jackattack Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Maybe because they are our allies? My carbon footprint is bigger than yours...and you know what they say about big feet. These are the times that try mens souls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loi86 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 How is this Bush's fault? Anyways some kid that can barely type is telling us about WWIII, yeah I really think this is true. Retired from Runescape September 1, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Why would Iraq be on russia's side? if russia attacks the u.s.a why wouldn't iraq join them? Because we have thousands of troops there, and their military is being instructed by ours. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I hope if a war like that ever does breakout, it is finished with a game of chess and not thousands of bodies disintegrating for once. :( A hippie can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgfuyfyuiuy0 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 The U.S tends to not get involved unless we as a nation are directly affected or any of our allies need help. We wouldn't want to involve ourselves in a war and make the world more pissed at us. If Georgia and Russia want to duke it out then let them duke it out. We already have Iraq on our hands :lol: EDIT: Answering the main question. If the U.S. gets involved in another war that could potentially be WWIII then I will be on the front lines. I <3 Gears of War 2. Add me on Xbox Live and mention you are from Tif :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Who are you and why are you sharing your stupid? [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpez Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 ^ i have to agree with this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgfuyfyuiuy0 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Why would Iraq be on russia's side? if russia attacks the u.s.a why wouldn't iraq join them? If you are going to 'predict' something like WWIII then I would highly suggest you do some research before drawing a conclusion. Russia has been allies with the U.S since WWII. They were known as the Soviet Union until December of 1991, so technically we were allies with the Soviet Union since WWII up until '91 when the Soviet Union collapsed and became known as Russia. We have the ANZUS pact binding the U.S, Australia, and New Zealand. New Zealand and Australia have the "Five Powers Act" binding Malaysia, Australia, Singapore, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom. Basically, the U.S has alliances with a lot of countries and has a healthy relationship with China and China is a member of the UN. (Referring to original post about China teaming with other countries against the U.S) Named: Australia = Malaysia, Singapore, and U.K New Zealand = Malaysia, Singapore, and U.K China Canada Mexico Russia Japan Israel Puerto Rico Belgium France Sweden Uruguay Guam Spain South Korea (?) etc. I think the only thing that could happen was Georgia got pissed, joined with Iran, Cuba, North Korea, Bhutan, and Sudan which would lead to a problem, but not a very big problem as most of the world could take care of it. The countries listed in this paragraph are ones the U.S doesn't have any form of relation with. I doubt WWIII could happen anytime soon as most countries seem to have pacts with each other and a few don't. I also have to agree with Rebdragon. I <3 Gears of War 2. Add me on Xbox Live and mention you are from Tif :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1_man_army Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Russia has been allies with the U.S since WWII. They were known as the Soviet Union until December of 1991, so technically we were allies with the Soviet Union since WWII up until '91 when the Soviet Union collapsed and became known as Russia. Yes the Cold War was a very friendly period between USSR and USA. Do you have any other peals of wisdom? He who learns must suffer, and, even in our sleep, pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart,and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus (525 BC - 456 BC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamster Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 do you really expect us humans to live forever and ever without fighting ANOTHER world war Yes. I think we are close to a WWIII. The tension is there. If the amount of tension in the world right now could cause a world war, then the Cold War would have started WWIII through WWVIII. Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren211 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 This is Bush's fault? :? To answer the title's question, I'll probably be at school. I wonder if they'll start those videos again. :twss: Haha, those are great. Don't underestimate the power of a desk. Anyways, I guess I should answer the question. I'd be a duck. Because that won't happen with me alive, particularly with those fighters, as I said. And I decided I'd get reincarnated. I hope you know that if you're under a desk, and the ceiling falls, you're dead. The desk will just fall on you and crush you. I know plenty of fire fighters, and they all say that if the person had been next to the desk, instead of under it, the person could have been saved. Not to mention the little effectiveness a desk has against the heat and radiation of a nuclear bomb :wall: [hide=]tip it would pay me $500.00 to keep my clothes ON :( :lol:But then again, you fail to realize that 101% of the people in this universe hate you. Yes, humankind's hatred against you goes beyond mathematical possibilities.That tears it. I'm starting an animal rebellion using my mind powers. Those PETA bastards will never see it coming until the porcupines are half way up their asses.