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[muggiwhplar]

Non claws/ruins drops don't pay supplies

 

 

I disagree-- ranarr seeds, cut diamonds, rune drops, BLUE CHARMS... I still find TDs to be much better money.

Maz just showed how bandos made 100m more in the same time amount... how is tds better?

 

I GOT BLUES IT MAKES UP FOR 100M

 

... Numbers make TD's better. Claws > Bandos Hilt. Average drop rate for claws is 1/250 (roughly), and drops in bandos come about every 1/250 kills as well, but they're only like 20M each. TD's die faster, easier to kill, and give [cabbage] loads of blue charms. Therefore, TD's are better. I don't care if someone get 3 hilts in a day and made 100M.

 

um.. bandos drops are 1/83, 1/110 not including boots

 

 

Hilts are about 1 in 600, others about 1 in 150... you can't "combine" the drop rates to say that the rates are 1/83.

[Robert_R]

I was testing how many iron dragons I could kill per hour with dharok to see if they were better then killing black dragons and got this:

80m total now only like 15m to go.

Forgot to take pic on ground.

[Shelby_Polo]

How to crash a corp mass

 

 

OMFG, LMFAOOOOOO. Win right there.

Oh my... is that even real?!

[Mazhar]

Non claws/ruins drops don't pay supplies

 

 

I disagree-- ranarr seeds, cut diamonds, rune drops, BLUE CHARMS... I still find TDs to be much better money.

Maz just showed how bandos made 100m more in the same time amount... how is tds better?

 

I GOT BLUES IT MAKES UP FOR 100M

 

... Numbers make TD's better. Claws > Bandos Hilt. Average drop rate for claws is 1/250 (roughly), and drops in bandos come about every 1/250 kills as well, but they're only like 20M each. TD's die faster, easier to kill, and give [cabbage] loads of blue charms. Therefore, TD's are better. I don't care if someone get 3 hilts in a day and made 100M.

 

um.. bandos drops are 1/83, 1/110 not including boots

 

 

Hilts are about 1 in 600, others about 1 in 150... you can't "combine" the drop rates to say that the rates are 1/83.

They are not 1/150 for items, they're 1/300, considering there are 3 items there is a 1/100 chance for a bandos item that is an armour, also hilts are 1/500, so in the case where you did 500 kills there would be 1 hilt and 5 armour pieces for a total of 6 drops in 500 kills for a 1/83 total rate

 

also I was still lenient underestimating bandos' dry kill profit, There is no common drop for bandos that is under 18k alone without the bones,

coins are 1/4 for 20k, meeting costs,

1/13 for 19k rune longs for 1k loss

1/13 rune plate 50k profit

116 super restores, 37k profit

1/17 nature rune, 3k loss

1/17 coal, 13k profit

1/17 rune 2h, 37k profit

1/17 snap seed, 65k profit

1/18 magic log, 8k profit

1/25 rune pick, 1k loss

1/25 adddy ore, 1k profit

I'm pretty sure most of those beat TD's average dry profit even if there is any

 

I've gotten 15 d claws and 2 bandos items over 2m yet still think Bandos is better money, so there is no bias at all for me

edit: yes leonardo, I was there but forgot to take a pic of everyone potting

[Dragonlordjl]

Non claws/ruins drops don't pay supplies

 

 

I disagree-- ranarr seeds, cut diamonds, rune drops, BLUE CHARMS... I still find TDs to be much better money.

And TDs are a lot more fun. I've been doing TDs with Karma lately just because they're fun. Yeah, I need the cash, but grinding any boss for cash quickly becomes tedious. Therefore, I just do TDs for fun and if we get any drops, cool. If not, oh well.

[muggiwhplar]

 

FINALLY-- probably not gonna play that minigame ever again lol. just gonna stick w/ the diamond (i) ring for now, since it's basically all the frem rings (minus berserker) combined into one... with an additional +5 stab att.

[1230abcz]

[hide]

Non claws/ruins drops don't pay supplies

 

 

I disagree-- ranarr seeds, cut diamonds, rune drops, BLUE CHARMS... I still find TDs to be much better money.

