meili Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Str! It lets you hit high numbers for ko'ing opponents. Let me give an example, if you had 99 attack but level 1 str you would hit a lot of low level hits like 1s or 2s. 1 1 1 1 1 1 12 2 2 1 1 - etc... what would be the point? On the other hand, with 99 str and 1 att, you can hit high numbers and not get too bored. Unfortunately weapons have a minimum attack level to wield. Ideally for pvp just get the appropriate attack level for whatever weapon you will wield (40 for f2p) then go for str all the way. The Runescape Wilderness - Meili's Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovinthemage1 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 imo attack is best to leave at 60 if your going to be a pure but attack does generally own strength i mean 76 attack 88 strength own 99 strength 8-) If you don't know which you like more, I'll go with the logical answer: Kepp them even. is your pure in mm or am i thinking of a different xi wiids xi or w/e like 60 attack 99 str 99 mage :s Whip pks 21barrows 12 :(dragon drops 1 ;( d legs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightshade53 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 99 Att/85 Str! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Attack, tried and tested. Multiple times beat people with same setup as me, same defence etc, but with high str not high att like me. They just get beat without hitting at all. The thing with str is you don't ALWAYS hit high, you will often hit the same as somebody 20 str levels lower. Constant 15-25>35 every 5 hits. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ycon Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 You need to hit first before you can talk about hitting hard, simple, discussion ends. *lol* No, really The thing is that YOU need str for YOUR OWN fun seeing high numbers. Actually nothing more than 80 str is needed to hit high (~30s), but you can never hit often enough considering that hitting is very much of a gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compens Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Excellent anaology, Xeones!! I chose attack for the reasons you mentioned, and esp since I usually use a whip. I'd rather hit more often that not as often with a "chance" for hitting higher. The thing about strength is that you can still hit in the single digits with 99 strength. Personally, I am holding my defense at 75 ands strength at 80 and going for max attack. I might bump strength up to 85 along the way, though . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin113 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 To be honest, neither can ever win this. If you have 99 attack, 1 strength, you will hit 1s/2s, every hit, and If you have 99 strength 1 attack, you will hit a 30 every 5 minutes. It's like trying to separate yin and yang, you can't, they work best together. Thanks to Quarra for the awesome sig!Xbox360 Gamertag = Tintin113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runescapeloser22 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Neither is "better". They're both extremely essential things to play Runescape. It also hugely depends on what you use combat for. Because say staking, you either need low attack and high strength (whip staking), or high attack and low strength (boxing). If you're just a regular person who doesn't PK, Stake, Ect. then you probably want your attack and strength to be about equal, preferably with attack 2-3 levels higher. So neither is really better, they both have their advantages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatballr Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 i dont know about attack and strength, but whatever you do do not train defense.......at least not until jagex makes it fair and equal, because right now its total bs..... :( I agree with the argument that defence is the unequal stat. I trained 99 defence for a sole reason, to be protected and have to worry about eating less. however, I see myself sometimes getting hit more often or higher than the other people around me (when training at NPC's) Now I realized that on trips with a friend to KBD id be lending him sharks as I have to eat less, but what good is high defence if I want to fight other monsters that do not require a team? Anyways to your question: As already stated each stat has its own "use". Most believe high attack is for staking/NPC's and high str is for KO'ing in wild. For the most part that is correct. In my own personal opinion, now that I have 99 defence. Attack will be the next of my melees to reach 99. Maybe it is because I have a personal bias again strength and I want to prove that high str doesn't make you any better than someone with high defence or high attack. You can just hit harder, you are still the same as me or someone with 99 attack (given you have 99 str) Currently I am 86 A 80 S and 99 D... It really is all a mater of preference, do you like hitting constantly or the occasional 30? The choice is yours. Apparently, my signature was to big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killmenub Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 My opinion is, Medimum strength high attack is the best. For example i'd rather have 90 att 70 strength then 70 attack and 90 strength, why you ask? Well for PVP reason's i'd rather be able to ko my opponent as im hitting them often, then get a few luckey high hits now and then. IGN: HesFearless. -Jamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon_lord Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I believe that both stats are important. ~Balance Is Power~ Pretty much what Dragon said.Thread terminated.I guess that means I'm the thread Terminator? No Tip.Iters were harmed in the making of this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffoo Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I believe that both stats are important. ~Balance Is Power~ That's right! I'd like to add something slightly different into the discussion: What will help train faster? Say you wanted to get any melee stat to 99 (attack for this arguement's sake), what is the best way to get there? For me (currently going for 70/70/70, I'd expect it would be quicker to get all 80s then maybe 92 attack & strength (or at least the mimimal logical str level to reach a logical max hit, no point being 1 str level short of a new max hit), then go for 99 attack. That way, you're trained up the 'easy' levels to provide for a good monster throughput (hit them often and hard). You'll be able to knock through monsters pretty quick, and hopefully save a lot of food, therefore time visiting banks to get more, therefore being able to kill more. It'll take a whole lot less time to get 99 attack with 92 strength as opposed to 70 strength. Ultimately, as many have said previously, it really depends on what you want to achieve. Each of Attack, Strength and Defence have their own benefit in different scenarios, but my personal opinion is that balanced stats will more often win against unbalanced (except where huge level differences exist between players of course ... a 20/99/20 should almost always beat a 40/40/40) WARNING: Prone to ramble ... but you probably already know that!1% F2P : 99% RL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanotex Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Strength. Definatly. Always been