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Thought I'd just add some insight from an NPR piece I read this morning:

 

Even In A Virtual World, The Harsh Reality Of Sexual Harassment Persists

 

I like this quote:

 

"It's a different manifestation of the same behavior. So whether it's being overly flirtatious in the workplace or putting your hand on someone's leg when they didn't want it — it's all unwanted sexual behavior driven by sexist tendencies."

Personally, I believe the outcome of our actions is more important than the intent behind our actions.

 

Hypotheritcal situation alert! Say I play a FPS and teabag my opponents because I find it funny. The intent is humor derived from playful jests at the opponent's expense. It comes to light that teabagging is linked to a decrease in women playing FPS. My intent (humor, playful jesting, whatever) is meaningless, because the effect of my action is results in a sexist outcome.


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Pretty much every programming community sucks. Like, usually programmers in real life are cool, but the online communities seem to attract the lonely neckbeard type of programmers. It's always alt-right bullshit, women suck, not-so-casual racism in every off topic conversation.

 

I think there tends to be a bit of a correlation between one's lack of social skills and one's interest in programming, gaming, and stuff like that. And I also think people tend to blame the world around them for their shortcomings as a gut reaction, rather than looking for reasons why their own decisions and beliefs might be the problem. So when people have bad social skills and bad experiences with the opposite sex, combined with their initial tendencies to blame everyone but themselves for their circumstances, it's easy to see how some people can gravitate to certain political movements which center around blaming some external group of people for their problems

 

I think you are reaching a bit too far in that one. As said, a lot of gamers actually know nothing of programming or something like that.

Programming by itself is kinda a niche thing. I think there are studies where it has been shown that some autists are better programmers, but they are also better mathematicians in general. They have the ability to spot the flaws in code or patterns.

There are also other sorts of autists that are excellent with musical instruments and completely suck at human interaction for example.

But such autists are few and far between. Well, not too few, but I think a minority.

 

Here comes the question that what precisely is autism.

 

But I don't think modern gamers in general have issues with lack of social skills. At least I don't think I am lacking in any.


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So I've noticed this thread's regulars all follow similar trends.

 

RPG is constantly dealing with psycho exes.

Muggi reminds us of the joys of polygamy.

Saq is totally oblivious to how much chicks dig him.

I strike out every other week.

Kalphite wages a war against the friend zone.

Randox pretty much stays rational.

Etc, etc

 

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Thought I'd just add some insight from an NPR piece I read this morning:

 

Even In A Virtual World, The Harsh Reality Of Sexual Harassment Persists

 

I like this quote:

 

"It's a different manifestation of the same behavior. So whether it's being overly flirtatious in the workplace or putting your hand on someone's leg when they didn't want it — it's all unwanted sexual behavior driven by sexist tendencies."

Personally, I believe the outcome of our actions is more important than the intent behind our actions.

 

Hypotheritcal situation alert! Say I play a FPS and teabag my opponents because I find it funny. The intent is humor derived from playful jests at the opponent's expense. It comes to light that teabagging is linked to a decrease in women playing FPS. My intent (humor, playful jesting, whatever) is meaningless, because the effect of my action is results in a sexist outcome.

 

 

while that's true that the intent is irrelevant in that instance, I'd argue that the hypothetical teabagger (lol) probably doesn't really give a shit about the decrease in women playing so there's not really much of an incentive for them to stop teabagging lol


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Hypotheritcal situation alert! Say I play a FPS and teabag my opponents because I find it funny.

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The intent is humor derived from playful jests at the opponent's expense.

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It comes to light that teabagging is linked to a decrease in women playing FPS.

What, because only women are upset enough about teabagging to quit? That's a pretty sexist thing to suppose.

 

My intent (humor, playful jesting, whatever) is meaningless, because the effect of my action is results in a sexist outcome.

Unless you're targeting people because of their gender, the outcome doesn't much matter.

 

A work requirement of being able to lift and move 100 pounds for the duration of a shift may exclude more women than men, but that doesn't change the nature of the work or the job requirements.

In my experience, many more women are engaged in local nursing programs than men. Should a local posting for a nursing job include a requirement for a nursing degree even though such a requirement disqualifies men at a significantly higher rate than women?

 

The intent is obviously to make sure that candidates can actually do the work, but what I'm gathering from you is that it's still sexist (and therefore bad) because it results in a "sexist outcome"

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Welp i finally gave in and bought an iPhone 7. 

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I had the most hilarious bug in a project that resulted in two days wasted.

 

Silly dynamically typed languages and implicit boolean coercion!

 

Welp i finally gave in and bought an iPhone 7.

I'm thinking of getting a basic Android phone and getting rid of all the Google stuff, but I have no idea where to begin. Getting rid of my Windows Phone is the last stop necessary to rid myself of Microsoft services.

 

It's been over a year that I haven't used Windows on my computers for more than a few dozen hours (VMs, small stint trying Windows 10, etc). I don't use Facebook (and their other services). And I've been slowly moving away from Gmail.

 

Soon, I'll be independent of these monsters. Soon...

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Oh God it's spreading

 

I think I'll buy battlefield 1 soon. Anyone else play it yet?


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What, because only women are upset enough about teabagging to quit? That's a pretty sexist thing to suppose.

This is why I don't discuss things on the internet. You can't even reason through a hypothetical situation without being absurd.

 

Oh, sorry for calling you out on your (presumably unintentional) sexism.

 

What's really absurd here is that you can't even build a scenario to campaign against sexism without being sexist yourself.

