200M in all Skills

[Thai_tong]

It was on shared, try again.

[xpx]

The really aweful thing is that no one appreciates the time I put into it.

Yeah, once i see the figures(primarily xp/h, which is the same as kph) i'll compare them to mine and see what ones aren't matching up. But yeah, can't access it.

[Arcane_Rift]

Nope

[yoooooooooooooooooooo]

The really aweful thing is that no one appreciates the time I put into it.

i appreciate it even though half the info is wrong

[dukky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD3I52ltMg4&feature=channel_video_title

 

This is doable. : )

 

Its actually worth it not to use adze for these so you get more logs to split log also

is where foot( givememyarm ) got that method from

But the gain in wc xp is negated by the loss in firemaking xp, especially since splitting the logs doesn't fill up urns.

[Emre]

Here's his Cooking video:

 

Wow 3m an hr with the brawlers ;o

If you did a 24h day for once, that'd be 72m xp :o

[Suomi_Finland]

The really aweful thing is that no one appreciates the time I put into it.

 

I appreciate it but the list just doesn't make much sense to me at the moment.

 

Really appreciate all the calculations and tasks lists that are posted here even though I don't always say it, keep it up!

 

Also was wondering if people would be interested to hear about my runescape history and how I started going for 200M in all skills. Would explain why I started asking for donations too, it would be very long post though and I don't really like talking about myself. Never been good writer either, especially in English. Would probably post it after Bonus XP weekend because been really busy with Slayer lately and have to write a bit at a time haha :P And don't really know if its something that people would like to read.

 

Anyways post what you think and I will think about it :P

[BBK]

The really aweful thing is that no one appreciates the time I put into it.

 

I appreciate it but the list just doesn't make much sense to me at the moment.

 

Really appreciate all the calculations and tasks lists that are posted here even though I don't always say it, keep it up!

 

Also was wondering if people would be interested to hear about my runescape history and how I started going for 200M in all skills. Would explain why I started asking for donations too, it would be very long post though and I don't really like talking about myself. Never been good writer either, especially in English. Would probably post it after Bonus XP weekend because been really busy with Slayer lately and have to write a bit at a time haha :P And don't really know if its something that people would like to read.

 

Anyways post what you think and I will think about it :P

 

Sounds interesting go for it :)

[kjarqu]

I would like to hear your rs history S U O M I

[Emre]

Yes me too! :).

[miracleman58]

I hope this history includes a bank picture - Then we can stop speculating if you can afford 200m herb/pray/con...

[Weekdiertje]

Yes i would really LOVE that suomi

[ilovecuttingyews]

That sounds wonderfull. I know in the past that Tipit often had interviews / history articles with top players but they haven't for some time and I miss it. I still remember when they had one with Zezima and remember thinking 'he's a pretty cool guy, its nice that he's on top. He deserves it'. So yes, please enlighten us about your past, present and future! :thumbsup:

[Thai_tong]

Tell me what figures you think are wrong and i will try to correct it. I hope there aren't too many wrong.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD3I52ltMg4&feature=channel_video_title

 

This is doable. : )

 

Its actually worth it not to use adze for these so you get more logs to split log also

is where foot( givememyarm ) got that method from

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But the gain in wc xp is negated by the loss in firemaking xp, especially since splitting the logs doesn't fill up urns.

That method is max 130k/hr? And I think splitting and re clicking doesn't stop you woodcutting similar to fletching bolts.

splitting logs is 42.5xp (don't think lumberjack effects it). 1 log is 147 firemaking xp, firemaking is 450k/hr

If adze is better then

147/450 > 42.5/130

0.3267> 0.3269 which is false. So unless you get faster wc or slower fm dragon axe is a tiny bit better (actually saves less than a second worth of training each time lol)

 

 

The really aweful thing is that no one appreciates the time I put into it.

 

I appreciate it but the list just doesn't make much sense to me at the moment.

 

Really appreciate all the calculations and tasks lists that are posted here even though I don't always say it, keep it up!

 

Also was wondering if people would be interested to hear about my runescape history and how I started going for 200M in all skills. Would explain why I started asking for donations too, it would be very long post though and I don't really like talking about myself. Never been good writer either, especially in English. Would probably post it after Bonus XP weekend because been really busy with Slayer lately and have to write a bit at a time haha :P And don't really know if its something that people would like to read.

 

Anyways post what you think and I will think about it :P

I'd like to read that. Paperbag's history was a really good I'm sure yours would be too.

[Emre]

*cough* calculations

[Thai_tong]

Whats wrong now >.< Just do them with the figures you think are correct... Its obvious how to do it from the way I did it.

[Trade_With]

 

I appreciate it but the list just doesn't make much sense to me at the moment.

 

Really appreciate all the calculations and tasks lists that are posted here even though I don't always say it, keep it up!

 

Also was wondering if people would be interested to hear about my runescape history and how I started going for 200M in all skills. Would explain why I started asking for donations too, it would be very long post though and I don't really like talking about myself. Never been good writer either, especially in English. Would probably post it after Bonus XP weekend because been really busy with Slayer lately and have to write a bit at a time haha :P And don't really know if its something that people would like to read.

 

Anyways post what you think and I will think about it :P

 

Do a tip.it times interview.