Maz just showed how bandos made 100m more in the same time amount... how is tds better?

 

I GOT BLUES IT MAKES UP FOR 100M

 

... Numbers make TD's better. Claws > Bandos Hilt. Average drop rate for claws is 1/250 (roughly), and drops in bandos come about every 1/250 kills as well, but they're only like 20M each. TD's die faster, easier to kill, and give [cabbage] loads of blue charms. Therefore, TD's are better. I don't care if someone get 3 hilts in a day and made 100M.

 

um.. bandos drops are 1/83, 1/110 not including boots

 

 

Hilts are about 1 in 600, others about 1 in 150... you can't "combine" the drop rates to say that the rates are 1/83.

They are not 1/150 for items, they're 1/300, considering there are 3 items there is a 1/100 chance for a bandos item that is an armour, also hilts are 1/500, so in the case where you did 500 kills there would be 1 hilt and 5 armour pieces for a total of 6 drops in 500 kills for a 1/83 total rate

 

also I was still lenient underestimating bandos' dry kill profit, There is no common drop for bandos that is under 18k alone without the bones,

coins are 1/4 for 20k, meeting costs,

1/13 for 19k rune longs for 1k loss

1/13 rune plate 50k profit

116 super restores, 37k profit

1/17 nature rune, 3k loss

1/17 coal, 13k profit

1/17 rune 2h, 37k profit

1/17 snap seed, 65k profit

1/18 magic log, 8k profit

1/25 rune pick, 1k loss

1/25 adddy ore, 1k profit

I'm pretty sure most of those beat TD's average dry profit even if there is any

 

I've gotten 15 d claws and 2 bandos items over 2m yet still think Bandos is better money, so there is no bias at all for me

edit: yes leonardo, I was there but forgot to take a pic of everyone potting

[/hide]

 

That's not how it works, btw. Not counting boots (I rage quit whenever I see those...), the average rate is (1/300 + 1/300 + 1/500) = .008667. That's a .87% chance of getting a drop from bandos (Chest, Hilt, or Tassys). In 500 kills, you have a 16.7% chance of getting 5 items. Chest, Tassys, and Hilt are priced about the same. Normal drops, however, make Bandos a bit better than TD's, but not by much. TD's are 4M/hour+ for me. I can't even pull that off with duo ffa bandos, and I get most the drops with my friend, but I don't have OL's, either.

[Komatose]

I'm sorry but really JaGEx?

 

[Ezkaton]

How to crash a corp mass

 

 

OMFG, LMFAOOOOOO. Win right there.

Oh my... is that even real?!

:blink: how the hell do you even do that?! :blink:

[Muhahahahaha]

Who said the demo was boring >_>

[Maxingmck]

How to crash a corp mass

 

 

OMFG, LMFAOOOOOO. Win right there.

Oh my... is that even real?!

:blink: how the hell do you even do that?! :blink:

Overloads

 

And what sykotic??

[1230abcz]

I'm sorry but really JaGEx?

 

 

 

 

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!@#!#!@#!@ If only there was another tree on the far side, lol. Someone paint job it nao!@#!@#

[Patr1ck]

"Tif's newest zerker prodigy"? EXCUSE ME????

 

PurePure, has both of you beat, epicly. :shame:

[Ellac]

"Tif's newest zerker prodigy"? EXCUSE ME????

 

PurePure, has both of you beat, epicly. :shame:

He's 82ish def now.

EDIT: He's 84. :thumbup:

[Maxingmck]

"Tif's newest zerker prodigy"? EXCUSE ME????

 

PurePure, has both of you beat, epicly. :shame:

He's 82ish def now.

Yh he was a pur ebut decided to be pro

[Mazhar]

[hide]

Non claws/ruins drops don't pay supplies

 

 

I disagree-- ranarr seeds, cut diamonds, rune drops, BLUE CHARMS... I still find TDs to be much better money.

Maz just showed how bandos made 100m more in the same time amount... how is tds better?

