the amount of time needed makes them speial.

 

 

 

the 99s havn't become easier to get, people just are better at skilling these days so knwo cooking, fletch and pssibly fm are very easy to get.

It depends on whether you're doing it for the respect of others or to have an accomplishment that you're proud of. If you're doing it for others, then sure, a lot of the capes are looked down on as "not worthy" (because people are elitist and hold everyone else to standards unreasonably higher than their own). But if you're doing it for yourself, then earning 13 million exp in ANY skill is pretty amazing. Who cares what anyone else says, you did it and succeeded in your own goal. :thumbsup:

I would say the fletching cape. Most of the high level mems gone F2P seem to wear it.

Its still special just not as special. So many people have 99 firemaking though lol. Its by far the easyist skill (to buy that is). Going for 99 seems over rated to me. Get your skill level to the level that you can do what you want to do.

I'd love a 99, but I don't really want to get cooking, fletching or firemaking. Thats not because I don't think it's an achievement, because I do. But I'd personally rather spend more time getting a 99 (and a cape) thats a bit rarer.

It's an achievement no matter how you get it. Even if you buy all the materials, you still have to take time to process the material and you have to take time to get the money to buy all of the materials. Even though getting to 99 firemaking is pretty cheap, costing less than 4 million if you buy maple logs, you still have to burn over 90,000 logs from level 70 to get to 99. While it doesn't take as long as some skills, that still consumes a great deal of time.

13 mill xp. Quite a few people don't even have that in total. I am going for 99 fishing, and get quite a bit of abuse because it is an AFK. i think that any 99 is a great achievement, because so what if you have enough cash to spend on 99 cook, or firemaking or fletch, they are the most repetitive skills in the game, and the most boring.

There are alot of debates out there of which are the "worst" skillcapes. This isn't one of them. Over the months, some skill capes are more coveted or "special" then others. What defines that?

 

 

 

The more coveted or special capes are the ones that requires a lot more effort, skill, time or money to achieve.

 

 

 

Recently, I got my 99 Str cape. At that point I realized, what I did(pc and train) was really no different then say...fletching or cooking. Everything was simple repeated over and over. At PC, it was game after game. AT Zombies, it was kill, loot, recharge prayer, then repeat.

 

 

 

Then, that logic could be applied to EVERY skill. Everything in the end is simply repetition. Some are more "buyable" or may seem "easier", but in the end, what is the difference?

 

 

 

Does buyablilty affect it? I don't believe so. Even though you spend money and then get the 99, its exactly the same as another skill.

 

 

 

A lot of people believe slayer is the only "unique" skill. I really disagree. Although you are killing something different, in the end it is just get task, kill, repeat.

 

 

 

The more easier and buy-able skills are disregarded, with a fine example of Fletching and Cooking.

 

Slayer is indeed unqiue. Without your theory, nothing in the world will be non-repetitious. You have categorized the main theme of slayer and said it keeps repeating.

 

 

 

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For example, a person is a pastoralist. He has many options - just depending on grazing of his herds or combining grazing with cultivation and trade. Also, he keeps changing the grazing grounds every season. If the herds grazed in the same field throughout the year, that is called repetitious. Every season he moves from one place to another depending on the rainfall. At times his routes are disrupted by unforeseen circumstances (disasters). This creates a different cycle of season movement every year. But, like you, if we just say that pastoralism involves only grazing of herds and moving from one place to another, it makes it sound repetitious from a different point of view.

 

 

 

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The more coveted capes are different, as people who truly like the skill will go for the cape. Getting a 99 in a skill just for the sake of the skillcape is what is being followed by majority of the RS population and Fletching and Cooking provided great options.

 

 

 

I provided these reasons in another thread, but Slayer is one skill you enjoy, hardly get bored, make more total experience overall and get some nice drops.

 

 

 

Another way to measure is the "rarity" of the cape. If you combine the number of fletching and cooking capes, that is similar to the number of every other skillcape combined. Seeing fletching or cooking capes is not that special, but if you see say, an agility cape, crafting cape, or something uncommon, is that any better?

 

 

 

Agility capes are very hard to achieve with the average xp at Ape Atoll being 45k/hour. Added to that is that Agility offers no good benefits except run energy after the highest shortcut at some 80-odd level.

 

 

 

Fletching has around 42,000 people with 99s. Woodcutting has 24,000 average. Agility has less than 6,000. Note the difference.

 

 

 

Thanks..