[/hide]Apparently a lot of people say it. I own. http://linkagg.com/ Not my site, but a simple, budding site that links often unheard-of websites that are amazing for usefulness and fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamster Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I think the only thing that could happen was Georgia got pissed, joined with Iran, Cuba, North Korea, Bhutan, and Sudan which would lead to a problem, but not a very big problem as most of the world could take care of it. Cuba has not been enemies with the United States since the Soviet Union fell. It's too bad that the US government hasn't lifted the trade embargo they placed in 1960, which is something they should have done years ago, especially now that Fidel Castro is no longer in power. Ah, this reminds me about the noob on the Runescape forums who was upset with the quest "Cold War" because apparently his grandparents died in the war. :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgfuyfyuiuy0 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I think the only thing that could happen was Georgia got pissed, joined with Iran, Cuba, North Korea, Bhutan, and Sudan which would lead to a problem, but not a very big problem as most of the world could take care of it. Cuba has not been enemies with the United States since the Soviet Union fell. It's too bad that the US government hasn't lifted the trade embargo they placed in 1960, which is something they should have done years ago, especially now that Fidel Castro is no longer in power. I didn't say they were enemies. I said they didn't have any formal relationship with the U.S meaning they don't have a pact or anything stating they wouldn't attack us. Russia has been allies with the U.S since WWII. They were known as the Soviet Union until December of 1991, so technically we were allies with the Soviet Union since WWII up until '91 when the Soviet Union collapsed and became known as Russia. Yes the Cold War was a very friendly period between USSR and USA. Do you have any other peals of wisdom? Could you be any more ignorant? I am merely stating we have had a pretty good relationship with Russia. I doubt they'd attack the U.S as we have better missile defense systems than they do. If they really cared so much as to attempt to send a nuclear bomb to the U.S, the U.S would intercept it with another missile via missile silos stationed in the U.S or SMBLs stationed in waters most likely close to Russia anyways. Plus, the Cold War is over and relationships formed. Happens with most wars. Spain was pissed at the U.S about the Spanish-American War, but they became more civil after the Treaty of Paris was signed. I <3 Gears of War 2. Add me on Xbox Live and mention you are from Tif :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Personally, I'm not hoping for another world war. With supposed nuclear weapons being developed in North Korea and Russia's (probably true) hidden nuclear stockpiles, I wouldn't be surprised if a few of those bombs get dropped on several countries (especially on my neighbours, the United States) that are against them. I wouldn't prefer that as I don't feel like having my city demolished because of some stupid argument that resorted to violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmcannibalism Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 ould you be any more ignorant? I am merely stating we have had a pretty good relationship with Russia. I doubt they'd attack the U.S as we have better missile defense systems than they do. If they really cared so much as to attempt to send a nuclear bomb to the U.S, the U.S would intercept it with another missile via missile silos stationed in the U.S or SMBLs stationed in waters most likely close to Russia anyways. you do realize that most speculation over the next world war starting is because of Russia acting in an aggressive manner? Check the recent story about georgia and the threats against poland and you will see Russia is very unreliable right now my main concern if a war does break out or not is if it goes nuclear. If it stays a "conventional" war then I will most likely end up involved in the fighting or in some way involved with the conflict(learning to build something army needs or whatever). If it turns into a nuclear war im getting to my girlfriends house and then... Orthodoxy is unconciousnessthe only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Pirates Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 The British are coming, The British are coming! *Jumps into bomb shelter* BR BR BR? HUEHUEHEUEHUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1_man_army Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Russia has been allies with the U.S since WWII. They were known as the Soviet Union until December of 1991, so technically we were allies with the Soviet Union since WWII up until '91 when the Soviet Union collapsed and became known as Russia. Yes the Cold War was a very friendly period between USSR and USA. Do you have any other peals of wisdom? Could you be any more ignorant? I am merely stating we have had a pretty good relationship with Russia. ... Plus, the Cold War is over and relationships formed. Happens with most wars. Spain was pissed at the U.S about the Spanish-American War, but they became more civil after the Treaty of Paris was signed. How am I being ignorant? You stated that during the period from WW2 until the present Russia has been a US ally when that is obviously not the case to anyone who has even the most basic grasp of history. I think you need to hit the books big time. Seriously, do they teach any history at schools? As for your comment regarding the Spanish-American War, it's in no way relevant to this topic or our own debate here. Also it is not comparable at all, Spain and America went to war (an actual fought war) and later made peace. They didn't participate in an arms race, participate in proxy wars and have a severe state of conflict for a period of over 40 years. To call the Cold War a period in which USA & USSR are allies is a laughable claim which is factually wrong. Now, I'm sorry if that upsets you and destroys the credibility of your posts in