Paperbag Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Lol, I have this feeling Tezz is going to go all out on summoning this coming weekend. Even with the 1.1x its better than just doing some random skill if you no life 1.1x the entire time. Another person to pass my total xp :(*cries* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobgoblinpie Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Lol, I have this feeling Tezz is going to go all out on summoning this coming weekend. Even with the 1.1x its better than just doing some random skill if you no life 1.1x the entire time. Another person to pass my total xp :(*cries* Wouldn't it be better for Tezz (or anyone really) to use bonus xp until at least it goes down to 2 multiplier before training a skill which is stuck at 1.1x? I mean, it's three hours taken away from training summoning, but it's not a slow skill anyway, so using 2.7x-2x could save that time elsewhere. Just a thought. POH Agility Course, Please Support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperbag Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Lol, I have this feeling Tezz is going to go all out on summoning this coming weekend. Even with the 1.1x its better than just doing some random skill if you no life 1.1x the entire time. Another person to pass my total xp :(*cries* Wouldn't it be better for Tezz (or anyone really) to use bonus xp until at least it goes down to 2 multiplier before training a skill which is stuck at 1.1x? I mean, it's three hours taken away from training summoning, but it's not a slow skill anyway, so using 2.7x-2x could save that time elsewhere. Just a thought.Yeah I guess so, thought about that in my head about I posted this lol. He's got all weekend. Might as well do another skill the first few hours then do summ after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emre Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Jebrim. was the cooking gain guy you talked about Past Destiny? He just grabbed the #1 day cooking and got 26m yesterday, and had some 17-20m days before. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamajig Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Zezima has been gaining steady gains for a while. :D http://runetrack.com/profile.php?user=Zezima+ It will be interesting to see if he does anything hardcore on Bxp - admittedly, though, I doubt it, since I suspect he would feel these devalue his hard-earned pixelated pixels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai_tong Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 [hide]meh i quit slaying with no blocks i think :Pdata from 103 task Abberant 2Abby 7Aqua 5Blackdemon 2Black dragon 3Bloodveld 3Blue dragon 1Dagga 4Dbeast 4Desert 5Dust 2Fire1Garg 2Greater 3Hellhound 4Icestryke 7Iron 2Jungle 1Kalphite 1Living rock 4Mages 5Mith 6Nech 7Steels 2Suqua 1Tdog 4Tzaar 5Warped Tortoise 4Waterfiend 2Wyvern 3Total 103Start:12941 pointsFinish:12521Task done : 7 icestryke , 5 mith, 3 black dragons, 1 firegiant , 1 waterfiend, 1 greater, 7 abby, 1 kalphite, 2 dagganoth, 1 tzaar, 1 bloodveld, 2 black demon, 1 garg, 2 dbeast, 1 hh, 4 tdog, 1 warped tort, 2 darkbeast, 1 abberant, 1 aqua, 1 steel, 1 iron my personal blocklist will now be aquanitewarped tortdesertmagesliving rock cancel task will be jungle (always) suqua (always) tzaar/dusties/firegiants(most times) wyvern/waterfiends(sometimes) ima afk type of girl =P[/hide] slay junk post also dont think zarfots back since he didnt gain any expirience and based on his post on this thread.......it seems he really is done or done playing as competetively as the other players in the top 15 =pThankyou very much :D thats 102 tasks btw ;) The best tasks for someone who cares equally about effigies, charms and slayer are: Black demonBloodveldDark beastsDagganothNechsIce strykesWaterfiendsSteel dragonsHellhoundBlack dragonAberrant spectresMithril dragonsIron dragonsDust devilsSuqathSkeletal WyvernBlue dragonsFire giantsJungle strykesGargoylesGreater demonKalphiteTerror dogAquaniteAbby demonsDesert strykesLiving rocksWarped tortoiseJadSpiritual mages Some of the positions in the list might seem strange. The 1 thing that is wrong is that gold charms are used because the summoning rates in Zarfot's guide use gold charms which puts hellhouds higher up.As a reward for getting the data I will get the summoning rates excluding gold charms if you want. I'm not sure yet how many of the tasks you can afford to skip while still getting enough points but if it is possbile to not do the worst 13 tasks its best to block the ones that are assigned most. Remember that Kuradel gives 27 points per task when you include the bonus 10th and 100th tasks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebrim Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Lol, I have this feeling Tezz is going to go all out on summoning this coming weekend. Even with the 1.1x its better than just doing some random skill if you no life 1.1x the entire time. Another person to pass my total xp :(*cries* Wouldn't it be better for Tezz (or anyone really) to use bonus xp until at least it goes down to 2 multiplier before training a skill which is stuck at 1.1x? I mean, it's three hours taken away from training summoning, but it's not a slow skill anyway, so using 2.7x-2x could save that time elsewhere. Just a thought. Actually it'd be best to finish up the first 10 hours before doing Summoning. That should be obvious and I'm pretty sure Tezz would see that too. -.- Jebrim. was the cooking gain guy you talked about Past Destiny? He just grabbed the #1 day cooking and got 26m yesterday, and had some 17-20m days before. :) Yes, although he's doing worse hours than he was hoping for because of family distractions irl. That day record should've been double what it is now. He's actually been reading this thread lately, so I'll let him post about it. :P Here's his Cooking video: Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 its 28.5 10th and 50th task bonuses :P thats how i only lost like 400ish pts personally a task afkness/length/profit also decides if its good like aquanites take almost an hr but tdogs take 10 mins :P hmm aquanite above abbies/specters how???? whats the verdict on normal tzaar? no charms but could drop effigies 133 149 cbs higher slay exp than aquanites why are jungle strykes so high on list? :P maybe tzaar would be a better block than aqua =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vex Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 What order are those tasks in from top to bottom? Best all-round? There seems to be a high bias towards summoning xp rather than effigies/slayer xp. There is no way aberrants/abby demons would be below jungle strykewyrms lol http://www.