Does Money Realy Equal Happiness?

[Tim]

"Money makes the world go around"

 

 

 

a common quote some hear but is it true? throught the times of Runescape mnay players both old and new play for fun, but what has happened to it is my question?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Years ago, many players could only afford such materials as Adamant or Rune if they had the money. Castle wars was a place were being rich wasnt an opression, Skills were fun, an most of all players didnt yell at others for being poor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

#-o Wow, what happened there?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its 2008, Jagex returned a alternate version of Player Killing to us, we have more equipment then the Spanish Fleet and the Mini Games have become competative. lets see whats changed:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mini Games: Such games as Castle Wars, Fighting Pits and Clan Wars, used to be fun "Back Then" but thanks to the aid of Ancient Magicks, Godswords and Dark Bows, its become competative of wealth. Players will yell at you if your wearing simple Dragonhide, under Lv 80 with no high skills or simply your first time. You think you go there to have fun and ENJOY the game but in the end, you get frustrated by the fact you cant have fun because Richer players are insulting you for not meeting their amends. Yet, if you're successful they will yell at you even more with the claim in their mind "I Have better Armor/Weapons/Skills", it seems Tactics was quite clearly "Throw'n out the Window" to them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Skills: Everyone loves them, others dont. I personally enjoy Defence, Agility and Farming and amongst all players theres a variety of skills they may hate or enjoy. but over the past 2 years from the realease of Skill Capes, its turned into a race to see "Who has a better Cape". People buy "Easy Skills" such as Fetching, Firemaking and Cooking because all you need is money to get that 99 Fast. Players who do the skills out of enjoyment have turned sour from others bragging about getting a 99 first. once more, money may have got YOU a 99 skill but did it realy bring you happiness of achieving a goal or did you only do it just for some Canvas with a painting of an icon on the back and an Emote to go with it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Friendship and Clans: Possibly the very backbone of your Runescape life, having friends and being in a clan of those you enjoy being with. but now thanks to Skill Capes, High Powered Armor and some Over Powered Clumps of metal known as the Godswords, things have taken a bit of a spin. Im only Lv 109, nothing fancy, no high level skills, just playing for 7 years and going at my own pace, but if Iwere to gain entrance into a clan, i'd be pushing it. Most clans i see aren't Australian based so it makes time zones a problem, but the Requirements for someone of my Combat Level or even Higher/Lower to join make it limiting even more. Clans requiring a 90+/99 Skill for Combat, Total Level thats hard to obtain, and most of all your Equipment. some cannot join clans because they cant afford Godswords, all they want to do is have fun and enjoy the game with those of simular levels, but they cant because they cannot afford or given the chance to try and obtain one. Now, you as a fellow community tell me: Is being Rich the #1 thing you must be upon Runescape now? or like Jagex's real plan 8+ years ago the same: "Having Fun and Meeting new people."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the end, is having a nice little sum fine or must you have Billions just to make you seem High N' Mighty along with your Ego and Skills as i've sadly seen with some players.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Discuss, im quite interested in this "Story" for the past few months and your response upon it.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

Wealth in this game gets you much, much farther than just having fun in this game, so I can see why players believe that money = happiness. However, I disagree with the principle -- as long as I'm enjoying playing the game, who cares if I don't have a Godsword at level 127?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It boils down to the kind of person you ask. Those that are in it to get a lot of enjoyment in a little time believe that money is happiness; those that prefer to enjoy playing the game rather than grinding through it would believe otherwise.

[Seraphyna]

No, but it sure helps lol. Honestly, I get more enjoyment out of getting 99 in a skill than getting lots of money. However, I really do want some more expensive items, but having them doesn't matter so much because they're expensive, just because I like them.

[Miner52289]

I like having money. It felt awesome when I first bought my DFS. I went on a Bronze Dragon task to charge it up and buying something so expensive but cool just thrilled me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's not like money is everything to me, but I like gaining money so that I can try out the really high-end gear. I never thought I'd see the day when I could afford to use a godsword but that day has come and passed thanks in part to that market crash in early September :thumbsup: (still no godsword, got Bandos Chestplate and Bandos Tassets instead).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My next goal is to basically max out my ranging gear. I can easily afford snakeskin boots, dragonhide, archer ring, etc. but I'm waiting to have a few extra million sitting around before I buy Robin Hood and Ranger Boots.