one of my favourite skills. ooh eeh ooh ahah, ting tang wallawallabingbang m8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinalChaotic Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 you could try balancing between the 2 Fight Club, Invisible Monsters, Choke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugafan_2009 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I level attack, I level str, I level attack, I level str, and so on. They both own. Quit RS, combat 104, total 1651 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper88888 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I couldn't care less about strength. I like higher attack and defence, so I can pretty much tank in my torags and get in more hits. Or it might just be that I'm too lazy to train str on controlled... Basically, I keep my defence and attack higher than my other stats, but I make sure to keep my strength only 1-3 levels below those. I just don't have 80 str, 75 attack, and 60 defence like so many people(pure and non-pure) out there. For reference; Attack: 78, Defence: 77, Strength:76. There is no meaning or truth in life but that which we create for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquashock Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Some people dont understand, with 99 attack, you dont hit EVERY hit. Ive had 99 attack for months now, right behind 99 str, and I can tell you, i hit on monsters around 60-75% of the time. I still hit alot of 0s on even low level monsters. Even with 99 att and str, i dont hit 30s every hit, Im just prone to hit more of them. My advice would be to keep them even, but if not, keep attack one level over your str, with the slash bonus of defenders, and a whip, you'll see yourself hitting quite a bit. ^^Click For Monster Hunting Blog (180M+ in drops)^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeones Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 Some people dont understand, with 99 attack, you dont hit EVERY hit. Ive had 99 attack for months now, right behind 99 str, and I can tell you, i hit on monsters around 60-75% of the time. I still hit alot of 0s on even low level monsters. Even with 99 att and str, i dont hit 30s every hit, Im just prone to hit more of them. My advice would be to keep them even, but if not, keep attack one level over your str, with the slash bonus of defenders, and a whip, you'll see yourself hitting quite a bit. Wow, that's really, really weird. 60-75% of the time on monsters? If that was on other players, that would be good, but monsters? Even low level ones? WTF?! I was thinking this: I've always wanted to hit high and fast with a whip. Therefore, at 90 Strength, I can hit 30s with a whip. With 99 Attack, I should be able to hit constant 30s. So my stats would be: 99 Attack 90 Strength 75 Defense 95 Hitpoints 52 Prayer 80 Ranged 94 Magic 110 Combat This seems like the perfect setup to me, but Aquashock just scared me by saying how little he hits on monsters with 99 Attack!!! Were you talking about Steel Dragons or something??? Or is it because you have the max stat, Jagex makes it suck for some reason? lol? Like 98 Attack is better than 99 Attack or something just like those superstitious 61 Attack beats 60 Attack for DDS pures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymouse_ Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 It's best to keep them even. I'm 99 99 99 99 and that works fine for me. However, I think it's nice to have high str since you will see some high hits, instead of the same low ones. Wow, that's really, really weird. 60-75% of the time on monsters? If that was on other players, that would be good, but monsters? Even low level ones? WTF?! I was thinking this: I've always wanted to hit high and fast with a whip. Therefore, at 90 Strength, I can hit 30s with a whip. With 99 Attack, I should be able to hit constant 30s. So my stats would be: 99 Attack 90 Strength 75 Defense 95 Hitpoints 52 Prayer 80 Ranged 94 Magic 110 Combat This seems like the perfect setup to me, but Aquashock just scared me by saying how little he hits on monsters with 99 Attack!!! Were you talking about Steel Dragons or something??? Or is it because you have the max stat, Jagex makes it suck for some reason? lol? Like 98 Attack is better than 99 Attack or something just like those superstitious 61 Attack beats 60 Attack for DDS pures...You will not hit constant 30s with 99 att unless you use a super set and piety or something. You will hit a lot of 20s and 30s, but you will also see some 0s. It also depends on your setup. I'd say I hit about 80% of the time on monsters with low def such as trolls. On monsters such as steel dragons, I hit about 30-40% of the time with super att and str and a slayer mask. 99 att is really not as great as people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeones Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 "99 att is really not as great as people think." "99 att is really not as great as people think." "99 att is really not as great as people think." "99 att is really not as great as people think." "99 att is really not as great as people think." AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakdragon39 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Personally, I like Attack best, then Defence, and Strength is last :P. I raise them in that order, usually in increments of 5 levels :P. Attack seems most useful to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeones Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 OK, here's the deal. I can either have 90 Attack/99 Strength hitting 31s at 90 Attack accuracy or 99 Attack/90 Strength hitting 28s at 99 Attack accuracy. I want my combat to stay at 110, so don't suggest maxing both. I like the Attack cape's color better, but the Strength cape's emote better. I personally would choose the first choice, especially because lots of people who actually have 99 Attack say it isn't that great. What do you think? I want to wrap the whole personal thing up and keep the thread alive as to the general community. On a side note, how long does the +1 to the stat of skillcape thing last? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Xeones do you have to have every other post yours? Imo, Look at the charecter mrmmyk's acount. 99 att 70 str. i've seen him totally own other people the same combat as him, me for one. with new items, prayers etc, str the skill is becoming redundant. I'm 82 str, with the best equpiptment,(according to the calc) i could hit 45 on slayer. ok i don't have the best gear but i've experienced myself hittin 30+, with that why would i need higher str? Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ortiz9471 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Defence. The part that you miss is the defence. The duelers who are 90 att 70 str and owning people aren't 1 defence. They are 90 defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildxYak Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 I like def the best as I don't like to get hit :P But as it's just atk and str, personally atk, I prefer to hit average alot than miss more often and get a few decent hits. A I use only my main I keep them at similar levels in hope to balance the hitting often/hard debate to the side :P 99: Agility 28/12/14|Thieving 20/03/15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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