. The way I see it, the Attack stat is like a coin. Whenever the coin lands heads, you hit red. Whenever the coin lands tails, you hit a 0. With every Attack level gained, the tails side of the coin becomes heavier by a bit. This means there will be a higher chance to hit red. Also, the Strength stat is like a prize wheel. To get a metaphoric spin, you must first land heads on the coin. When you spin it, the prize wheel has numbers from 1 to your max hit. Everytime you gain enough Strength levels to increase your max hit, a number is added to the wheel. Now, from this, it seems Attack would be the better choice to raise. But it also depends on the weapon you are wielding. For example, most people would use a whip for most everything. The whip hits very fast. This means that even if your Attack is low and you hit zeros, the whip makes up for that by its speed. Hitting a zero with a whip isn't as bad as hitting a zero with, say, a 2-hander. I'm planning to keep Defense at 75 forever, if you're wondering. I want at least 75 Attack and at least 80 Strength. I've seen duels with someone that has 99 Attack / 80 Strength vs. 80 Attack / 99 Strength and the 99 Attack person wins 7 out of 10 duels, roughly. Now I ask you, which is better? Attack or Strength? I'd like an answer and a reason. Also, if someone can supply me with the thorough and precise mechanics of both stats, that would be great. Thanks in advance for reading this and maybe even replying. Happy RuneScaping!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerdattack16 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 The problem with the Attack vs. Strength debate is that it's about a 50/50 split on which is better. However, it's safe to say that high attack is best for staking, while higher strength is better for PKing. Personally, I value attack over strength. Sig credit goes to ThruItAll. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeones Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 Well, I'll be doing some PKing, some dueling, some questing, and some of everything. This is my main, you know! :mrgreen: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer_Jesse Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 i belive this belongs in general disscussion, as you presenting a topic to discuss rather than asking a direct question. [hide=Siggy credits]The Awesome, Epic, Amazing, S3xah A-10 Sig By Unolexi! I wub u Uno!InsanityV2 Did the Franz Ferdinand Sig.Killerwatt is responsible for the Arctic Monkeys sig.Pat_61 did the B-2 sig and the raptor sig.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordtunkuta Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 id go with atk, cuz think about it. with 99 atk ud be hitting almost every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian5kamikaze Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 I prefer attack over strength. Constant 25s without potting are nice. Im 88 81 70. Quit. PM me if you play The Conduit to exchange friend codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeones Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 So far, I'd like to have 85 Attack, 99 Strength, and 75 Defense. It just seems that 85 Attack would cover the accuracy issue. 99 Strength will let me hit outrageously high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I find both attack and strength not too helpful So I choose Defence :) I'd rather be protected than have 1 def and hit 40's Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot919 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 In my opinion, str>attack. I would rather hit higher then hit lower. For me, I want to hit all or nothing. Hit a 0, or hit a 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albel Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Attack for me...id reather hit all the time with lower hits then least often then with higher hits (61/60/57) [hide=Quotes]Albel/JustinAlbel doesn't say anything anymore, just comes in, leaves an arrow and vanishes into the night :(Probablypractising some euphoniumYou nearly had me fooled, you fooler youEuphonium/10.9/10. To me, always associate Albel with musical stuff in OT.Everyone with a goatee and glasses is Albel now.lmfao albel m8 wat r u doin, hi though. [/hide][hide=Runescape Achievements]99 firemaking(2007), 99 woodcutting(2008), 99 fletching(2009), 99 magic(2010), 99 cooking(2010), 99 farming(2011), 99 construction(2011), 99 runecrafting(2012), 99 Hunter (2014), 99 ranged (2015), 99 HP (2015), 99 Slayer (2015), 99 attack (2015) 99 Defense (2015) 99 Prayer (2015) 99 Summoning (2015) 99 Strength(2015) 99 Herblore (2015) 99 Dungeoneering (2017) 99 Mining (2017) 99 Crafting (2017) 99 Smithing (2017) 99 Thieving (2017) 99 invention (2017) 99 Fishing (2018), 99 Divination (2018), 99 Agility (2018), MAXED (05/17/2018)[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil_Sabre Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 i dont know about attack and strength, but whatever you do do not train defense.......at least not until jagex makes it fair and equal, because right now its total bs..... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbellz Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Attack. The training is easier, and I will hit more often. 80 attack will hit the high 20's which is fine for me. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salim123 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 id rather have attack and str at atleast over 10 under yoru attack level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquashock Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Just max both, or keep them even :? This debate mattered when you NEEDED attack to make contact pking, and with monsters, but now with defenders and whips, you can get MAJOR slash attack, which makes you hit OH SO OFTEN. And the thing about staking, that att>str only applies if you have defense, if not then str>att. Back to the point, back before defenders, it payed to have 3-5 attack levels over your strength, due to the fact the only slash bonus you got was from your weapon, possibly glory, if you gave up the str bonus, and possibly beserker helm, if you gave up the str bonus. (there were also unholy books, but you gave up major def bonus vs the rune kite, but it paid when you had 5 or so attack levels, and used a glory+warrior helm) Defenders add what, +17, +18 slash attack? Whips give 82 natrually. You have 100 slash attack right there. ^^Click For Monster Hunting Blog (180M+ in drops)^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_falcons92 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Well if your staking you want to raise attack so that you hit alot. In Duels theres usually no eating or anything like that. On the other hand, when your pking people tele, run, or something else alot so you need high str so that you can hit a nice KO shot before they get away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tbfgraphx14 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I am 86/76/75 I don't hit for cabbage :roll: Tbfgraphx14Happy to find I'm not the only one who eats glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeones Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 This is my planned setup: Helm of Neitiznot Amulet of Fury Fire Cape Dharok's Platebody Dharok's Platelegs Abbysal Whip Dragonfire Shield Barrows Gloves Dragon Boots Berserker Ring Slash Bonus: 105 Strength Bonus: 134 Thanks, I think I'll go with 75 Attack/80 Strength/75 Defense for now, eventually getting 85 Attack/99 Strength/75 Defense. YAY! Keep the debate going! I say Strength if you have a high Attack bonus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 i'd say attack, what good is the ability to hit 40 if you can't hit for beans AND can only use rune? I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopspe Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I take both... If i have attack, but no strength, its not very good if i just hit a 1 a bunch If i have strength, but no attack, its not very good if i hit a ton of 0's, and then a 40 every once in a while So you need both Mizzou is ballin'!Illini are fallin'!Kansas is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchainmail Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I'd much rather train them all and let Guthix rule. If they are all the same, you have the highest level with the least effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darklord_99 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 i started out with doing it the str way back in rsc was like 60 attack and 75 str when rs2 came out but then i moved to attack and now im 95 attack and 87 str so attack ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
un4given Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I think it's difficult to say, depending on what you're doing; staking, pking etc... Here's a way to look at it... martial artist=att powerlifter=str Or how about this.. Bruce Lee vs. Jay Cutler (Mr. Olympia; not familiar with powerlifters :-k ) Bruce Lee is the one who will be hitting the most while Jay Cutler is the one who will be hitting the hardest....duh =P~ . Though Bruce Lee won't be hitting as hard as Cutler, his speed and accuracy will make up, while Cutler will probly miss alot due to being inaccurate, he will still tear an arm or leg off Bruce Lee, making up for the missed hits. We'll that's just a little piece of my mind... :-k Disregard females. Acquire currency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeones Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 I think it's difficult to say, depending on what you're doing; staking, pking etc... Here's a way to look at it... martial artist=att powerlifter=str Or how about this.. Bruce Lee vs. Jay Cutler (Mr. Olympia; not familiar with powerlifters :-k ) Bruce Lee is the one who will be hitting the most while Jay Cutler is the one who will be hitting the hardest....duh =P~ . Though Bruce Lee won't be hitting as hard as Cutler, his speed and accuracy will make up, while Cutler will probly miss alot due to being inaccurate, he will still tear an arm or leg off Bruce Lee, making up for the missed hits. We'll that's just a little piece of my mind... :-k LMAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake6man Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I would take def anyday. (I know this isnt the debate, but...) I'd much rather be able to withstand high lv monsters than get killed in a few hits. I can always use super pots to up my stregth and atk, and str and atk is useless when you use mage and range. But if I had to pick str or atk, id probably pick atk, because you can weild better wepons. Whats your average lv? viewtopic.php?t=615571&start=0&pos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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