this topic but I have historical fact on my side here. edit - Noticed the Spain comment and added a paragraph accordingly. He who learns must suffer, and, even in our sleep, pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart,and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus (525 BC - 456 BC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scootlaboot Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Russia has been allies with the U.S since WWII. They were known as the Soviet Union until December of 1991, so technically we were allies with the Soviet Union since WWII up until '91 when the Soviet Union collapsed and became known as Russia. Yes the Cold War was a very friendly period between USSR and USA. Do you have any other peals of wisdom? Could you be any more ignorant? I am merely stating we have had a pretty good relationship with Russia. How am I being ignorant? You stated that during the period from WW2 until the present Russia has been a US ally when that is obviously not the case to anyone who has even the most basic grasp of history. I think you need to hit the books big time. Seriously, do they teach any history at schools? They do they but teaching and learning are two different things, but I don't see how anyone could have overlooked "The Cold War." If you choose your beliefs/lifestyle simply based on what your parents want, then you are a weak minded individual and are not even worthy of calling yourself a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgfuyfyuiuy0 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Could you be any more ignorant? I am merely stating we have had a pretty good relationship with Russia. ... Plus, the Cold War is over and relationships formed. Happens with most wars. Spain was pissed at the U.S about the Spanish-American War, but they became more civil after the Treaty of Paris was signed. How am I being ignorant? You stated that during the period from WW2 until the present Russia has been a US ally when that is obviously not the case to anyone who has even the most basic grasp of history. I think you need to hit the books big time. Seriously, do they teach any history at schools? As for your comment regarding the Spanish-American War, it's in no way relevant to this topic or our own debate here. Also it is not comparable at all, Spain and America went to war (an actual fought war) and later made peace. They didn't participate in an arms race, participate in proxy wars and have a severe state of conflict for a period of over 40 years. To call the Cold War a period in which USA & USSR are allies is a laughable claim which is factually wrong. Now, I'm sorry if that upsets you and destroys the credibility of your posts in this topic but I have historical fact on my side here. edit - Noticed the Spain comment and added a paragraph accordingly. It is relevant to our topic as I am stating the relationship between countries even after war. I did not directly state that the US and USSR were allies during the Cold War. That would be stupid. Also, to state that I don't know history is a laughable claim too because why would I allow myself to make a claim without providing information to back it up. I don't see anywhere in my previous statements that say "The US and USSR were allies and they were even allies during the Cold War." So, I don't know where you pulled that claim out of. As for the destroying of credibility, that is not relevant. I know my history and I was making an accusation. We have been allies with Russia and as for the Cold War and the newly debated controversy about Georgia, we were still allies with Russia. As for scootlaboot's comment, I am not going to respond to it as it doesn't contribute to our debate. We were allies with Soviet Union in World War II along with the UK, France, etc. It was a military alliance. During the Cold War, Russia joined the Warsaw Pact along with Germany, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, and I believe Czechoslovakia. The U.S formed many pacts at well, but all have been ended except for ANZUS. The Cold War was only a conflict between the USSR and the U.S along with their allies. This caused nuclear arm races, the space race, etc. The same problem arises now since Russia is behind on their missile development. They have pretty old technology compared to the advances of the U.S in nuclear technology and target locking capabilities. We have SMBLs positioned throughout the globe that could destroy Russia if they attempted to attack us. Now, to say I know nothing about relations and history was quite ignorant as I do know history and I do know what I am talking about. All I am saying is the US and Russia had a relationship pre Cold War, between the years of the Cold War, and after '91 up until the whole conflict with Georgia. My posts are credible and you just read wrong. Mhmm. I <3 Gears of War 2. Add me on Xbox Live and mention you are from Tif :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmier Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I'll be in my Flak and Kevlar waiting for the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkace21 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I will be in an underground bunker, in Alaska. With my girlfriend, with lots of food, and an Ak-47 for when nuclear exposure turns people into zombies. People in glass houses should shower in the basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragoonson Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 On the top of a high rise building,aiming at the enemy general's head,probably.I hope to get to that rank before WWIII,so its highly likely =D. But realistically thinking,I'd probably be in Singapore's Reservists,or an old folks home.Heh. so i herd u liek devarts?If you look at me and feel offended by my 666-ism,think.I could be just as offended by your "cross".[hide=This's why I'm hot]The Eleventh Commandment:Thou Shalst only say "Amen,brother".Amen, brother :lol:Amen, brudda (referring to the 10th commandment)amen Bruder! (german ftw)I'm invulnerable to everything, except Lenin and Dragoonson.That's impossible. I love people.