 

I GOT BLUES IT MAKES UP FOR 100M

 

... Numbers make TD's better. Claws > Bandos Hilt. Average drop rate for claws is 1/250 (roughly), and drops in bandos come about every 1/250 kills as well, but they're only like 20M each. TD's die faster, easier to kill, and give [cabbage] loads of blue charms. Therefore, TD's are better. I don't care if someone get 3 hilts in a day and made 100M.

 

um.. bandos drops are 1/83, 1/110 not including boots

 

 

Hilts are about 1 in 600, others about 1 in 150... you can't "combine" the drop rates to say that the rates are 1/83.

They are not 1/150 for items, they're 1/300, considering there are 3 items there is a 1/100 chance for a bandos item that is an armour, also hilts are 1/500, so in the case where you did 500 kills there would be 1 hilt and 5 armour pieces for a total of 6 drops in 500 kills for a 1/83 total rate

 

also I was still lenient underestimating bandos' dry kill profit, There is no common drop for bandos that is under 18k alone without the bones,

coins are 1/4 for 20k, meeting costs,

1/13 for 19k rune longs for 1k loss

1/13 rune plate 50k profit

116 super restores, 37k profit

1/17 nature rune, 3k loss

1/17 coal, 13k profit

1/17 rune 2h, 37k profit

1/17 snap seed, 65k profit

1/18 magic log, 8k profit

1/25 rune pick, 1k loss

1/25 adddy ore, 1k profit

I'm pretty sure most of those beat TD's average dry profit even if there is any

 

I've gotten 15 d claws and 2 bandos items over 2m yet still think Bandos is better money, so there is no bias at all for me

edit: yes leonardo, I was there but forgot to take a pic of everyone potting

[/hide]

 

That's not how it works, btw. Not counting boots (I rage quit whenever I see those...), the average rate is (1/300 + 1/300 + 1/500) = .008667. That's a .87% chance of getting a drop from bandos (Chest, Hilt, or Tassys). In 500 kills, you have a 16.7% chance of getting 5 items. Chest, Tassys, and Hilt are priced about the same. Normal drops, however, make Bandos a bit better than TD's, but not by much. TD's are 4M/hour+ for me. I can't even pull that off with duo ffa bandos, and I get most the drops with my friend, but I don't have OL's, either.

as you said there is a .87% cahnce for a non boots bandos drop so thats

(18:08:39) <@mazhar> !calc 500x.0087

(18:08:40) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 500x.0087 = 4.35 (in 500 kills)

(18:09:23) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 4.35x24m = 104,400,000 (104.40m)

 

while at tds there is a .4% chance of claws, and in 625 kills you will get 2.5 claws (hypothetically)

(18:11:59) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 34.5mx2.5 = 86,250,000 (86.25m)

(18:13:47) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 1.25x4m = 5,000,000 (5m)

 

So you don't even need bone drops to get better money at bandos

 

duo ffa bandos isn't supposed to be better money

[ghjkl]

Bandos is much slower.

[Patr1ck]

"Tif's newest zerker prodigy"? EXCUSE ME????

 

PurePure, has both of you beat, epicly. :shame:

He's 82ish def now.

EDIT: He's 84. :thumbup:

 

[bleep]ing hell, he actually went through with it? Depressing tbh.

[Mazhar]

Bandos is much slower.

no it is not

hey cool I can say stuff w/o any facts too :thumbup:

[1230abcz]

[hide]

Non claws/ruins drops don't pay supplies

 

 

I disagree-- ranarr seeds, cut diamonds, rune drops, BLUE CHARMS... I still find TDs to be much better money.

Maz just showed how bandos made 100m more in the same time amount... how is tds better?

 

I GOT BLUES IT MAKES UP FOR 100M

 

... Numbers make TD's better. Claws > Bandos Hilt. Average drop rate for claws is 1/250 (roughly), and drops in bandos come about every 1/250 kills as well, but they're only like 20M each. TD's die faster, easier to kill, and give [cabbage] loads of blue charms. Therefore, TD's are better. I don't care if someone get 3 hilts in a day and made 100M.

