ski1lz0wner Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 does anybody remember back when farming was released the farming poll which was mysteriously hidden?? the results the large majority disliked farming so jagex hid the poll results and have long since removed all evidence of its existence so anyone have any extra knowledge on this or thoughts they wish to share? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulAttacker Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Yes, such a poll existed, but I don't see any reason why this matters over 3 years after farming was released. The poll was created prematurely, before people had the chance to thoroughly test out the farming skill and figure out the benefits it could have, and the results of the poll reflected just that, so Jagex hid it. 11th to 99 Summoning85th to 99 Runecrafting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski1lz0wner Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 whats the point in a poll if you cant accept the results?? i find farming just as boring as it was 3 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulli23 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 whats the point in a poll if you cant accept the results?? i find farming just as boring as it was 3 years ago What a point of showing off the results to the outside world - anypoll can be hidden in my opinion once all votes are "inside". It's not like you have any direct influence over JAGEX actions anyways! The only ones who need to know the results are the people at jagex' headquarters: and they probably have seen it! First they came to fishingand I didn't speak out because I wasn't fishing Then they came to the yewsand I didn't speak out because I didn't cut yews Then they came for the oresand I didn't speak out because I didn't collect ores Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski1lz0wner Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 so why hide the 1 negative poll? why not hide all the polls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obidiah Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 well what do you think they should have done? It seems a lot of people at the time thought farming should have been a skill where you 1)plant a seed 2)wait ten second for it to grow 3)pick the plant 4)go to step 1 I.e yet another grind skill where you stay at one spot and do the same thing over and over again for as many hours as you can bear to. Theres already plenty enough of that in the game. Go mining or woodcutting if you like that sort of thing. Farming requires a bit more planning and once you've done that planning you get to play another part of the game or even something in real life while your plants grow. In my opinion much more fun, much more variation than many other skills. Changing it from that would seem to me to be caving to the mindless masses who don't want to engage their brains to do skilling. I would object strongly if today they changed farming to the way that many were demanding around it's release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeWelshGuy Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 so why hide the 1 negative poll? why not hide all the polls? Because the results were misleading, people simply saw the skill, planted their potatoes, realised that it took some time, and then rated the skill as crap. Besides, it's their poll, they can do what they like with it. Retired Tip.It Crew Mapper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski1lz0wner Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 then whats to say other polls arent misleading?? you are simply speaking of your high opion of farming not the vast majority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blingkachi50 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 then whats to say other polls arent misleading?? you are simply speaking of your high opion of farming not the vast majority 99% of the people that hate farming are so ignorant that they believe you need to stand around watching the plant grow. The other 1% are too poor to get decent farm xp, or too lazy to go plant new trees 10 hrs later. [blingkachi50] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervinator_9 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Seems to me someone doesnt like farming, and as a result decided to remind everyone that at some point most people didn't like farming. -.- Farming aint exactly my number one past time, but i realise it has qualities many other skills lack. Like needing to plan ahead and managing more than one location at a time. If jagex took a poll now then i bet the results would still come out as farming being negative just because most people dont understand it that well. So they sure as hell werent going to put everyone off doing it by posting the results when they were negative. Plus would you really want to parade around a message saying "We just spend months making a skill and it apparently sucks"? Theres a fine line between not listening and not caring,I like to think I walk this line every day. Pinning blame on Jagex is like trying to put pants on an old man. You both know he needs them, but he'll just keep dancing around, avoiding them at all costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Den Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 When i just had started farming, and the first 50 levels of farming, I found VERY boring. Very very boring infact. :lol: For some strange reason though, the higher farming lvel I got, the more I liked farming. Now I really like farming. :mrgreen: ........::::: Rainy's YouTube Channel - Rainy's Twitter - Rainy's Facebook - Rainy's DeviantArt - Rainy's Tumblr - Rainy's Tip.It Profile :::::......