FooK-A-Ji Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 I see you chose to take my reply as a personal attack at your own intellect. Yes its pretty obvious they should consider feedback. Are you saying they don't? I also don't see why you are explaining the consequences of not listening to players as that too, is pretty obvious. I also perfectly understand the logistics of capitalism, and attempts of belittling others usually gets you nowhere on the internet. But do you understand where I am getting at at all? If not I'm happy to explain again. Yes, every player is entitled the right to voice their opinion, be they free players or paying players. However the trend seems to be that most paying Scapers feel like they never get heard.. Could it possibly be because they are simply 1 voice out of millions? Or is it because Jagex doesn't care ? Usually the player will tend to choose the latter (not caring part). Which is wrong, and merely a sign of egocentricity. Yes, Jagex should strive after pleasing every player possible, and I'm sure they do. However not all updates are meant for the entertainment of the general public, and that has alot to do with "logistics of capitalism". So sometimes they must ignore the repercussions from players as you mentioned, in the name of capitalism. This usually gets translated into something along the lines of "jagex does not care about us". See what I mean? And last but not least, it is the players own responsibility to find entertainment within the content made available to them. p.s. personal attacks would be appreciated as long as you do it over PM's another time. :) Although I'm sure we at some degree really agree with eachother, as I, like you, agree that Jagex has a certain responsibility as well to please consumers. Just not in the way that the consumers are to be allowed to decide anything. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3hitm4g3u Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 He needs to bring out strength boosting armour for 1 defence :thumbup: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaael Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 I think he's doing great. The little things they've fixed are great for the most part, but I think my favorite thing about him so far has been that he reaches out to the community. Listening to what we want and trying to talk to us is really cool 5,693rd to 99 Slayer on 10/08/2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acenator Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Mod MMG is doing good so far. The small upgrades/fixes were well overdue and the new openness of Jagex seems promising. However, I would like to see more old content (as in useless areas/cities) updated so that people have a reason to use them. All the small fixes are great, don't get me wrong, but I just feel that, in a "year of upgrades" (or whatever he called it), thye should be upgrading large pieces of content as well as small ones. Admittedly, he hasn't had much time to go after these sorts of upgrades and they are working on revamping BH. I just want to see much much much more of that sort of thing. > SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue > 0;0 rows returnedThere's no place like 127.0.0.1There are only 10 types of peoplein this world: those who understandbinary and those who don't.This statement is false.$DO || ! $DO ; trytry: command not found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 He needs to bring out strength boosting armour for 1 defence :thumbup: . Not going to happen. Good armour is going to need good Defence, by definition. Mod MMG is doing good so far. The small upgrades/fixes were well overdue and the new openness of Jagex seems promising. However, I would like to see more old content (as in useless areas/cities) updated so that people have a reason to use them. All the small fixes are great, don't get me wrong, but I just feel that, in a "year of upgrades" (or whatever he called it), thye should be upgrading large pieces of content as well as small ones. Admittedly, he hasn't had much time to go after these sorts of upgrades and they are working on revamping BH. I just want to see much much much more of that sort of thing. I strongly agree with this, but I suspect that the 'Upgrade Year' mission statement was only thought up at or slightly before the start of the year. This might mean that the 'Upgrades', as we move through the year, are going to come in with a lower frequency but larger clumps, because it's going to take significantly more effort and time to do them. This would actually be a good strategy, they would then be able to cover all aspects of the game methodically, from the nearly insignificant to the massive. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmesh Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Honestly I think it's just more crap their feeding us. Runescape is going to continue to do the same things it always has whether they have a new "CEO" or not. As for the new big man in town Andrew and Paul aren't going anywhere so does it really matter? Shout to LowFatMilk for the sig! Doin your body and sig good :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_Hate_Libs Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 He's an inmate running the assylum. -.