 

Lord Shalaj

An achievement in my cousins Childrens dictionary says a achievement is when you do something succesfully espessially with alot of hard work.So in my opinion,the achievement of 99 in a skill could be a acomplishment or not.It depends on how you see it.If you get 99 firemaking without training it directly,(Such as making fires for cooking because your too lazy to go to a range)and you hate firemaking then you wouldnt think it was a achievement.But if you get 99 strength and you worked really hard for it,then you would be happy and maybe throw a RS party.Here's another example

 

 

 

Say you have worked many many months and spent hundreds and thousands of hours to get 99 smithing.You can now smith the dragon plate body if you completed the quest.And you can smith other stuff faster and you can smith runite.Congrats my friend.

 

 

 

But on a totally different world,but in the same place,some other guy gets 99 smithing.But he doesnt like smithing and only wants the skill cape.To him,He didnt even think about the achievement.Just the cool cape.

I have enjoyed getting 95% of the way to 99 strength, only 500k xp left and I will wear my cape with pride..

 

 

 

I don't know how many hours I've put into it, I know its a hell of alot, so that to me is an achievment.

 

 

 

++ For loving the skill

I will say that a lot of 99's have appeared after the Skillcape update (too many in fact...) because back when Skillcapes weren't around people would only get 99's they enjoyed or get to a certain level to be able to perform a certain action (eg. getting 85 mining to mine runite). Now that the skillcapes have popped up, heaps of people raced to get a 99, and once all these people got it, it wasn't as special to them as, say, someone who got 99 mining out of love for the skill.

 

 

 

I'm not saying skillcapes are bad, but they have really forced skills like fletching, cooking, and firemaking to look like really noob skills. Heh, yeah right. Fletching yew longbows for hours and hours and hours is an achievment in itself. I need to string 64K more yew longbows to get 99 from 94 fletching, but I'm proud I got this far. So, there's an achievement right there :P I enjoy fletching, yes it isn't an "epic" skill, but if you like a skill, go for the 99, and achieve that goal, you have earned an achievement, regardless of other people's opinions.

The truth is I see the extra damage from 99 strength as an extra bonus with having the cape.

I got my cooking cape firstly bcuz I wanted a skill so badly and couldnt wait for str. A 99 is a 99, whether 1 person has it, or 100,000 people have it. If you think its an achievment, its an achievment.

"Some achievement capes not that "special" anymore."

 

 

 

What do you guys think?

 

I'll explain, before skillcapes, not many people wanted 99 firemaking, there really was no reason for it, and my friend has 99 firemaking before the cape update, and was very disheartened at all of the new people just doing it for a skillcape.

 

 

 

So, what achievement capes do you guys think arent really an achievement anymore?

 

Me, I would say firemaking, fletching, and possibly woodcutting and cooking (but not really)

 

 

 

I personally can't think of any achievement cape not symbolic of an achievement. They are, after all, achievement capes for a reason, regardless of the ease (or lack of it, for some skills) of getting one.

 

 

 

Plus, i don't see a wrong with people putting in the effort to accomplish their goal of getting a skillcape, which, in itself, is quite an achievement. No matter how you look at it, maxing the skill level is an accomplishment. In terms of sacrifices, the task not only drains precious time and money, but also demands for countless finger movements and an undivided attention, which all in all makes that particular thing, when accomplished, an achievement.

 

 

 

One should also note that it is quite impossible to accurately measure or guage the amount of achievement another attains. This is because factors like expenditure, time, returns, motive and even little things like personal preference and predicament matter and come into play. There is no way to plot a graph with these variables, let alone determine how much of an 'achievement' and achievement really is.

 

 

 

For example, a working adult may not have the luxury of pumping in enough time to feed his Runescape addiction, but through numerous sleepless nights served with much caffeine, he has met the prerequisites for a skillcape in cooking, which is (generally) about one of the more frowned upon skillcape in the game. Now, compare this with a schoolboy with too much time to spare who, instead of channeling time and energy onto his education, whiles it away on his Runescape character instead. Assuming that the younger boy gains a more respectable skillcape in a shorter time span, who really 'achieves' more? Which party actually finds his cape more 'special'?

 

 

 

Much like beauty, the specialness (or lack of it) of a particular skillcape lies in the eyes of the beholder. There is no universally correct answer and no man can refute the former's opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

If you doubt the value of your skillcape, or feel uncertain about pursuing a particular skill target, here's a quote i have found useful:

 

I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!

 

 

 

-Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States

 

I, too, got my very own most-frowned-upon skillcape sticking to that.

 

 

 

btw, i do find my cooking skillcape special. Very special, in fact.

