Have you heard the story of a little girl dying because her brothers were playing Power Rangers with her?

 

 

 

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No I do not think a child should be exposed to violence or sex education so early.

 

 

 

For one, puberty doesn't start till around 13, so it would be pointless to teach him or her beforehand.

 

 

 

Also, this thread has a huge flaw in. It makes the mistake that Knowledge grants a child maturity and the ability to handle such responsibility.

 

 

 

The opposite is quite true, people learn from doing stupid stuff and screwing up and then say "dam, i'm not doing that again!". I would find it hard to believe that once you started school, you got filled with so much knowledge that your behavior changed and you never did anything stupid?

 

 

 

I bet you can teach that same child about guns, but then would you hand them a loaded gun?

 

So why do you expect to teach them all about sex, but then hand them a condom?

 

 

 

Besides, its best to wait for marriage anyway. However everyone thinks its okay to sleep around with multiply partners. If I met a girl who says she loves me, but has had multiple partners, I would give it considerate thought. All those other guys she had been with was probably told that she loves them too.

 

 

 

You can't act on your feelings because feelings change.

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You're comparing a gun with a condom :-\

 

 

 

Puberty doesn't have an exact day. It's not like the moment they turn 13, they start puberty. When I was 13 (grade 8 iirc, there were already developed girls couple years younger).

 

 

 

Guess how old the youngest mother is? Did you guess 8? Wrong, it's 5. http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/medina.asp

 

 

 

The thing is, what you're advising to do is to avoid the whole thing altogether. But guess what, outside the walls of the parents, at the mall, on the Internet, movies, television, you can't avoid exposing a child to sex and violence. It's human nature.

 

 

 

Rather than making a child ignorant, why not educate instead? Education might not equal responsibility, but it has more chances of avoiding unnecessary mistakes than ignorance.

The girl shouldn't do it behind her parents' back, but I support her freedom of choice to do so. Especially when it comes to taking her across state lines. I dislike federalism.

 

 

 

So you'd have nothing against parental notification? :roll:

 

 

 

If she doesn't want her parents to know, then they shouldn't be contacted. Again: her choice...even if I disagree with it.

 

 

 

Not at 12 years old it's not her choice. Once she's 18 it is. Just like it's not her choice to go to school. If she need parental permission for a field trip to a museum shouldn't she need it for a medical procedure that is potentially dangerous?

Look, ultimately, I do not condone her not telling her parents (ultimately). After discussing this, however, I looked into the State laws that make it illegal to not contact your parents, and there are clauses in which the child could appeal this, and get the abortion regardless of what their parents say.

 

 

 

My final position is that parental notification/consent laws are fine as long as there's a clause or alternative LEGAL avenue where the young woman can seek to obtain a legal abortion if: a) the parents refuse to give consent, B) the parents are not mentally capable of being entrusted with the decision. Point b is rather extreme and those parents shouldn't be parenting in the first place, but there are plenty of cases.

 

 

 

It just gets hard then because if the parents aren't willing to give consent, why make them knowledgeable in the first place? (not my argument, just saying so for the sake of it).

 

 

 

I don't condone the child keeping this a secret from their parents, but at the same time the option of abortion still needs to be on the table. If my sister got pregnant, there's no chance my mom would allow her to abort if she wanted to.

 

 

 

All and all, if there is a way for the child to get the abortion through legal methods, regardless of parental consent, then I don't mind parents being contacted.

I wouldn't think its safe to say "I watched this stuff early on, so it is safe for all kids to see it". There are kids who are unfased by the violent and sexual contents of the media and live a normal life. then there are kids who will learn something from it. Nothing good can come out from having a kid watch these things early on, and all it does is increase risk of them doing something stupid or illegal later. What reason could there possibly be to open up violence and sex to a younger person? To expand their sources of entertainment and sex education? is it really necessary?

 

 

 

edit: after reading more posts of the thread, I realize that if I end my post on the above questions, I'd get attacked with "did you read the other posts?!?!?!" from dozens of people. So let me clarify some things:

 

I would think that pre-puberty, there's no reason for full on sex ed. Now that doesn't mean puberty education is restricted. kids around 8-10 should probably have education about the changes in their bodies before it happens, so in case they're one of the few girls who get a period early on they won't think they've been injured, or when a kid sprouts a few pubic hairs they won't think they're a freak. However, sex ed should be left for another year or two.