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus_Flesh Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 whats the point in a poll if you cant accept the results?? i find farming just as boring as it was 3 years ago Then you are still too ignorant to realize the benefits it offers.. If you farm correctly, you can level effortlessly, and only take a few minutes to make a nice profit from herbs, or get a couple thousand XP a day from trees in only a minute or two. Think of how many people hated summoning when it was released (yes, I realize the familiars pretty much sucked at the time, and everyone believed it was 'fake combat levels', but it was because the ignorant had the mindset that the skill was completely pointless), but after people realize the benefits, it became very popular and useful to many RuneScape related tasks. Farming requires a bit more planning and once you've done that planning you get to play another part of the game or even something in real life while your plants grow. In my opinion much more fun, much more variation than many other skills. Changing it from that would seem to me to be caving to the mindless masses who don't want to engage their brains to do skilling. I would object strongly if today they changed farming to the way that many were demanding around it's release. Hmm.. Someone who actually realizes how Jagex strayed away from another grind skill.. They couldn't possibly be smart enough to do that on purpose, could they? Or maybe everyone else is just too stuborn to realize that Jagex created the skill to be based on planning, and time management? That's why the poll results were so poor; the vast majority of RuneScape lacks planning and time management. Not that it's a 'boring skill'. In most people who have actually realized this, a lot of people find Farming to be a nice break from other skills (which you may multi-task with Farming! [No way!] ) and usually even more enjoyable. ~Zackdt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintin113 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Was it a guarenteed content poll? If not they have every right to use the results as they please. Thanks to Quarra for the awesome sig!Xbox360 Gamertag = Tintin113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsanity Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 People voted and didn't really take the time to understand the benefits you can reap from Farming. A lot of Runescape players think that only skills where you get immediate exp and immediate rewards are the only skills that are worth to train. However, I'd like to point out that for the last 3 months I have been farming snapdragons between slayer tasks and such, and I have made over 30M from it. It's easy, fast, and profitable. If that's not a skill worth to train then I don't know what is. Yes, you don't have to like a skill, but when people say it has no benefits or is "useless" I just laugh at them knowing how morbidly wrong they are. |2,300+ Total|138 Combat|12 Lvl 99 Skills|99 Slayer| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mylez Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I remember this poll, and was apprehensive myself about the release of Farming. I didn't enjoy it for about a year after its release, then fell in love with it once I had a large collection of seeds gathered from MTK, thieving etc. :lol: I see no reason why Jagex should hide it afterwards, but then I suppose it could lead to questions being asked regarding Jagex's updates and feedback :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyderownzyou Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 tbh the poll was released too early...it took me a year's membership to start to enjoy the skill before i hated it with a passion :oops: now I farm around shark fishing/slaying and it is slowly going up (52 now :? ) definitely easy to level skill, plant fruit tree/herbs before i go work, when i get back normally 3-5k xp to collect and lots of ranarrs 8-) :lol: You only live twice. Once when you are born and once when you look death in the face. Do not fear Death. Death is always at our side. When we show fear, it jumps at us faster than light. But, if we do not show fear, it casts its eye upon us gently and then guides us into infinity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melos Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 so why hide the 1 negative poll? why not hide all the polls? Because the results were misleading, people simply saw the skill, planted their potatoes, realised that it took some time, and then rated the skill as crap. Besides, it's their poll, they can do what they like with it. This. "To do all that one is able to do, is to be a man; to do all that one would like to do, is to be a god." - Napoleon I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miner52289 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 then whats to say other polls arent misleading?? you are simply speaking of your high opion of farming not the vast majority 99% of the people that hate farming are so ignorant that they believe you need to stand around watching the plant grow. The other 1% are too poor to get decent farm xp, or too lazy to go plant new trees 10 hrs later. What he said. It's just that so many people are too stupid to realize it takes, what, 15-20 minutes(?) to go plant all 4 allotments and My Arm's patch and then either go wait two hours for herbs and everything to grow. During that ~100 minutes you can OMG do something useful IRL or go do a slayer task. Too often I see people just standing around watering at every stage. Farmers IRL don't even do that, they just spray pesticides or whatever and water once daily, go inside, watch football