[DreamReaper]

Never has, never will. I'm not going to do something I don't find fun just to see benefits from it later. If I wanted that, I'd just do my homework or work for money in real life. Games are supposed to be "fun", not grindfests for weeks and weeks, and then have fun for a couple of hours before grinding again because you want something else. Whatever I do, I'd do even if I gained nothing from it. The worth of your knowledge and experience, cannot be measured by mere numbers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sure some of the fun is seeing yourself progress through the levels or amassing more gp; but where does that get you? When you max out all the skills at 200m xp and have enough money to buy out every item on Runescape, what do you do then? Do you play minigames? Nope, no challenge. Your armadyl godsword and nearly endless supply of barrages destroy everyone in your path. Do you pk? Again, no challenge. You died and lost over 200m in gear? No matter, you have enough to last a life time. Well do you hang out with friends? What friends? You spent all your time training and grinding that you never had the chance to talk to anyone face to face, and those you did only like you for your money. Well, I guess it's time for you to quit. Of course, it would have all been worth it; if only you stopped to smell the roses and enjoyed your stay in Runescape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its 2008, Jagex returned a alternate version of Player Killing to us, we have more equipment then the Spanish Fleet and the Mini Games have become competative. lets see whats changed:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mini Games: Such games as Castle Wars, Fighting Pits and Clan Wars, used to be fun "Back Then" but thanks to the aid of Ancient Magicks, Godswords and Dark Bows, its become competative of wealth. Players will yell at you if your wearing simple Dragonhide, under Lv 80 with no high skills or simply your first time. You think you go there to have fun and ENJOY the game but in the end, you get frustrated by the fact you cant have fun because Richer players are insulting you for not meeting their amends. Yet, if you're successful they will yell at you even more with the claim in their mind "I Have better Armor/Weapons/Skills", it seems Tactics was quite clearly "Throw'n out the Window" to them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is exactly why I stopped most forms of PvP combat after the release of God Wars and retired to the safe, mature, totally skill-dependent minigame of barbarian assault.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Skills: Everyone loves them, others dont. I personally enjoy Defence, Agility and Farming and amongst all players theres a variety of skills they may hate or enjoy. but over the past 2 years from the realease of Skill Capes, its turned into a race to see "Who has a better Cape". People buy "Easy Skills" such as Fetching, Firemaking and Cooking because all you need is money to get that 99 Fast. Players who do the skills out of enjoyment have turned sour from others bragging about getting a 99 first. once more, money may have got YOU a 99 skill but did it realy bring you happiness of achieving a goal or did you only do it just for some Canvas with a painting of an icon on the back and an Emote to go with it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If there is one update that "ruined Runescape" it was skillcapes. I hate those stupid pieces of trash more than it is humanly possible to hate. If I ever get a skillcape, I will never wear it unless I need the prayer or defence bonuses. The fire cape easily beats skillcapes in all other areas. Hell, I'll probably never even buy them. I could care less if you knew I had 99 in [insert stat here] because 99 is just a number. It doesn't matter. At all. It doesn't give any advantage over 98 (except hp, construction, and to a lesser degree, agility.) Skillcapes turned the somewhat respectable skills of cooking, fletching, and firemaking into stupidities, noob skills. And then there were those people that got harder 99's just for the capes, like farming, runecrafting, and slayer. They were respected because they had hard 99 skills. If it was before skill capes, no one would've given a rat's [wagon] about their stats because they didn't care.

 

 

 

No skill is "hard", no skill deserves respect for attaining a certain level in it. If you need a cape to make you feel like you "achieved" something. Or you think a cape will bring you respect from people; you need serious help.

[Reztral]

In real life, I think that money can make you somewhat happier, in that you don't have to worry about getting food or other stuff. This applies to Runescape as well, as it is very frustrating not being about to buy anything, whether it be armor or materials for training a skill, so money can definitely increase your happiness, although it isn't the only factor. All in all, it is all relative because what makes one person happy may not make another person happy.

[Wizz]

I really do hate it when a Godsword Passes by in in Castle Wars and the nhe gets angry when I Snare him. Then calls me a " No lifing nerd with no money".

 

 

 

But I've been happy with the amount of money I get in RS, I usally just have about 200k normally. The most I ever had was 2m, and that was when I got lucky in TT and was Hunting on the Side. Also people think I am lying when they ask me for my Total Level, that I am too low and now thanks to the Pking update that shows you what you are if you use summoning they now call me a summoning nub. I love hunting and magic here and there even though sometimes I hunt the tiniest things that don't give me that much EXP (Butterflies and Imps) and I alch alot. But then sometimes some snubby person with a Godsword with Bandos or Arma Armour passes by, don't get me wrong not all are like that and some are nice (Especially Da Latios<3: ) but I get pestered by the Minority who Show off and Critizise others.

[nickeley102]

"Money makes the world go around"

 

 

 

Skills: Everyone loves them, others dont.

 

 

 

sorry, that stuff just cracks me up,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

OT: money equals exp in runescape, so its indistinguishable from skills, unless its used for items to show off which i think is becoming less and less common

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you will get a range of replies to this, i hope it doesnt digress into an argument

[Tim]

 

"Money makes the world go around"

 

 

 

Skills: Everyone loves them, others dont.

