Xeones Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 I would take def anyday. (I know this isnt the debate, but...) I'd much rather be able to withstand high lv monsters than get killed in a few hits. I can always use super pots to up my stregth and atk, and str and atk is useless when you use mage and range. But if I had to pick str or atk, id probably pick atk, because you can weild better wepons. LOL? We're talking about at least 80 in each stat (except Defense, which is incredibly useless ; only got 75 for dragfire shield). The highest attack requirement for anything, I believe, is 70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aneron Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Attack and defense are what you use to outlast your opponent. Strength is what you use to get a k0. When pking, getting a k0 is more important, as people just run when they run out of food. When staking, people can't run, so outlasting is the priority. Personally, I agree with McChainmail. Highest combat + low effort rules. So I keep them all equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest killerbo Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Neither...Or both...Because I say hp over them all HP IS THE MOST IMPORTANT COMBAT SKILL!!!! Without you die very quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Attack and Strength aren't comparable in a case-by-case basis because a LOT of it is luck. I personally prefer attack because it is more flexible. It helps not only during training or other monster combat but especially in PvP. Strength, on the other hand, only helps in training and PKing PvP. Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsanity Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 The smartest players understand that neither Attack nor Strength can be used to their fullest without one another. Train equally and you'll have the best advantage. Take it from someone who knows. |2,300+ Total|138 Combat|12 Lvl 99 Skills|99 Slayer| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 The smartest players understand that neither Attack nor Strength can be used to their fullest without one another. Train equally and you'll have the best advantage. Take it from someone who knows. It depends on every scenario... surely you've not been a armor-off staker, armor-on staker, monster hunter, tank all in one account.... Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brolly04 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I choose strenght 5 lvls over attack, and attack 10 lvls over defence this is a good balance for me :thumbsup: 94 att 99 str 85 def Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulthresher Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I'm 90 72 76 and I love my attack. I can hit often as well as hard(with some bonuses of course) and I can usually Ko a guy with my DDS pretty easy. Strength is useless unless you have some Attack to back it up and the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_death_bombs55 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Attack. 8-) When you mentioned the Dragon Plates I had a sudden vision of a load of gangsters running around in fancy dress yealling "Grim Reaper in da hood!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 str get the dscim use out of the way too have fun with the whiP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwreeTak Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I think that the attack skill is most important, since without it you would never hit anything, even if you had a high strenght level. For me, my max hit isn't that important. The important thing for me is to hit pretty often and that I'm able to get xp in a pretty fast rate when I train the combat skills. And then I don't need to have a high strenght level. But for some people a higher strenght level than attack level is good to have, for example for pkers. So the answer on which of these two skills is best depends totally on who you ask. Add me if you so wish: SwreeTak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star_Fox Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 i have 99 attack and i still hit constant zeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUMINATOR17 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 [hide= Aqua hit the nail right on the head.]Just max both, or keep them even :? This debate mattered when you NEEDED attack to make contact pking, and with monsters, but now with defenders and whips, you can get MAJOR slash attack, which makes you hit OH SO OFTEN. And the thing about staking, that att>str only applies if you have defense, if not then str>att. Back to the point, back before defenders, it payed to have 3-5 attack levels over your strength, due to the fact the only slash bonus you got was from your weapon, possibly glory, if you gave up the str bonus, and possibly beserker helm, if you gave up the str bonus. (there were also unholy books, but you gave up major def bonus vs the rune kite, but it paid when you had 5 or so attack levels, and used a glory+warrior helm) Defenders add what, +17, +18 slash attack? Whips give 82 natrually. You have 100 slash attack right there.[/hide] Also if you factor into what aquashock said the raw power behind such items like salve ammys and black masks, both are items that are quite often used for slayer, which is now one of if not the most common method of training combat....Then it really doesnt much matter which you go with. HOWEVER. Since im sure someone out there wants me to pick one way or another...I will choose strength. Mainly for the reasons that with items such as barrows gloves, defenders, black masks, an ammy, etc etc with super set potions like many many people use for training especially when paired with slaying, the only way I really train. Then your slightly better off getting higher strength first. Due to the fact its much easier to get a higher total weapon attack bonus, then it is to get a higher total strength bonus now, (minus godsword, so dont throw that at me ) CLICK - 770th to 99 SLAYER 2/4/08 - 204th to 99 Summoning 7/1/08 CLICK[Hide=List of Drops That I haven't updated in Years but want to keep in my Sig anyways...]VISAGE DROP - 12/06/073 Duo Sara Hilts, 3 Duo Arma Hilts, 2 Trio Arma Hilts.Dark Bows: (11) Dragon Boots: (50!)Whip Drops: (42!!!) Dragon Drops: (90+!!!!!) 