or the news idk then get up again the next day. They don't sit 24/7 out in the cornfield making sure bugs don't touch the plants. Slayer DropsDragon Chainbody (dust devil), Dragon Platelegs x2, Dragon Plateskirt x3, Dragon Boots x38, Dragon Med Helm x5, Dragon Spear x3, Shield Left Half x4Staff of Light x2, Abyssal Whip x16, Dark Bow x17, Granite Maul x17, Focus Sight, Hexcrest x2, Black Mask x4, Leaf-bladed Sword, Mystic x31, Obsidian x13, Brine Sabre x2, Spirit Shield, Dragonstone x5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenkana Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Farming's still a meh kinda skill for me. And old news is ancient. Like mesozoic. If the CORPORAL beast is this hard, imagine how hard a GENERAL or COLONEL beast would be. a corporal is not even an admirable rank in armies that use that ranking system. Yeah, it is a pking minigame, so any arguments anybody makes will probably be biased.The best way this will end :Everybody just says,"I'm not arguing with you anymore, goodbye."The worst way this will end: I don't really know, psychological warfare? Worldwide thermonuclear war? Pie eating contest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berserking1 Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 then whats to say other polls arent misleading?? you are simply speaking of your high opion of farming not the vast majority 99% of the people that hate farming are so ignorant that they believe you need to stand around watching the plant grow. The other 1% are too poor to get decent farm xp, or too lazy to go plant new trees 10 hrs later. i like farming and i can afford to level it, so where on your graph do i fit into i'm sure if you had a poll about you and people voted badly against you in some way you would also try to hide it anyway, i don't blame jagex for removing self incriminating information about their game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyderownzyou Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 then whats to say other polls arent misleading?? you are simply speaking of your high opion of farming not the vast majority 99% of the people that hate farming are so ignorant that they believe you need to stand around watching the plant grow. The other 1% are too poor to get decent farm xp, or too lazy to go plant new trees 10 hrs later. i like farming and i can afford to level it, so where on your graph do i fit into i'm sure if you had a poll about you and people voted badly against you in some way you would also try to hide it anyway, i don't blame jagex for removing self incriminating information about their game i think he was in reference to the people that hate farming, he never mentioned the percentage that like it : and i'm sure if they left the poll a few weeks - month, and did as evaluation after people had chance to understand skill there would be closer to a 50/50 split on opinion, the 50% that hate would fit into bling's 100%, and the 50% that like would be people like you and me :roll: You only live twice. Once when you are born and once when you look death in the face. Do not fear Death. Death is always at our side. When we show fear, it jumps at us faster than light. But, if we do not show fear, it casts its eye upon us gently and then guides us into infinity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berserking1 Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 my b, i missed that part :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddo89 Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Actually, I think you guys missed a major reason for the negative result. If I say the word "summoning", you immediately think of cool power beasts of some sort, even before it was introduced to RS. It is something cool to most people, regardless of whether or not it could work in RS. But if I say "farming", what do you think of. Days and days in vegetable fields (a plate of it is bad enough for some people), long hours in the cold far away from cities and into the country back. Maybe a lot of cows and dirt and hardwork. There is a very negative perception of the name, this attitude is taken into the game. Of course it does not help by the fact that most of the early rewards is meaningless, unattractive and downright slow in Xp. A lot of people still dislike farming, because it is called farming. There are many different reasons for the hate at the start -Negative image of the word -Lack of early rewards -Misconception of the nature of the skill Templar GuardiansWhen are trying to lend something, the word to use is borrow. Not barrows, which is a mini-game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGunitfan10 Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 I agree farming can be extremely boring IF you do not know what you are doing. From 1-32 I do not know how i survived. I remember just sitting there waiting for my potatoes to grow for like 4 hours and I only grew like 4 levels so i decided to rake the weeds which only got me like 2 or so. AFter i got to 32 (rannars) i realized how profitable farming is, and I started farming rannars and I think i grew 2 trees from 32 farming to where I am now which is like 53 farming. Just want to get members back and like power farm herbs until 62 then MORE PROFIT : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 then whats to say other polls arent misleading?? you are simply speaking of your high opion of farming not the vast majority Well I'm sure if other results were 'misleading' they would have hidden more polls since then. I seriously cannot begin to fathom why you're so worked up about one poll. Who cares, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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