What do you guys think?

 

I'll explain, before skillcapes, not many people wanted 99 firemaking, there really was no reason for it, and my friend has 99 firemaking before the cape update, and was very disheartened at all of the new people just doing it for a skillcape.

 

 

 

So, what achievement capes do you guys think arent really an achievement anymore?

 

Me, I would say firemaking, fletching, and possibly woodcutting and cooking (but not really)

 

Ok, let me break this down and provide an analogy.

 

 

 

Before skill capes, having a 99 was an achievement. Now that there are skill capes, it's not anymore? :|

 

 

 

I think that's similar to saying that people who won the Stanley Cup 30 years ago can't call winning the Cup an achievement anymore because now more people have won the Stanley Cup since that team won it that year way back. I bet more people would have gotten 99s in skills even if skill capes weren't introduced. Maybe not as many as now, but it's still an achievement nonetheless. You might be able to argue that some skills are harder to achieve than others because of various reasons, but all skill capes are still achievements. And what is wrong with getting a skill cape just for getting a skill cape? This is Runescape, and you can do whatever you want(within the rules of course).

 

RuneScape does not follow a linear storyline; players choose their own goals. Players can fight NPC monsters, complete quests, or increase their experience in any of the available skills.

 

 

 

Drapit also said some things I agree with.

Well... to those trying to say one 99 is impressive as another, I completely disagree.

 

 

 

Cooking can give 300k xp/hour, compared to slayer's 20k xp/hour...

Well... to those trying to say one 99 is impressive as another, I completely disagree.

 

 

 

Cooking can give 300k xp/hour, compared to slayer's 20k xp/hour...

 

 

 

Impressiveness is subjective and is certainly not defined by the rate of exp gained per unit time.

 

 

 

I might just say that i simply adore gourmet cooks more than gore-filled monster bashers, no matter how easy it is to become one. You can't just define how 'special' or 'impressive' a particular achievement cape is when everyone holds a differed view.

Well... to those trying to say one 99 is impressive as another, I completely disagree.

 

 

 

Cooking can give 300k xp/hour, compared to slayer's 20k xp/hour...

 

 

 

Rubbish.

 

 

 

Impressive-ness and how "special" something is is TOTALLY based on opinions.

 

 

 

Cooking can give 300k/h, but if you train it with shrimps to level 99 for example, and you find it an achievement you can be proud of, it is special. "Special-ness" is not based on other people's opinions/achievements. It's your own achievements. Don't listen to people who laugh at you because you have a cooking cape.

 

 

 

All 99s are impressive IMO. You can have your own opinions, but I think the dedication taken to reach a level 99, regardless of it being an easy 99 or hard one.

 

 

 

You still have to take a lot of time to get a level 99 in cooking.

Regardless, even with 300k an hour.

 

 

 

It takes ~45 hours, and thats with full concentration.

It doesn't matter what other people think of it.

 

If you like the look of your cape, or proud your earned 99 in a certain skill, then ignore everyone else.

 

If you let people's opinions affect you, then there's no point in even playing RS.

I don't compare 99 cooking to 99 runecrafting simply because they are totally different. They have totally different playstyle, slayer and runecrafting was made to be slow whilst cooking was made to get food cooked, not run around half of the world talking to NPCs just so you could get 28 food cooked. The 99 cooker probably spent less time on 99 then slaying, but in all honesty who would seriously do cooking if it was as slow as slaying? None, you'd just buy your food instead.

 

 

 

Stop saying slaying is so much more impressive than cooking just because you have that 99. You're the total looser here racking down on others cape, not the guy with the cooking cape.

Well... to those trying to say one 99 is impressive as another, I completely disagree.

 

 

 

Cooking can give 300k xp/hour, compared to slayer's 20k xp/hour...

 

 

 

Rubbish.

 

 

 

Impressive-ness and how "special" something is is TOTALLY based on opinions.

 

 

 

Cooking can give 300k/h, but if you train it with shrimps to level 99 for example, and you find it an achievement you can be proud of, it is special. "Special-ness" is not based on other people's opinions/achievements. It's your own achievements. Don't listen to people who laugh at you because you have a cooking cape.

 

 

 

All 99s are impressive IMO. You can have your own opinions, but I think the dedication taken to reach a level 99, regardless of it being an easy 99 or hard one.

 

 

 

You still have to take a lot of time to get a level 99 in cooking.

 

If you reckon 99 cooking as an achievement, and something you have to invest a lot of time in, then getting a hard 99 is inhumanly hard.