 

 

 

Kids around age 10 don't need to care what sex ed is, though girls should probably know what a rape is pretty early. Its easy for rapists especially people close to them to just say "it'll be fun" or "all girls do this". but for sex ed, there's not really a need until around 10 or 12 I'd say, because before that boys probably won't be ejaculating and not all girls will have their period by then. accidental pregnancies or STDs are usually incredibly rare before teen years. In conclusion I don't see a need for the sex talk before around 9 or 10 , though puberty and rape should be covered beforehand.

The most important issue isn't necessarily when you introduce children to these subjects but how you do it. I think children should be educated regarding sex/violence in an honest, mature and informative way so they have a full understanding of the issues involved.

Sex/Nudity is natural, and I'm pretty sure it's not going to affect children if they know about it when they can get a grasp of what it is. Usually around 10 or 11 they start to understand and learn what sex/nudity is.

 

 

 

It will affect them if it isn't just knowledge about those topics. If it's anything more than words, like physical contact it will definitely have an impact. As far as learning about it, it's natural and can't do much harm.

 

 

 

Violence depends on the scale of violence exhibited. Something like a murder will probably have affects on anyone regardless of age. Abuse will probably give a bitter feeling towards the person if the child isn't getting abused themselves. If they are there will be problems in most cases.

What happens when you expose a kid to sex/violence? You get most of the people on OT :lol:

at a young age?

 

 

 

What if schools start teaching sex-ed at throughout elementary and not just in the later grades? What if kids are exposed to watching sex and violence on screen?

 

 

 

The effects of this is that the kid becomes a psychopath that goes around killing / raping people.

 

 

 

Are you kidding me? I grew up watching movies like Lethal Weapon and similar movies with my dad. My friends at the time did too. We played with BB guns, shot each other on the PS1. When I got a hold of the Internet, the first thing I did after playing games is searching for sexy photos.

 

 

 

But you know what? I think I'm normal. I don't think I have any psychological problem because I was exposed to this crap before the PG-13 mark. But do you disagree? Do you really think that mature content does something to a child?

 

 

 

I'm just like you. I remember being really young when 007: Goldeneye came out for N64 and I would play that all the time with my dad and his friends. I played with toy guns and watched really violent movies too (my parents weren't the kind that said no just because the film was rated R). And I was looking up porn when I was pretty young too. For the most part I feel I turned out pretty normal.

 

 

 

As far as mature content doing things to children, I don't think it does. As long as the parents are smart enough to explain what's going on, what shouldn't be done, etc. things would be fine. When I hear stories about games or movies influencing kids to kill people, smoke, drink, do drugs, etc. I feel like they're just trying to cover up the lack of information the kids were given, underlying problems, mental instability of the kids, or even just straight up bad parenting.

at a young age?

 

 

 

What if schools start teaching sex-ed at throughout elementary and not just in the later grades? What if kids are exposed to watching sex and violence on screen?

 

 

 

The effects of this is that the kid becomes a psychopath that goes around killing / raping people.

 

 

 

Are you kidding me? I grew up watching movies like Lethal Weapon and similar movies with my dad. My friends at the time did too. We played with BB guns, shot each other on the PS1. When I got a hold of the Internet, the first thing I did after playing games is searching for sexy photos.

 

 

 

But you know what? I think I'm normal. I don't think I have any psychological problem because I was exposed to this crap before the PG-13 mark. But do you disagree? Do you really think that mature content does something to a child?

 

 

 

I'm just like you. I remember being really young when 007: Goldeneye came out for N64 and I would play that all the time with my dad and his friends. I played with toy guns and watched really violent movies too (my parents weren't the kind that said no just because the film was rated R). And I was looking up porn when I was pretty young too. For the most part I feel I turned out pretty normal.

 

 

 

As far as mature content doing things to children, I don't think it does. As long as the parents are smart enough to explain what's going on, what shouldn't be done, etc. things would be fine. When I hear stories about games or movies influencing kids to kill people, smoke, drink, do drugs, etc. I feel like they're just trying to cover up the lack of information the kids were given, underlying problems, mental instability of the kids, or even just straight up bad parenting.

 

Yeah, my dad explained drugs to me in a way I could understand. He took a peanut (with the shell) and held it up saying "this is your brain." I got a little mad that he said I had a peanut brain, but that wasn't the point. He crushed it between his fingers into little flakes and crumbs, and said "this is your brain on drugs." Now that is the proper way to parent :thumbsup: (I realize not all drugs will demolish your brain and such but it was a good demonstration)

Well, I've been exposed to violence and sex since the age of 7. The first time I saw porn was when I was 7, when I was doing a project on farm animals and it came up with a porn site called 'Farmy Time'. My mom also let me watch violent movies and then my mom/dad also let me watch violent movies. Then when I was 9 I started developing a habit for porn, and at the same time my mom let me play GTA VC, and let me watch violent movies likes Bad Boy and Blade 2. Then for a few years I got off the porn until when I was 11 I developed a porn habit as well as I started masturbating which still continues to this day. However I believe I've turned out normal. Many people will think otherwise due to my recent posts, but rest assured thats over now.