 

 

 

sorry, that stuff just cracks me up,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

OT: money equals exp in runescape, so its indistinguishable from skills, unless its used for items to show off which i think is becoming less and less common

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you will get a range of replies to this, i hope it doesnt digress into an argument

 

 

 

same, its more of a topic on opinions. and simular to lovepanda86, its good to have some money for comfort things but you dont need over priced objects to enjoy or make tons of cash for show (unless they make a "Cape of Wealth")

[Dragon_lord]

"There are some things in life that money can't buy, for everything else there's MasterCard" :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well you can argue that a very rich man that knows no one he can trust and has no one that loves him will never be happy. But if a you have a tight-knit family that hasn't a penny to its name to pay for necessities (and what if one of them is seriously ill, how will they pay for medical treatment?) then I don't see how they can be happy either.

 

 

 

I'm using the above examples to say that even though money can't "buy happiness" I do not believe it is not possible without it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In RuneScape millions of gp are required for us to be able to buy raw material and save us the pain of getting them, useful equipment that will make us more effective in combat, and just about everything else that will make our gaming experience less grindy more fun.

 

 

 

Sure, a player can get all those things by themselves and get a sense of accomplishment (and be happy they saved millions) but the time it would take could have been better used doing something enjoyable. This is after all a game, meant to be for fun and a "sense of accomplishment" isn't that important here.

[calvinfh]

money dosent bring you happiness, but it takes money to get happiness. most of the time.

[badlilmonkey]

wow :shock: i dont think i have the effort to write a thesis essay on something like runescape, especially when its not graded or anything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

anyways, i dont think wealth can bring you happiness because with all the money i can have, im still seeking entertainment and such from castle wars, pest control and anything else that can fill my boredom. but dont be way too serious, its just a bunch of pixels :mrgreen: be more concerned about real life instead :wall:

[Metalmelleni1]

I can see your point very clearly matthew but It doesnt really affect me.But there is one thing that might be related to it that I feel,when I played runescape around 2 years ago,I always had this certain feeling of fun and companionship,now that Im back that feeling is gone.I dont know what got rid of it but its just gone,and Im sure many will agree that runescape "back in the day" was much better than now.Money is a big possibility yes but other things too.

[Carl]

Okay there's no question about it. Money is necessary in RuneScape whether you like it or not. To have alot of it is always better. I know, personally, that having Money (Gold) on RuneScape makes me happy. Yes, some aspects to the game have changed because of this but they were always bound to happen. Having the best armour for the particular task or being able to afford the most effecient training method is ALWAYS nice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Conclusion, Money does equal happiness. It may not make anyone a nicer person but who cares, it's only a game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Offtopic: Why do people jump on the train and say "Fletching, Firemaking and Cooking". Just because those 3 are buyable means NOTHING. Crafting, Prayer, Construction, Ranged etc. Are alot easier to get. :|

[mervinator_9]

"Money makes the world go around"

 

 

 

And heres me thinking its cause we're rotating on a fixed axis,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, I getting bored with money in Rs personally i never seem to actually do anything to make it but always seems to have some, sounds like a lame reason to dislike money but its taking the fun out of achieving something. w/e that last statment was weird but my opinion not the less, I guess i just need a new goal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For me Money, Items and Skills have all fallen into the same bag, I like striving to achieve them but i once i get them they well kinda hollow and unforfilled. Theres always a new goal or a bigger fish, something which made we love this game for so long now just makes the experience exhausting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway self-physcological-assement aside I would probably come to the conclusion for me money just doesnt buy happiness,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

maybe more of it will :XD:

[BabyPunchers]

Money doesn't buy happiness. Money buys a monkey riding a tricycle. And if that doesn't make you happy well then you're [bleep]ed up.

[tintin113]

Money doesn't buy happiness. Money buys a monkey riding a tricycle. And if that doesn't make you happy well then you're [bleep] up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hahaha! :lol:

[Michael]

Money buys skills, which in turn can make people happy.

[deathfish27]

Money isn't the route of all happiness, but if you have lot's of money you can buy new items that are fun to play around with. So, money can = some more fun, but it certainly isn't a requirement to enjoy runescape.

[hellbellz]

No [cabbage] it does.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The hell are you gonna do in this game without money? Cut some wood or mine some ore, that's mad boring.

[psvstef]

No [cabbage] it does.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The hell are you gonna do in this game without money? Cut some wood or mine some ore, that's mad boring.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i agree

[D Jay99]

Sometimes I wish I was a bit better at sticking to money making.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Other than that, I've always been perfectly happy with my under 20m bank worth. :D

[JustAGamer]

Money doesn't equal happiness, but hitting a 70 with the ags you just bought does. :thumbsup:

[Yomyth105]

stats = money

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

money = stats

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the 2 relate to each other but overall stats r most important because it can get u the money. the money just makes leveling faster and easier.

[highlanders]

Money doesn't bring happiness, but it does bring satisfaction.