2 D CHAINS!, 3 D Axe, 8 D meds, 7 left halfs, 7 D legs, 6 skirts, 8 Spears[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake6man Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I would take def anyday. (I know this isnt the debate, but...) I'd much rather be able to withstand high lv monsters than get killed in a few hits. I can always use super pots to up my stregth and atk, and str and atk is useless when you use mage and range. But if I had to pick str or atk, id probably pick atk, because you can weild better wepons. LOL? We're talking about at least 80 in each stat (except Defense, which is incredibly useless ; only got 75 for dragfire shield). The highest attack requirement for anything, I believe, is 70. ok... if we're talking about higher lvs, then I'd still pick def. (im 73, 71, 82 btw) If you're training against anything better than an experiment (lv 80 skeletons, for example) its really nice not to have to use guthans so often. even with my def, i still have to use guthans too often imo. you say def is useless? str and atk are useless, as i said, when your ranging and maging. you dont use them at all. and you say you have 75 def? your stats care to differ, unless you have another account besides King Tut 777. the highest atk requirment is 75, which is the godsword. Whats your average lv? viewtopic.php?t=615571&start=0&pos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk8_tolivv Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I prefer to hit higher but I also like to be accurate. I have higher strength than attack right now but I like to only keep them a few lvls apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus_Fighter Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I try keep them around the same level.. ATM i have 80 attack 78 strength Respect- Oy_the_Great, Lode, Bubsa, Weezcake, Thrash111, Gloric, Vmser, Pianofrieak2, Runemetsa Sigs Made By - Pink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 at lower lvls, if pking, its str u need. most low lvl pkers are pures...1 def...hit easily even with 10 attack my pure never misses on pure but u need higher str on them higher lvls u need high in both imo, attack > str at high lvl ps, 99 attack. i hit pretty dam often I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craiglowery Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I think attack is more valuable than strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthu Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Power through controlled. Them all even lets you hit high, lets you hit and lets you to not get hit. First I did strength on my account, had something like 40 60 40, then raised defence: was 90 71 90, now I am at 92 90 94 and fairly happy. 99+ all 23rd March 2012 - 2496 total 13th June 2012.9000+ dragon drops! Including draconic visage, d chains, d spears, d2h, d claws, d meds, d legs, d skirts... d bones, d hides :)?I want jagex to put resource dungeons and dungeoneering skill doors to dungeoneering floors so I can dungeon and get dungeoneering xp while I dg so I don't have to dg to get dg exp, but I can dg while I dg :)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshot007111 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Overall, attack is better from my experience. A while ago i sent a query on how attack, strength and defense work. The mod who answered my query, said that they couldnt fully reveal the formulas involved, but he did say that attack does two things; increases chance to hit red instead of zero, and, increases the chance to hit high. Im 99 attack myself, and i easily defeat ppl my lvl, with a higher strength than attack. This applies mainly to dueling, but not so much to pking, because pking involves mage and range aswell. But strength is alot more useful for no armour duels, where ppl just dds spec. Having 99 attack early is also very useful, because it makes training def and str easier. IMO, the best way to go is high attack lvl, and high strenght bonus. ~Guide to Solo'ing the KBD~ 99 Cooking | 99 Firemaking | 99 Attack | 99 defense | 99 Hitpoints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiids Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 If you don't know which you like more, I'll go with the logical answer: Kepp them even. ^^ Current goals ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taoyection Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Well, def are good for killing monsters PvM, Attack for staking and str for pking. Nuff' said xD I like def :D Kino's Journey 4-ever.....̢̮â¬Å¡Ãâä#̢̮â¬Å¡Ãâä Mastermonkers blog ̢̮â¬Å¡Ãâä#̢̮â¬Å¡Ãâä Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rune256513 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Attack if you want to stake. Strength is your going to kick some pures in the wildy. :-w Pures mostly have no Defense unless its a barrows pure then you have a problem with the Strength option. One by one the penguins steal my sanity!!!???98% Of teenagers surround their minds with rap music, if you're part of the 2% that stayed with rock, put this in your signature, ROCK IS BETTER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeones Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 Yes, I don't have 75 Defense now, I'm aiming for it. So, what do I aim for? 99 atk/99 str? (a bit hard =p) 85 atk/99 str? (pretty reasonable) 99 atk/85 str? (seems a little weird...) Or just stay at 75 atk/80 str forever? (noooes!) Again, I will have 104 Slash bonus and 134 Strength bonus for mostly everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeones Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 Overall, attack is better from my experience. A while ago i sent a query on how attack, strength and defense work. The mod who answered my query, said that they couldnt fully reveal the formulas involved, but he did say that attack does two things; increases chance to hit red instead of zero, and, increases the chance to hit high. Im 99 attack myself, and i easily defeat ppl my lvl, with a higher strength than attack. This applies mainly to dueling, but not so much to pking, because pking involves mage and range aswell. But strength is alot more useful for no armour duels, where ppl just dds spec. Having 99 attack early is also very useful, because it makes training def and str easier. IMO, the best way to go is high attack lvl, and high strenght bonus. OMFG!!! Increases chance to hit high????????????? *gets 99 Attack* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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