 

 

 

Nothing bad happens. Most people at my school were exposed to violence at a young age. Everybody seems pretty normal. It hasn't caused any psychological problems. I don't see why it would. Except in some special cases. Does anyone remember the story about that 7 year old gangster who stole his grandma's car and had a joyride? It was only like 2 months ago.

at a young age?

 

 

 

What if schools start teaching sex-ed at throughout elementary and not just in the later grades? What if kids are exposed to watching sex and violence on screen?

 

 

 

The effects of this is that the kid becomes a psychopath that goes around killing / raping people.

 

 

 

Are you kidding me? I grew up watching movies like Lethal Weapon and similar movies with my dad. My friends at the time did too. We played with BB guns, shot each other on the PS1. When I got a hold of the Internet, the first thing I did after playing games is searching for sexy photos.

 

 

 

But you know what? I think I'm normal. I don't think I have any psychological problem because I was exposed to this crap before the PG-13 mark. But do you disagree? Do you really think that mature content does something to a child?

 

 

 

I'm just like you. I remember being really young when 007: Goldeneye came out for N64 and I would play that all the time with my dad and his friends. I played with toy guns and watched really violent movies too (my parents weren't the kind that said no just because the film was rated R). And I was looking up porn when I was pretty young too. For the most part I feel I turned out pretty normal.

 

 

 

As far as mature content doing things to children, I don't think it does. As long as the parents are smart enough to explain what's going on, what shouldn't be done, etc. things would be fine. When I hear stories about games or movies influencing kids to kill people, smoke, drink, do drugs, etc. I feel like they're just trying to cover up the lack of information the kids were given, underlying problems, mental instability of the kids, or even just straight up bad parenting.

 

Yeah, my dad explained drugs to me in a way I could understand. He took a peanut (with the shell) and held it up saying "this is your brain." I got a little mad that he said I had a peanut brain, but that wasn't the point. He crushed it between his fingers into little flakes and crumbs, and said "this is your brain on drugs." Now that is the proper way to parent :thumbsup: (I realize not all drugs will demolish your brain and such but it was a good demonstration)

 

 

 

Yeah, my parents left it up to the school system to scare me out of using drugs and they did a terrible job. The internet acutally taught me more about how drugs truely effect you than my school did. I've experimented with a few drugs but the drugs that destroy your brain are the ones I would never try (namely hard drugs like cocain, lsd, heroin, meth, etc). When I become a parent I plan on giving my kids the truth about drugs and alcohol, not trying to scare them out of ever using them.

Reminds me of that one Law and Order: SVU episode...when the 13-year old kid watched hardcore sex when he was home. The poor dad had to work all day since he and his wife got a divforce and the kid had no one to stop hm. He later raped a bunch of younger kids, thinking sex was normal because what he saw.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I SAW that one! :o

 

 

 

Bah, I mean tbh, violence is ok, but not sex at an early age, idk why I think that lol.

When i was 12, the teacher walked in one day and said: class, today you are going to learn about reproduction.

 

The whole class(at least all of the boys) laughed.

It depends on the child, his/her parents, and the place where he/she, was brought up. In a bad neighborhood the kids is going to be exposed to sex and violence anyway, it's better to tell the child early and hope the follow your advice (if not they'll probably end up getting someone pregnant.) In a nice community there is less chance they will be exposed at a young age and I see no harm in postponing the talk (until they are older). This mostly is about sex because it's a little too hard to avoid violence anymore.

Tbh I think most of the innocent sounding "oh I saw it online/gta so I did it myself" are crap in most circumstances.

 

 

 

I don't think it really affects them too much at all, and if it does its due to them being stupid...

if you're exposed to something from a young age, then it just becomes normal, violence is one thing, but sex is a fact of life, i see no reason to 'protect' little kids from something completely harmless.

 

 

 

violence, when not excessive, or glorified, will just build strength of character.