[Caution! Jagex Rule Violation].com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 It's hard to make a definite ranking because some tasks are good when combined. For example ice strykes are good slayer xp & effigies & mage xp, but if it's all you did to 200m you'd waste a ton of mage xp and never get close to 200m summoning. That goes for pretty much any task. Black demons seem the most reasonable all-round task. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai_tong Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 The 2 people above posted while I was writing this. its 28.5 10th and 50th task bonuses :P thats how i only lost like 400ish pts personally a task afkness/length/profit also decides if its good like aquanites take almost an hr but tdogs take 10 mins :P hmm aquanite above abbies/specters how???? whats the verdict on normal tzaar? no charms but could drop effigies 133 149 cbs higher slay exp than aquanites why are jungle strykes so high on list? :P maybe tzaar would be a better block than aqua =POh right its every 50th task. Well then that's 28.8 points per task. The formula is very adaptable, you can change it to include profit, afkness and boredom if you rate afk and boredom on a scale of 1-10. As well as that you can also make slayer twice as important as summoning. Comparing spectres and aqua. Aqua have higher xp rate, aqua have double the effigy drop rate, spectres have double the summoning xp rate. They are both a below average task and aqua are assigned more often and they take about the same time to do. I didn't test tzarr because Zarfot did jad tasks I assumed that was better Jungles are a bit below average slayer rate, just below average effigies and way below average summoning. They are very rarely assigned and take an average amount of time to complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vex Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 How are aquanites faster than aberrants xp wise? Are you taking kills per hour into consideration based on their effigy drop rates? aberrants are 600 kills an hour at least, and at 96 combat they'd be around 1300 or so drop rate for effigy. What is the kill rate of aquanites? I honestly can't see how they are better than aberrants in any way. Your formula is either wrong, or you have wrong information for your formula. Another example is dust devils higher than suqah. http://www.[Caution! Jagex Rule Violation].com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai_tong Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Once again the person above posted while I was writing this. What order are those tasks in from top to bottom? Best all-round? There seems to be a high bias towards summoning xp rather than effigies/slayer xp. There is no way aberrants/abby demons would be below jungle strykewyrms lolThey are from the best tasks to the worst with the ones at the bottom being the best to cancel. Best all round would have a good chance of being high up but 1 with a very high slayer rate and effigy rate with no charms dropped could be just as high up. There is no bias to summoning, would you like to see the formula? Those are probably below jungles because of frequency and/or time spent on the task. It's hard to make a definite ranking because some tasks are good when combined. For example ice strykes are good slayer xp & effigies & mage xp, but if it's all you did to 200m you'd waste a ton of mage xp and never get close to 200m summoning. That goes for pretty much any task. Black demons seem the most reasonable all-round task.I don't think you can account for that in any formula but if you needed mage xp and there were 2 tasks that gave good mage xp you could see which to skip. Yes black demons are very well rounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai_tong Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 How are aquanites faster than aberrants xp wise? Are you taking kills per hour into consideration based on their effigy drop rates? aberrants are 600 kills an hour at least, and at 96 combat they'd be around 1300 or so drop rate for effigy. What is the kill rate of aquanites? I honestly can't see how they are better than aberrants in any way. Your formula is either wrong, or you have wrong information for your formula. Another example is dust devils higher than suqah.Ok I realised that the xp rate for spectres I had was wrong. That puts them into 5th best. Do you want to see the formula? And the spreadsheet? I am certain that the formula is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 aquanites are fail exp/hr and take 1hr specters are good and take 25-30 mins :P personally im definately going to get 200m mage on icestryke using effigies on slayer the whole time (more icestryke task near end of slayer when more points accumulated) i hate superheating and that would give a ton of mellee/range left at crawlers but yes they are bad fo summon could also use the melee exp to camp something later after slayer ok tzaar are like a 20-30 min task and give 29-35k an hr so are better than aqua that take 50-1hr and are like 23-26k/hr >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai_tong Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 You can get the task time by xp/hr divided by xp/kill which is kills/hr then divide kills/task by kills/hr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 How are aquanites faster than aberrants xp wise? Are you taking kills per hour into consideration based on their effigy drop rates? aberrants are 600 kills an hour at least, and at 96 combat they'd be around 1300 or so drop rate for effigy. What is the kill rate of aquanites? I honestly can't see how they are better than aberrants in any way. Your formula is either wrong, or you have wrong information for your formula. Another example is dust devils higher than suqah.Ok I realised that the xp rate for spectres I had was wrong. That puts them into 5th best. Do you want to see the formula? And the spreadsheet? I am certain that the formula is correct.Care to explain how aquanites are above abyssal demons? as far as i know, abyssals have higher effigy rate, higher slayer xp and give more summoning xp via charms? You should really post the figures you are using, otherwise it's hard to say where you have missed here. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 How are aquanites faster than aberrants xp wise? Are you taking kills per hour into consideration based on their effigy drop rates? aberrants are 600 kills an hour at least, and at 96 combat they'd be around 1300 or so drop rate for effigy. What is the kill rate of aquanites? I honestly can't see how they are better than aberrants in any way. Your formula is either wrong, or you have wrong information for your formula. Another example is dust devils higher than suqah.Ok I realised that the xp rate for spectres I had was wrong. That puts them into 5th best. Do you want to see the formula? And the spreadsheet? I am certain that the formula is correct.Care to explain how aquanites are above abyssal demons? as far as i know, abyssals have higher effigy rate, higher slayer xp and give more summoning xp via charms? You should really post the figures you are using, otherwise it's hard to say where you have missed here.exactly lol spiritual mages and torts are the only task worse than aquanites... exp wise probably jungle too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst_Gem Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 slay xp wise I get FAR more xp/hr from aquanites than abyssal demons. But then that may be because I don't (can't) use kuradal's dungeon. :P In other news, skiller 703 says he'll be 15th top in xp after bxpw... That's a lot of xp for one weekend lol even if green doesnt log in the whole time. He must have something big planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai_tong Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 You should really post the figures you are using, otherwise it's hard to say where you have missed here. https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?hl=en&key=taNwT7kH7UhHwtJZz3TkBnw&hl=en#gid=1 Its not easy to get 210 figures right. Effigy rates are in effigies per hour Summoning rates include pouch making time Terror dogs and kalphites have 0 effigy drops in several thousand kills in zarfot's slayer guide Sources for figures for calculations for length, effigy drop rates and summoning. quick find code: 98,99,600,61329204http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Kuradelhttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Aquaniteshttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Desert_strykewyrmhttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Hellhoundshttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Jungle_strykewyrmhttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Warped_tortoisehttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Kalphite_Soldierhttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Living_rock_protectorhttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Living_rock_strikerhttp://forum.tip.it/topic/244419-200m-in-all-skills So who would like to check 261 figures and the calculations for 67 of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 You should really post the figures you are using, otherwise it's hard to say where you have missed here. https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?hl=en&key=taNwT7kH7UhHwtJZz3TkBnw&hl=en#gid=1 Its not easy to get 210 figures right. Effigy rates are in effigies per hour Summoning rates include pouch making time Terror dogs and kalphites have 0 effigy drops in several thousand kills in zarfot's slayer guide Sources for figures for calculations for length, effigy drop rates and summoning. quick find code: 98,99,600,61329204http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Kuradelhttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Aquaniteshttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Desert_strykewyrmhttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Hellhoundshttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Jungle_strykewyrmhttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Warped_tortoisehttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Kalphite_Soldierhttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Living_rock_protectorhttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Living_rock_strikerhttp://forum.tip.it/topic/244419-200m-in-all-skills So who would like to check 261 figures and the calculations for 67 of them?kalphite do drop em tdogs idk never had one yet :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai_tong Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 You should really post the figures you are using, otherwise it's hard to say where you have missed here. https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?hl=en&key=taNwT7kH7UhHwtJZz3TkBnw&hl=en#gid=1 Its not easy to get 210 figures right. Effigy rates are in effigies per hour Summoning rates include pouch making time Terror dogs and kalphites have 0 effigy drops in several thousand kills in zarfot's slayer guide Sources for figures for calculations for length, effigy drop rates and summoning. quick find code: 98,99,600,61329204http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Kuradelhttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Aquaniteshttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Desert_strykewyrmhttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Hellhoundshttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Jungle_strykewyrmhttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Warped_tortoisehttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Kalphite_Soldierhttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Living_rock_protectorhttp://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Living_rock_strikerhttp://forum.tip.it/topic/244419-200m-in-all-skills So who would like to check 261 figures and the calculations for 67 of them?kalphite do drop em tdogs idk never had one yet :SI didn't say that they don't drop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GE_Slave_o Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Sorry but that task list is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai_tong Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 The really aweful thing is that no one appreciates the time I put into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane_Rift Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Unable to view your spreadsheet. ~ Arcane Rift ~:: 99 Smithing - 2007-03-04 :: :: :: 99 Crafting - 2007-06-18 :: 99 Fletching - 2007-08-27 :::: :: 99 Strength - 2009-05-28 :: :: :: :::: :: :: 99 Prayer - 2011-11-27 :: :: 99 Slayer - 2012-01-15 :::: :: 99 Summoning - 2012-12-07 :: 99 Firemaking - 2012-12-09 :: 99 Woodcutting - 2013-01-17 :: 99 Mining - 2013-01-31 :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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