 

um.. bandos drops are 1/83, 1/110 not including boots

 

 

Hilts are about 1 in 600, others about 1 in 150... you can't "combine" the drop rates to say that the rates are 1/83.

They are not 1/150 for items, they're 1/300, considering there are 3 items there is a 1/100 chance for a bandos item that is an armour, also hilts are 1/500, so in the case where you did 500 kills there would be 1 hilt and 5 armour pieces for a total of 6 drops in 500 kills for a 1/83 total rate

 

also I was still lenient underestimating bandos' dry kill profit, There is no common drop for bandos that is under 18k alone without the bones,

coins are 1/4 for 20k, meeting costs,

1/13 for 19k rune longs for 1k loss

1/13 rune plate 50k profit

116 super restores, 37k profit

1/17 nature rune, 3k loss

1/17 coal, 13k profit

1/17 rune 2h, 37k profit

1/17 snap seed, 65k profit

1/18 magic log, 8k profit

1/25 rune pick, 1k loss

1/25 adddy ore, 1k profit

I'm pretty sure most of those beat TD's average dry profit even if there is any

 

I've gotten 15 d claws and 2 bandos items over 2m yet still think Bandos is better money, so there is no bias at all for me

edit: yes leonardo, I was there but forgot to take a pic of everyone potting

[/hide]

 

That's not how it works, btw. Not counting boots (I rage quit whenever I see those...), the average rate is (1/300 + 1/300 + 1/500) = .008667. That's a .87% chance of getting a drop from bandos (Chest, Hilt, or Tassys). In 500 kills, you have a 16.7% chance of getting 5 items. Chest, Tassys, and Hilt are priced about the same. Normal drops, however, make Bandos a bit better than TD's, but not by much. TD's are 4M/hour+ for me. I can't even pull that off with duo ffa bandos, and I get most the drops with my friend, but I don't have OL's, either.

as you said there is a .87% cahnce for a non boots bandos drop so thats

(18:08:39) <@mazhar> !calc 500x.0087

(18:08:40) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 500x.0087 = 4.35 (in 500 kills)

(18:09:23) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 4.35x24m = 104,400,000 (104.40m)

 

while at tds there is a .4% chance of claws, and in 625 kills you will get 2.5 claws (hypothetically)

(18:11:59) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 34.5mx2.5 = 86,250,000 (86.25m)

(18:13:47) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 1.25x4m = 5,000,000 (5m)

 

So you don't even need bone drops to get better money at bandos

 

duo ffa bandos isn't supposed to be better money

 

 

 

I don't want to continue this, but killing Graador is a lot slower, and less kills/trip than TD's (considering time it takes to restock TD's, there's technically infinite kills/trip). I've never tried solo Graador with OL's + brews, so I wouldn't know about that. I call kill way more than 625 TD's in the time it takes someone to kill 500 Graador's. But then again, there's also minions that have a slight chance to drop at least one item in 1500 kills.

 

... We should have a contest, lol.

[ghjkl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f5H-QYQKUs

Don't think you can kill over 40 bandoses an hour.

Btw how do you know what loot you get from bandos if you bank all of them? Do you record them down somewhere?

[Mazhar]

[hide]

Non claws/ruins drops don't pay supplies

 

 

I disagree-- ranarr seeds, cut diamonds, rune drops, BLUE CHARMS... I still find TDs to be much better money.

Maz just showed how bandos made 100m more in the same time amount... how is tds better?

 

I GOT BLUES IT MAKES UP FOR 100M

 

... Numbers make TD's better. Claws > Bandos Hilt. Average drop rate for claws is 1/250 (roughly), and drops in bandos come about every 1/250 kills as well, but they're only like 20M each. TD's die faster, easier to kill, and give [cabbage] loads of blue charms. Therefore, TD's are better. I don't care if someone get 3 hilts in a day and made 100M.

 

um.. bandos drops are 1/83, 1/110 not including boots

 

 

Hilts are about 1 in 600, others about 1 in 150... you can't "combine" the drop rates to say that the rates are 1/83.

