Cup Lion Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Muslims turn to bus ads in Seattle to create awareness about Islam The Seattle chapter of the Islamic Circle of North America is sponsoring bus ads to stir conversation and steer people toward information about Islam. By Janet I. Tu Seattle Times religion reporter Local Muslims contributed to the nearly $5,000 campaign to get ads onto the outside of six Metro buses and the inside of about 25. Local Muslims contributed to the nearly $5,000 campaign to get ads onto the outside of six Metro buses and the inside of about 25. The ads are simple and stark. Running on the sides of several Metro buses, they merely say: Q: Islam. A: You deserve to know, with a phone number and Web site. For Bilal Aijazi, a Bellevue software developer, the ads are meant to stir conversation and steer people toward information on Islam. As a Muslim, Aijazi sometimes fields questions about his faith. Especially during Ramadan, which began about two weeks ago, people ask Aijazi why Muslims fast during this Islamic holy month. Then there are the questions he gets other times of the year: Why some women wear head scarves; whether Muslims condone terrorism. We feel often Muslims dont have a voice, said Aijazi, one of about six people who helped coordinate the local effort to get the ads onto the outside of six Metro buses and the inside of about 25. About 10 local Muslims contributed to the nearly $5,000 campaign. This is just a way to present the community with a source of information about Islam that comes from Muslims themselves, he said. The ads, scheduled to run until November, were designed by the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) and direct people to a toll-free number and Web site sponsored by the group. ICNA is a New York-based nonprofit that seeks to educate people about Islam and has 22 U.S. chapters in the U.S. In addition to Seattle, the New York and Chicago chapters plan to run ads on public transit this year. The bus ads havent stirred controversy in the Seattle area, but in New York, where 1,000 of the ads are scheduled to go up in subways later this month, U.S. Rep. Peter King urged subway officials to not display them. In a letter to transit officials, the Republican congressman said he doesnt oppose the ads content. But he objects to the campaigns support by Siraj Wahhaj, a Brooklyn-based imam who was a character witness for an Egyptian cleric convicted in 1995 for conspiring to attack New York landmarks. Wahhaj, who was the first Muslim to lead a prayer before the U.S. House of Representatives, was one of several imams the New York chapter had asked to tape video commentaries posted to YouTube in support of the campaign, said ICNA secretary-general Naeem Baig. Our goal is to create this awareness about Islam, that Muslims are Americans. That Muslims are your neighbors, your colleagues, Baig said. People may have questions in their minds but dont know where to go. Marlina Soerakoesoemah, of Redmond, co-founder of Azizah, a magazine for Muslim women, likes the ads and says they make information about Islam more readily accessible. Its great to get it out there in the public view, she said. But whether such campaigns have any effect is up for debate. A 2007 poll from the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life showed that 58 percent of Americans surveyed said they knew little or nothing about Islam a figure thats changed little since 2001. And Americans attitude toward Muslims and Islam appears to have gotten slightly more negative in recent years. The same Pew poll showed that 43 percent of those surveyed had a favorable opinion of Muslims, down from 48 percent in 2004. I dont think the ads will change anybodys mind, said Aijazi, the Bellevue software developer. People will have whatever feelings theyll have about the issue. But at least theyll talk about it. Link Note: Ignore everything previous to the article. I read the article earlier in the day and forgot to write down the site, so I just googled it to find the text. Though, it is quite an interesting title of the site: "News, History, & Analysis of Events Leading to WWIII". The article pretty much is talking about how Muslims are putting "advertisements" on the sides of buses in order to spark conversation about Islam. I find this is going to be a failed attempt to get people to clarify what Islam is about, even though the advertisements contain a toll free number and a website for information on Islam. Seeing the ads might spark conversation, but people will continue to share eachother's ideas, which most likely will be biased and not the whole truth. I doubt many will actually go to the site or call the number. I don't predict it to be successful at all. What are your views on this? Is it a good idea? Is the intent worth spending the money for the advertisements? |Signature by Jason321| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 In a capitalistic nation such as this, as the owner of the buses I wouldn't give a damn if it worked as long as I got the five grand. :thumbsup: It's a good start, but I doubt it'll be very successful. It's not like the Arabs can't fork out a few grand after buying a new BMW. :lol: "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackattack Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 It seems like a good idea. As long as it's not a radical organization like cair doing it. I always see this ad...http://www.mathmiracle.com/ My carbon footprint is bigger than yours...and you know what they say about big feet. These are the times that try mens souls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 They have just as much right to as anyone else, really. If it can debunk the notion that all Muslims are terrorists, etc, then I think that can only be a good thing. I doubt it will have a significant effect, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scootlaboot Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 In a capitalistic nation such as this, as the owner of the buses I wouldn't give a damn if it worked as long as I got the five grand. :thumbsup: It's a good start, but I doubt it'll be very successful. It's not like the Arabs can't fork out a few grand after buying a new BMW. :lol: Not to sound like an [wagon], even though I am one, technically The USA has a capitalist mixed economy, but it still rings the same, as long as the bus company gets paid, its all good. If you choose your beliefs/lifestyle simply based on what your parents want, then you are a weak minded individual and are not even worthy of calling yourself a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralus Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I don't have any problem with it. The slogan seems stupid though. La lune ne garde aucune rancune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpez Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 when muslims pay for advertisements on buses its a big deal. but when christian come to your house to ask you to donate to their religion, its routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intriguing Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I don't really care. I don't pay much attention to advertising. Not nearly as bad as those bloody door-knockers.. Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmcannibalism Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 actually a really good idea, i should probably do some research on islam come to think of it. only problem is with the "intelligence" of a lot of americans we will get a lot of people making terrorist jokes and other ignorant observations. Orthodoxy is unconciousnessthe only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren211 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I couldn't care less what the bus ads say. I never listen to them anyway. Go ahead, fork out 5 grand. I'm not sure how many people you will convert, but you won't start an Islamic revolution with bus ads if that's what you're planning. [hide=]tip it would pay me $500.00 to keep my clothes ON :( :lol:But then again, you fail to realize that 101% of the people in this universe hate you. Yes, humankind's hatred against you goes beyond mathematical possibilities.That tears it. I'm starting an animal rebellion using my mind powers. Those PETA bastards will never see it coming until the porcupines are half way up their asses.[/hide]Apparently a lot of people say it. I own. http://linkagg.com/ Not my site, but a simple, budding site that links often unheard-of websites that are amazing for usefulness and fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLancer Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I couldn't care less what the bus ads say. I never listen to them anyway. Go ahead, fork out 5 grand. I'm not sure how many people you will convert, but you won't start an Islamic revolution with bus ads if that's what you're planning. Pretty sure no religion can cause a revolution in western countries anymore, general intelligence and critical thinking has gone past that stage (where it wasn't even back in 1940's when a lot of europeans were still farm workers), unless there's some serious food shortage/surge in unemployment in USA/Eu which will cause people to panic and think irrationally, that will never work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 it seems to me that they want to give people the oportuntity to find out more information about what they really believe, seeing as there are many misconceptions about Islam. I have no problems with bus ads. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I approve of the ads. The more people that realise what a barbaric religion it is the more likely people are to stay well clear of it. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baalboy5 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I approve of the ads. The more people that realise what a barbaric religion it is the more likely people are to stay well clear of it. K, well that came out of no where. Don't you know the first rule of MMO's? Anyone higher level than you has no life, and anyone lower than you is a noob. People in OT eat glass when they are bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faux Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I approve of the ads. The more people that realise what a barbaric religion it is the more likely people are to stay well clear of it. you are awesome Matt :lol: :: Guess the Movie Contest Champion: pfilc23 :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgedThesis Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I suggest that everyone tagging a religion as barbaric actually call up those numbers. But I don't want to go among mad people!Oh, you can't help that. We're all mad here..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I suggest that everyone tagging a religion as barbaric actually call up those numbers. I would concur. That doesn't just apply for Islam either. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 how is it a barbaric religion? i'd be interested in hearing your assumptions, because im sure your're incredibly well informed. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPM Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 In a capitalistic nation such as this, as the owner of the buses I wouldn't give a damn if it worked as long as I got the five grand. :thumbsup: I feel the same way, and I think it would be a good idea because it would encourage discussion of the religion, and some ACTUAL research by other people. America has a problem with believing everything the media says, and currently media says that Islam is bad... Merc, have you ever read through the Quran? In my opinion, it's just as barbaric as the christian bible. ~M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroLegionnaire Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I approve of the ads. The more people that realise what a barbaric religion it is the more likely people are to stay well clear of it. Barbaric religion? Lol... Islamic Terrorists : Al-Qaeda (Among others) Christian Terrorists : Irish Republican Army (IRA), Lord's Resistance Army, Klu Klux Klan Buddhist (Sort of anyway) Terrorists : Aum Shinrikyo Hindu Terrorists : Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) Every single major religion will have a bunch of nutters trying to blow up everyone else. Don't start insulting each others religions. Please. There are as many Christian terrorists groups as there are Islamic ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 The Klan is not religious. They do hate people for religious reasons but they are not a religious group. They basically hate anyone who is not germanic. They actually refuse to endorse most Protestant denominations because those groups publically chastise them for being evil. Basically being in the Klan is saying "I hate everybody and everything." My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroLegionnaire Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 The Klan is not religious. They do hate people for religious reasons but they are not a religious group. They basically hate anyone who is not germanic. They actually refuse to endorse most Protestant denominations because those groups publically chastise them for being evil. Basically being in the Klan is saying "I hate everybody and everything." I guess I assumed they were Christians because they waved all the crosses and whatnot. But there's no denying that a majority of them are Christians right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I never claimed that islam was more or less barbaric than any other religion, MicroLegionnaire, nor did I associate it with terrorism. The barbaricy in the koran is quite clear and graphic. 2:192 Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful ^_^ edit: I did quote a bunch of my favourite passages from the koran but didnt want to be flamed for taking things out of context so apologies for the short reply. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 The Klan is not religious. They do hate people for religious reasons but they are not a religious group. They basically hate anyone who is not germanic. They actually refuse to endorse most Protestant denominations because those groups publically chastise them for being evil. Basically being in the Klan is saying "I hate everybody and everything." I guess I assumed they were Christians because they waved all the crosses and whatnot. But there's no denying that a majority of them are Christians right? The cross it not just a symbol of Christianity. They use the cross to represent the ancient crucifix used to kill. Remember that Christ was not the first to die on a cross. The burning cross, if I remember my Birth of a Nation, represents cleansing through death. Most Klan members are going to be random Protestant (non-practicing) or atheist/agnostic. Or maybe they have their own little personal messed up religion. Remember that they persecute Catholics and are chastised by most churches. My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLancer Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Most Klan members are going to be random Protestant (non-practicing) or atheist/agnostic. Or maybe they have their own little personal messed up religion Funny you mentioned that.. Heard of neo-pagan religions? Not strangely enough, they seem to be popular with racists, ultra-nationalists, white supremacists etc., doesn't mean Odin is actually a racist and wont let black people or samurais into Valhalla, or that Ares really despises greeks and non-romans... Hatred/ignorance and barbarism have little to do with religion and more with the people behind those ideas. Hindu Terrorists : Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) I don't agree at all. LTTE is a legitimate resistance front against obvious oppression of minority ethnic groups in Sri Lanka, giant corruption, robbing of natural resources... If anything, the SL army should be labeled terrorist, it's a national army and tortures civilians/hires mercenaries to do bombings in Tamil areas to force them into submission But the other ones you mentioned, agree... (though some people would disagree as IRA being viewed as a terrorist organisation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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