- This website and its contents are copyright © 1999 - 2010 Jagex Ltd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3hitm4g3u Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 He needs to bring out strength boosting armour for 1 defence :thumbup: . Not going to happen. Good armour is going to need good Defence, by definition. Forget the defensive side of armour, I just want more boosts to my strength bonus \ . I'll take negative defence bonuses for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Redhead Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 I'm not going to give in a round of applause for my full support yet, but I beleive he is doing a good job in terms of opening up to the people. This is the first time I've seen them actually talk to players and specifically answer questions. I shall wait and see how the year goes before I say any real definate answer. Gained first quest cape on 3/22/09! Gained 99 fishing 5/22/09!I forgot when I got 99 cooking!Proud member of Jovial Rovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niperwiper Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I'm rather disappointed in what Runescape's updates have become. The development diary was a huge disappointment. We've had a couple of buttons and good fixes, which I appreciate, but overall he's yet to deliver anything that promising besides his words. The biggest addition to the game (the Bandos agility course) was nerfed in a day to become a mere side thought. Which cries out to me that this is the same [cabbage], different day. Truthscape Lover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdoctorsir Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 While I agree it is impossible to please everyone all of the time, it is the obivious goal to please as many as possible, I personnally am completely content (well not really but ok with) the tweaks to the game, but i'm not exactly a huge fan of the new head. He know a year of tweaks is going to be unpopular (face it a lot of people are upset about it - if you are have a cookie =D> ) so he adapted being a very positive face of jagex (although i've never seen a picture ;) ) in my opinion (i'm sure many people disagree) the new upbeat face of jagex is because the update year would probably go over bad without the reaching out to the players. In my opinion, hes doing many things right, both in a business sense, and a player appealing sense. As the saying goes: what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, i disagree i can think of plenty of injuries that won't make you stronger. yup.... runescape is pretty stressful December, 19, 2009 (12/19/09)- 99defense- first cape- cb level 117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakolord7 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 So far I think he has done good. Join Future Update News! The longest running update speculation thread on the RSOF, currently on its 24 EditionQFC 16-17-671-59680498Thanks to Killerwat for the sig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGmaestro Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 yes, 2009 is supposed to be a year of updates or whatever MMG decided to call it, but please dont complain about how there havent been any major updates this year. the year has just started, weve got 9 more months to go, and you should be playing the game for the content already in it, instead of playing it just for new things. also i should point out that MMG has been pretty vague as to what updates would be happening this year (hence no more bts). so maybe its not a good idea to expect tons and tons of new crap added in. personally i think the new ceo is doing a good job of cleaning up all the minor issues, which at first, might seem pretty lame, but when all are added up, it should (hopefully) make the game much more enjoyable for everyone. (except for the people who can complain about everything) :shame: sure i enjoy big updates as much as the next guy, but for now, im ok with small fixes, and maybe a couple of new additions later in the year. and remember, weve got 9 more months in the year, so hold your horses.. -.- all in all good job so far MMG :thumbup: Darwin's Radio, stairway to stardom 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I think he's doing a great job. The tweaks to old content are going a long way and I just love getting suprise updates. Not to mention it keeps everyone on an equal playing field when the updates come. The ingame BTS was nice until people whined about not getting in which caused him to close questioning for the moment. He is realy trying to improve our playing experience but giving us quality updates over alot of updates with bugs in them. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_klutz Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Who really cares. If you know anything about how a company works it is like this. Stockholders-->Board of Directors-->CEO Paul and Andrew (As far as I know) still own the majority of the stock so you can say whatever you want but it is still mainly their company. Even if they don't though the CEO ultimately has to answer to what the BOD wants. He is really just a public icon and figure head. If you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature. ^^^At least I'm not the only crazy one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgelemmons Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I love him. Jagex is finally paying attention to detail :P I know a lot of people complain about the lack of new content, but that will come soon once the current content is fixed and improved. Thanks to Uno for the awsome sig <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGmaestro Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Jagex is finally paying attention to detail I know a lot of people complain about the lack of new content, but that will come soon once the current content is fixed and improved. exactly :) Darwin's Radio, stairway to stardom 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reztral Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I'm glad that Jagex is focusing on updating some of the older content or issues (random events for example). Getting new content (almost) every week can get overwhelming sometimes. I would rather get annoying or bothersome things fixed instead of getting a new quest or minigame every week. --8727th person to achieve 99 Fishing on 8/19/2008----6012th person to achieve 99 Thieving on 10/12/2008--R.I.P. October 31, 2013 99 Fletching 7/16/2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enipeus Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 i'm really happy at least random events are gone that was needed. most other ones dont even effect me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forerunner Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 His open approach is quite a change from what we've expected from Jagex. I