They are not 1/150 for items, they're 1/300, considering there are 3 items there is a 1/100 chance for a bandos item that is an armour, also hilts are 1/500, so in the case where you did 500 kills there would be 1 hilt and 5 armour pieces for a total of 6 drops in 500 kills for a 1/83 total rate

 

also I was still lenient underestimating bandos' dry kill profit, There is no common drop for bandos that is under 18k alone without the bones,

coins are 1/4 for 20k, meeting costs,

1/13 for 19k rune longs for 1k loss

1/13 rune plate 50k profit

116 super restores, 37k profit

1/17 nature rune, 3k loss

1/17 coal, 13k profit

1/17 rune 2h, 37k profit

1/17 snap seed, 65k profit

1/18 magic log, 8k profit

1/25 rune pick, 1k loss

1/25 adddy ore, 1k profit

I'm pretty sure most of those beat TD's average dry profit even if there is any

 

I've gotten 15 d claws and 2 bandos items over 2m yet still think Bandos is better money, so there is no bias at all for me

edit: yes leonardo, I was there but forgot to take a pic of everyone potting

[/hide]

 

That's not how it works, btw. Not counting boots (I rage quit whenever I see those...), the average rate is (1/300 + 1/300 + 1/500) = .008667. That's a .87% chance of getting a drop from bandos (Chest, Hilt, or Tassys). In 500 kills, you have a 16.7% chance of getting 5 items. Chest, Tassys, and Hilt are priced about the same. Normal drops, however, make Bandos a bit better than TD's, but not by much. TD's are 4M/hour+ for me. I can't even pull that off with duo ffa bandos, and I get most the drops with my friend, but I don't have OL's, either.

as you said there is a .87% cahnce for a non boots bandos drop so thats

(18:08:39) <@mazhar> !calc 500x.0087

(18:08:40) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 500x.0087 = 4.35 (in 500 kills)

(18:09:23) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 4.35x24m = 104,400,000 (104.40m)

 

while at tds there is a .4% chance of claws, and in 625 kills you will get 2.5 claws (hypothetically)

(18:11:59) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 34.5mx2.5 = 86,250,000 (86.25m)

(18:13:47) -[iN]RuneScript- *** [ CALC ]: 1.25x4m = 5,000,000 (5m)

 

So you don't even need bone drops to get better money at bandos

 

duo ffa bandos isn't supposed to be better money

 

 

 

I don't want to continue this, but killing Graador is a lot slower, and less kills/trip than TD's (considering time it takes to restock TD's, there's technically infinite kills/trip). I've never tried solo Graador with OL's + brews, so I wouldn't know about that. I call kill way more than 625 TD's in the time it takes someone to kill 500 Graador's. But then again, there's also minions that have a slight chance to drop at least one item in 1500 kills.

 

... We should have a contest, lol.

2 bandos kills an overload, 2 mins 30 seconds a kill (1 min 30 seconds on boss and 1 min on minis + waiting for spawn), 20 kills takes 50 minutes, 10 minutes for rebanking (more than needed)

 

@squareroot2: he starts a kill fully spawned at 6:00, it dies at 7:18, it respawns and is lured at 8:10, the kill took 2 mins and 10 seconds in total, 3600 seconds in an hour, 130 second kill, 27.7 kills an hour, idk where you pulled 40 from, and yes I record them

[Sevestia]

 

Kill #1020. Good start to this 1000, lol.

Edit: Bad cropping ftl. -.-

[Patr1ck]

 

Kill #1020. Good start to this 1000, lol.

Edit: Bad cropping ftl. -.-

 

Should use void

[Dragonlordjl]

 

Kill #1020. Good start to this 1000, lol.

Edit: Bad cropping ftl. -.-

 

Should use void

Agreed. Not only does it provide great offense, but it provides decent magic defense (a few points less than full black d hide). Ranged defense doesn't make much different at TDs, so it really doesn't matter that Void has low defense. In fact, I suspect their ranged attacks actually ignore defense. They always seem to hit about the same on me, whether I am in Bandos or Void.