 

 

 

99 cooking is just as hard as, lets say, 70 runecrafting.

 

 

 

And honestly, if you train cooking with shrimps, you're just crippling yourself. That's the same as barehandedly fighting yourself to 99 slayer. Skills like cooking and fletching are pathetically easy. 300k an hour with barely any clicking and loss of money.. come on.

 

 

 

Since every moron can get 99 cooking, and seeing how many cooking capes have infested Runescape over the years it's safe to say that 99 cooking isn't impressive anymore. Something that is so commonly observed can't be impressive.

 

 

 

I don't compare 99 cooking to 99 runecrafting simply because they are totally different. They have totally different playstyle, slayer and runecrafting was made to be slow whilst cooking was made to get food cooked, not run around half of the world talking to NPCs just so you could get 28 food cooked. The 99 cooker probably spent less time on 99 then slaying, but in all honesty who would seriously do cooking if it was as slow as slaying? None, you'd just buy your food instead.

 

 

 

Stop saying slaying is so much more impressive than cooking just because you have that 99. You're the total looser here racking down on others cape, not the guy with the cooking cape.

 

Weird comparison.. so runecrafting is just slow, and cooking is just to get food cooked? How about runecrafting is to make runes? And if cooking is just to get food cooked, then why do I see all those wannabe 99 cookers buy raw food from the GE and with the sole purpose of getting the cape?

 

 

 

Slayer is generally regarded as more impressive, simply because training slayer is a lot less easy than just spending a few million gp, click a few times and buying the cape. If you don't agree with 99 slayer being more impressive than cooking, then I guess you're one of the few.

I think skill capes are getting less impressive because you see them everywhere today. Like once being a level 126 was something insane, nowadays you see them everywhere, and it isn' t even the max combat level anymore.

 

 

 

Or having let' s say 3M in your bank on F2P. It' s not rare nor impressive anymore due to 26king, I managed to make 2.7M in 5 hours with 26king. Before I managed maybe 500k in 5 hours with lobster fishing.

 

 

 

Though having a skill cape is still an amazing achivement, it' s just not that great anymore.

 

Weird comparison.. so runecrafting is just slow, and cooking is just to get food cooked? How about runecrafting is to make runes? And if cooking is just to get food cooked, then why do I see all those wannabe 99 cookers buy raw food from the GE and with the sole purpose of getting the cape?

 

 

 

Slayer is generally regarded as more impressive, simply because training slayer is a lot less easy than just spending a few million gp, click a few times and buying the cape. If you don't agree with 99 slayer being more impressive than cooking, then I guess you're one of the few.

 

 

 

No runecrafting isn't slow. It was made slow simply because they programmed it that way. You have to run to the very long to the altar, craft the runes, teleport back and repeat. Takes time. Cooking simply have the advantage to have the "target"(in this case a fire) close to make the training faster.

 

 

 

Believe it or not, but as far as I know slaying is just clicking aswell? Wait a second!? This game is played by clicking!? OH MY GOD, WE SHUD CAL DE SWAT TEEEEM! I mean, grow the -[bleep]- up. Who said that you can't put effort into cooking and getting it to 99? Stop being a [bleep] and see 99 cooking for what it is, 13,034,431 experience. You need 13,034,431 experience in runecrafting for it to be 99. You need 13,034,431 experience in slayer for it to be 99. Oh wait, you need 13,034,431 experience for all skills to be 99. Just because you invest time to get 99 slayer doesn't make you more "cool" just because you have that cape, it just makes you a player that likes slayer. No wait, that's probably false since all you got 99 slaying for was the cape anyways, right? None gives a [cabbage] about theese capes anyways so why say that either skillcape is less of an achievement than the other? Doesn't matter if that player thinks he made a big achievement so please grow up, you need it.

Undoubtedly most of us see certain capes ie: Cooking/Fletching etc. as less impressive skills. Of course we all will have opinions on which one in our eyes seems more respectable. But if the person took time out of their day, to do that skill to get 99, more power to them. It doesn't bother me one way or another if one person has 99 Runecrafting, or 99 Fletching. If they thought their time was worth spending it on whatever skill, then it is an achievement to them (they are called Capes of Achievement right?)

 

 

 

I know we all judge, blah blah, so and so is so easy. Who really cares? They spend their money, their time, and their efforts on it, so to them it is a deserved accomplishment. But unfortunately, to the average 'Scaper, it's just another noob with a worthless cape. People are getting desensitized to capes, like Mico said, seems like everyone has them, so it's easy to put them into categories.