definitely think he's done a good job, & at the rate the game is improving, he's on a roll. I'd much rather prefer a small load of 'improvement' updates rather than one massive update littered with flaws. Obviously he will never be perfect (nothing ever is), & while this is the case people will always complain & overlook the good things to see the bad. Only fear God,Know the weapons of the weak,The weakness of the hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4ngewarlord Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 not many big updates but he is reaching out more. i gusse im on the fence. Gamertag: EFs Predator.Games I play: Halo 3, Halo wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_klutz Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 His open approach is quite a change from what we've expected from Jagex. I definitely think he's done a good job, & at the rate the game is improving, he's on a roll. I'd much rather prefer a small load of 'improvement' updates rather than one massive update littered with flaws. Obviously he will never be perfect (nothing ever is), & while this is the case people will always complain & overlook the good things to see the bad. We playing the same game dude? There have been more bugs and flaws in the past three months than in years. If you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature. ^^^At least I'm not the only crazy one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomy Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 His open approach is quite a change from what we've expected from Jagex. I definitely think he's done a good job, & at the rate the game is improving, he's on a roll. I'd much rather prefer a small load of 'improvement' updates rather than one massive update littered with flaws. Obviously he will never be perfect (nothing ever is), & while this is the case people will always complain & overlook the good things to see the bad. We playing the same game dude? There have been more bugs and flaws in the past three months than in years. He doesn't do everything, you can't blame him for the bugs and flaws and such which are probaly inevidable with these sorts of updates anyway. I mean it's not like they arn't trying to rush everything, look how they've held back Mobilising Armies and the "150th quest" so they're perfect. Doomy edit: I like sheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexiledRazz Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Yeah, i like what he has done with RS. I only have one problem though. Bugs. I wish that they would fix bugs as soon as they're found. -As the big with the new prayer button renders it useless until they fix it. -Also, the bug with the new moving system, when you're being piled on by players/NPC. If there is something in front of you, you have to manually click around it. Like a barricade in castle wars. -The holding emote for weapons that should be held over the shoulder, not with both hands. -And the bank icon glitch... I wish these would have been fixed right when they were reported, but jagex seems too busy. :wall: But, if you take these out of the picture, i think we have a good balance. Hexiled Razz. Player since March 8th, 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_klutz Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 His open approach is quite a change from what we've expected from Jagex. I definitely think he's done a good job, & at the rate the game is improving, he's on a roll. I'd much rather prefer a small load of 'improvement' updates rather than one massive update littered with flaws. Obviously he will never be perfect (nothing ever is), & while this is the case people will always complain & overlook the good things to see the bad. We playing the same game dude? There have been more bugs and flaws in the past three months than in years. He doesn't do everything, you can't blame him for the bugs and flaws and such which are probaly inevidable with these sorts of updates anyway. I mean it's not like they arn't trying to rush everything, look how they've held back Mobilising Armies and the "150th quest" so they're perfect. CEO doesn't really do anything. I said this a page back but everybody ignored me. Stockholders-->Board of Directors-->CEO. BTW, you are now making the assumption that the 150th quest and mobilizing armies are both going to be bug free and good. I sincerely doubt that both of them will be received favorably and I bet there is a high chance that they both are soon forgotten about. We are also planning to change the way we communicate with you. We are going to be bringing back Development Diaries but making them more regular and focused on some of the different projects we're currently working on for you. Right, more regular and focused development diaries? We have gotten one and it was crap. We learned that we are getting a dwarf quest.... Great. I don't think many people give a dam when the story line is compared to some others people would like finished. I want to apologise for habitually over-promoting the benefits of membership to our free players. Nice apology when 2 months later a bug occurs that ends up letting F2P get slaughtered by P2P in pvp worlds. A side benefit of this is that we'll be releasing more content which will be a complete surprise to you, so keep your eyes peeled for updates! Nice. I am so surprised by useful updates like the removal of random events. I mean, we had only been asking for this since forever and it has made sense for well over a year? I mean seriously, I don't mean to vilify Mod MMG because he is new but I do expect a little more. He inherited a competent company that has been running a game for 5+ years quite well. It isn't like he was thrust into some crap situation and is being forced to dig his way out. All I am saying is I expected a little more than updates that are simple fixes to problems that have been around for ages. If you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature. ^^^At least I'm not the only crazy one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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