My Mam was really open about quite a lot of things to me when I was 8-13ish. If I came across something and I didn't understand it I felt quite comfortable to go and talk to her about and she would explain it, if she felt she needed to. So at a young age I wasn't exposed to the bs that surrounds a lot of these issues. I used to play games with my older brother and being the little tom boy I was, I used to play rugby, football, wrestling. I was exposed to fighting and violence and sex but I am pretty normal. While games can make an already disturbed mind psychotic, I don't think they can take a normal child and turn them into gun wielding maniacs.

Teaching Sex-ed at elementary schools may be too far, but parents REALLY need to step up and do it in early years. They need to put a respect for one's body and mind in the child's mind and not cram it in when they've already gotten someone pregnant/become pregnant and have weed scent all over their clothes.

 

 

 

As for if it twists the mind, I don't know. I'm fairly "weird", but if you're not weird, then you're weird/malformed \ . I've played halo 2 and 3, I've played games with a fair amount of "fake" blood in it, and I look at male ecchi and yaoi on a regular basis (I'm just a weird female-type person like that : ). I'm not sure whether one begets the other but I can't watch an anime called Elfin Lied because I'm hemophobic (scared of blood). I also can't watch domestic violence on CNN videos. Maybe it's just something in video games that makes it "unreal" so it's ok? :-s

 

 

 

if you're exposed to something from a young age, then it just becomes normal, violence is one thing, but sex is a fact of life, i see no reason to 'protect' little kids from something completely harmless.

 

 

 

violence, when not excessive, or glorified, will just build strength of character.

 

 

 

It's more along the lines of what you do with power/privileges. Violence will keep your girlfriend from being raped by some maniac. Sex keeps the human race going. Violence also kills that family of a mother and 3 kids because the robber was a sadist. Sex is also why STd's exist in a fair portion and not some rare diseases.

Teaching Sex-ed at elementary schools may be too far

 

 

 

I don't think that's too far at all. Where I live, sex-ed starts around 3rd grade. Growing up in a poorish neighborhood, I knew all about sex before then but kids who are raised in higher end communities tend to be more sheltered imo. I think it's a good thing for kids to learn about sex at a young age instead of experimenting before they know the dangers.

i was playing with cap guns and playing war games where we ran around shooting each other using plastic toy guns with friends since i was like 7 or 8, maybe even younger.

 

i havnt turned out shooting people yet, and i don't have any plans to.

 

id anything it helped me, exercise and alot of other skills.

 

-i dug several 3/4 meter deep bunkers in the backyard = lots of exercise and digging skills.

 

-back then i could sneak up behind people easily without them hearing me = survival skills?

 

-hiding in places and sniping people down = survival skills?

 

-lots of running around chasing people = exercise

 

 

 

it was great

Well, I've been exposed to violence and sex since the age of 7. The first time I saw porn was when I was 7, when I was doing a project on farm animals and it came up with a porn site called 'Farmy Time'.

Lmao.

 

 

 

I've always been allowed to watch any rated movie o_O Parents who say 'You can't watch it! You're too young!' need to get a grip.

 

 

 

Funnily enough I havn't had the whole sex talk yet, and I'm 16. But I suppose that by now they know that I know how babies are made anyway. :ohnoes:

I'm a pretty happy person (If I get enough sleep), and I've been exposed to all the knowledge of sex since I was at camp at the age of 9. I've been playing violent video games since I was 8.

Well, I've been exposed to violence and sex since the age of 7. The first time I saw porn was when I was 7, when I was doing a project on farm animals and it came up with a porn site called 'Farmy Time'.

Lmao.

 

 

 

I've always been allowed to watch any rated movie o_O Parents who say 'You can't watch it! You're too young!' need to get a grip.

 

 

 

Funnily enough I havn't had the whole sex talk yet, and I'm 16. But I suppose that by now they know that I know how babies are made anyway. :ohnoes:

 

I never got a talk, my parents just handed me a book. Truth is, I had found it/read it already, and I knew it was intended for me. My brother had got one also, I liked his better, to be honest. :P

My parents gave me a computer and internet access. That was our "talk". And they told me to wrap up my tool. If I come back with herpes, I don't get to eat turkey at Thanksgiving.

TBH, kids s should be exposed starting at a younger age and being told more as they get older. I never heard anything about sex till my 6th grade year. I was a very curios kid after wards. I also hate when people talk about anything sex related, they only show the ugly, bad parts, not the beautiful, good parts. When you tell someone something is bad, they tend to investigate, well males to anyway.

 

 

 

My parents have lied to me so many times, I can't trust them. Even after I said Santa wasn't real he is just a fake, my parents denied it. Thanks to my rebelious nature, I've been kicked out of walmart 14 times \