You don't explicitly state that women would quit at a greater rate than men, but it's pretty heavily implied. After all, how could it be sexist (even by your backward-looking standard) if no sex sees disproportionate adversity? There's a reason you chose a disproportionate decline in female players, and I was genuinely curious as to why.

 

Well done on disregarding most of my post, though.

 

 

You obviously don't understand.

Obviously. Thank you for helping me to correct my flawed understanding of the world.

 

I never supposed anything. Do you know what a hypothetical situation is? Do you know its purpose?

Dictionary.com says:

adjective, Also, hypothetic (for defs 1–4).

1. assumed by hypothesis; supposed: a hypothetical case.

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I had to double check in case it had changed. Yeah, looks like I might understand what a hypothetical situation/scenario is.

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Is this seriously turning into a "the real bigots are the people that notice bigotry" sort of thing...? Like it's one thing to drag the argument into a completely irrelevant context and demand that it only be argued on those terms (teabagging) and another to try to derail it further with that sort of nonsense.

I think I'll buy battlefield 1 soon. Anyone else play it yet?

It actually looks... good? Like the plot is actually worth paying attention to and the gameplay looks solid? Like there's still some general shooter-balance weirdness but if it's still a generic military shooter it's one that tried super hard not to be. Granted, I haven't played it myself and I'm usually not big on shooters that aren't mobility playgrounds, so take that with as many grains of salt as you need.

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Pretty much every programming community sucks. Like, usually programmers in real life are cool, but the online communities seem to attract the lonely neckbeard type of programmers. It's always alt-right bullshit, women suck, not-so-casual racism in every off topic conversation.

 

I think there tends to be a bit of a correlation between one's lack of social skills and one's interest in programming, gaming, and stuff like that. And I also think people tend to blame the world around them for their shortcomings as a gut reaction, rather than looking for reasons why their own decisions and beliefs might be the problem. So when people have bad social skills and bad experiences with the opposite sex, combined with their initial tendencies to blame everyone but themselves for their circumstances, it's easy to see how some people can gravitate to certain political movements which center around blaming some external group of people for their problems

 

Not really. Maybe a little more than other occupations, but all of the people I've worked with and met at conferences have been perfectly normal. There's just a selection bias because the anti-social, neckbeardy types don't get good job offers and they don't network with other programmers outside of online communities. So it stands to reason that they seem a little more common online since the real world pushes them away, which feeds back into their bitter attitudes.

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So tonight i took a "huge" step and picked up a black girl. She is so [bleep] hot i couldnt resist.  #kindadrunktiffing. 

 

EDIT: Will probably delete this when sober. 

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So tonight i took a "huge" step and picked up a black girl. She is so [bleep] hot i couldnt resist. #kindadrunktiffing.

 

EDIT: Will probably delete this when sober.

Quoting for persistance.
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So tonight i took a "huge" step and picked up a black girl. She is so [bleep] hot i couldnt resist. #kindadrunktiffing.

 

EDIT: Will probably delete this when sober.

Quoting for persistance.

 

Quoting again for reassurance. You will always remember.

 

Also, as far as I remember you were always into "black" girls so I don't find this nearly as ground breaking as you seem to.

 

Bought Battlefieeld 1, currently downloading 40 [bleep]ing gbs. Yeesh.

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Personally i consent to all groping from any gender on this forum

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So tonight i took a "huge" step and picked up a black girl. She is so [bleep] hot i couldnt resist. #kindadrunktiffing.

 

EDIT: Will probably delete this when sober.

Quoting for persistance.

 

Quoting again for reassurance. You will always remember.

 

Also, as far as I remember you were always into "black" girls so I don't find this nearly as ground breaking as you seem to.

 

Bought Battlefieeld 1, currently downloading 40 [bleep]ing gbs. Yeesh.

 

Never really black girls. I always had a thing for Indian/Pakistani girls. Still do to be honest. But i just never really found myself attracted to a black girl before, until last night. Damn... She and her entire group of friends were so damn hot. 

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GOG sale is here. I feel sorry for my wallet. And my empty stomach.


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So I've noticed this thread's regulars all follow similar trends.

 

RPG is constantly dealing with psycho exes.

Muggi reminds us of the joys of polygamy.

Saq is totally oblivious to how much chicks dig him.

I strike out every other week.

Kalphite wages a war against the friend zone.

Randox pretty much stays rational.

Etc, etc

 

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Today I finally leveled my Fire Trapper to Level 97 in Diablo II! Apparently I need a minimum of 2970 more Baal runs to hit Level 98, so RIP my life.


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Disappointed in the lack of movember progress pictures.


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Okay, someone on this thread will be more knowledgable than me here: I finally got my first paycheck, and I'm getting ready to buy a new computer. But Thanksgiving is coming up, and consequently, Cyber Monday, so I'm trying to decide whether I should wait until then to buy some or all of my parts with the assumption that they'll be on sale, or if the savings will be negligible enough that I should just get things now.

 

Also if anyone has some nice $1000 builds to recommend I'd take those. I'm probably going to build my own using someone else's parts list, because I'm so overwhelmed by actually picking things out myself >.>

 

(I could make a thread in the appropriate forum, but heck that honestly)


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I'm guessing that you don't have a lot of money saved since it's your first paycheck, so wait a bit

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I got a starting bonus of 2500 and set aside 1000 of it for this computer, so I'm okay moneywise.


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Light gaming + general use stuff. 


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