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hohto Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 We have been allies with Russia and as for the Cold War and the newly debated controversy about Georgia, we were still allies with Russia. During what point was USA and Russia allied? Their friendly policy towards each other was still far away from being alliance and no allied countries would have same volume in arguements as you two got at the moment. . During the Cold War, Russia joined the Warsaw Pact along with Germany, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, and I believe Czechoslovakia. USSR started their own alliance as a retaliation to NATO: it was founded a day after west Germany joined NATO. You also forgot to mention Albania and add at "east" in from of Germany. The same problem arises now since Russia is behind on their missile development. They have pretty old technology compared to the advances of the U.S in nuclear technology and target locking capabilities. We have SMBLs positioned throughout the globe that could destroy Russia if they attempted to attack us. Russia's military budget is the fastest rising military budget and they've already relaunched many thing that were cut down right after the collapse of USSR. They got enough technology to blow up this whole planet multiple times and that includes destroying you. The U.S formed many pacts at well, but all have been ended except for ANZUS. Does NATO ring any bells? I'd rather die for what I believe in than live for anything else.Name Removed by Administrator ~Turtlefemm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin113 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 There will be no war. America is going into economic meltdown. There's more likely to be another Great Depression than a war. Houses that would sell in England for about £900k (at least $1,500k) are selling, in Hollywood, for $86k. Just like before the last Great Depression, the banks got over-confident and started letting out loans and mortgages only asking for yearly wages mouth to mouth and not needing verification. Because of the house prices plummetting, there's no point people paying back their mortgages, noone has any cash and their houses are worthless so banks have nothing to reclaim in return. Also, back on topic, you seem to have forgotten that China is in the middle of a huge propaganda drive to the west - thousands of videos uploaded onto youtube showing china's prosperity and programmes on the tv are proof of that. Both sides know that a war could be potentially fatal for the world due to the war-technology availiable at the moment, and people are less war-orientated than they were; back in the times of WW1 and 2 machine guns were new, planes were only used for surveilance at the start of ww1 - pilots of opposing sides waved at each other as they passed, a year later they took pistols up and shot at each other, they then started throwing grenades out of the planes, and fighter and bomber planes were started. In ww2, a war hungry, mad dictator invaded Poland, underestimating the serverity of the proposed intentions of France and Britain when they said they would protect Poland - they had said the same for Czechoslovkia and ended up letting Hitler take control of all the best parts, why should he think they wouldn't do they same for Poland? What he didn't know is that since he invaded Britain underwent the biggest peace-time rearmament in history. Are we doind that now? no. We may be on a peace time budget but we have a fairly small army stretched across the Middle East and advertising frequently for more soldiers. Even if you've just skipped through all that, I'll tell you here: noone wants a war, noone is ready for a war, and there are no real reasons to go to war. Thanks to Quarra for the awesome sig!Xbox360 Gamertag = Tintin113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgfuyfyuiuy0 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 We have been allies with Russia and as for the Cold War and the newly debated controversy about Georgia, we were still allies with Russia. During what point was USA and Russia allied? Their friendly policy towards each other was still far away from being alliance and no allied countries would have same volume in arguements as you two got at the moment. Answering you question about when they were allied was during WWII. You didn't ask for any specific time and date. Also, a friendly policy is better than a hostile one. USSR started their own alliance as a retaliation to NATO: it was founded a day after west Germany joined NATO. You also forgot to mention Albania and add at "east" in from of Germany. I named them off the top of my head. Sorry for the 'east' :roll: Russia's military budget is the fastest rising military budget and they've already relaunched many thing that were cut down right after the collapse of USSR. They got enough technology to blow up this whole planet multiple times and that includes destroying you. They had the technology then. They do not have the technology now as America has increased military spending causing our military to research fields such as nuclear weapons and missile shields. There's a distinct difference between how the USSR ran and how Russia runs today. Their missile technology is older and I doubt they could get a missile to touch the U.S even if they launched all of them at once considering we have target locking systems capable of pinpointing a missile and blowing it up. With SLBMs positioned throughout the world along with missile silos stationed in various parts, I honestly doubt Russia has the capability to blow up the U.S. Does NATO ring any bells? I was providing pacts that were formed during the Cold War. I <3 Gears of War 2. Add me on Xbox Live and mention you are from Tif :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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