 

I remember reading the other interviews when they first came out and found them fascinating. I'm sure if you, or any of the other top players that post a fair bit here, did one there would be a lot of interest in it.

[GE_Slave_o]

Please do it, Suomi.

[GE_Slave_o]

It was on shared, try again.

 

I'm still unable to see it.

[Thai_tong]

Ok while I copy some of the figures here is the formula used for you to ponder on

 

(xp rate)/(dagganoth xp rate) + (summoning rate)/(waterfiends summoning rate) + (effigy rate)/(black demons effigy rate)

If that figure is the base efficiency (B) then

 

(B/average B)^{frequency x length}

 

Where a larger result is a better task

[Quyneax]

Frequency has nothing to do with how good a task is - that only determines whether you should skip or block. Likewise length isn't important provided you don't have to much overhead (travelling).

 

Also, I'm assuming you're trying to take the max xp rate, charm rate and effigy rate and judging a task by those rates. You should also add profit. Secondly, simply adding them together doesn't result in any meaningful number. Finally, black demons are actually faster summoning xp black dragons are faster effigies.

 

What you should calculate is the total amount of time a single monster (on task) gives you - in slayer xp, summoning xp, effigies (90 mins each, approx), money (at a certain income) etc.

[Thai_tong]

Slayer rates

These are from Zafot

Spectre 63k

Abbys 36k

black demons 48k

black dragons 40k

bloodveld 80k

blue drags 36k

daggs 80k

dark beasts 50k

dusties 45k

fires 41k

garg 34k

greaters 30k

hellhound 61k

ices 48k

irons 33k

jungles 32k

Kalphites 37k

Living rocks 50k

Miths 24k

nech 38k

wyvern 32k

mages 26k

steels 30k

suqath 59k

Jad 60k

waterfiend 37k

 

 

These are from Dragonseance

Warped tortoises 39k

Deserts 34k

Jungles 32k

Terror dogs 36k

 

And from Viv

aquanites 33k

[Thai_tong]

Frequency has nothing to do with how good a task is - that only determines whether you should skip or block. Likewise length isn't important provided you don't have to much overhead (travelling).

 

Also, I'm assuming you're trying to take the max xp rate, charm rate and effigy rate and judging a task by those rates. You should also add profit. Secondly, simply adding them together doesn't result in any meaningful number. Finally, black demons are actually faster summoning xp & black dragons are faster effigies.

 

What you should calculate is the total amount of time a single monster (on task) gives you - in slayer xp, summoning xp, effigies (90 mins each, approx), money (at a certain income) etc.

Frequency and length most certainately have to do with how good a task is. If a bad task takes a long time it is worse than a bad task that doesn't last long because you are getting bad xp for longer.

Similarly if a good task is assigned often it is better than a good task that is assigned very rarely because you are getting good xp more often. A task taking twice as long has the same effect as a task being twice as likely to be assigned except that assignment rate effects slayer points got/spent which I think is unimportant in the greater scheme of things.

 

Yes I take the max rate I will NOT include profit because it isn't important for what I wanted to use it for. Like I said earlier the formula is adaptable and you can add boredom, afkness and profit (read back if you don't know how to measure boredom).

 

Adding them does result in a meaningful number. It combines the comparisons it has with the other (max) tasks in an equal way, note that multiplying them together does not work because then Jad and mages would have a 0 base efficiency. Also if you cared about slayer 3 times more than effigies and summoning the formula would be like

B = 3x (slayer) + (summoning) + (effigies)

[muuuuuuuuuu]

Frequency has nothing to do with how good a task is - that only determines whether you should skip or block. Likewise length isn't important provided you don't have to much overhead (travelling).

 

Also, I'm assuming you're trying to take the max xp rate, charm rate and effigy rate and judging a task by those rates. You should also add profit. Secondly, simply adding them together doesn't result in any meaningful number. Finally, black demons are actually faster summoning xp & black dragons are faster effigies.

 

What you should calculate is the total amount of time a single monster (on task) gives you - in slayer xp, summoning xp, effigies (90 mins each, approx), money (at a certain income) etc.

Frequency and length most certainately have to do with how good a task is. If a bad task takes a long time it is worse than a bad task that doesn't last long because you are getting bad xp for longer.

Similarly if a good task is assigned often it is better than a good task that is assigned very rarely because you are getting good xp more often. A task taking twice as long has the same effect as a task being twice as likely to be assigned except that assignment rate effects slayer points got/spent which I think is unimportant in the greater scheme of things.

 

Yes I take the max rate I will NOT include profit because it isn't important for what I wanted to use it for. Like I said earlier the formula is adaptable and you can add boredom, afkness and profit (read back if you don't know how to measure boredom).

 

Adding them does result in a meaningful number. It combines the comparisons it has with the other (max) tasks in an equal way, note that multiplying them together does not work because then Jad and mages would have a 0 base efficiency. Also if you cared about slayer 3 times more than effigies and summoning the formula would be like

B = 3x (slayer) + (summoning) + (effigies)

But, by ranking a good task that is rarely assigned badly since it is rarely assigned, you are saying it's a bad task to do and someone might get confused and think they should skip/block that task, when in reality they should definitely do the task, it just doesn't come often so it's not something you can expect to do consistently.

[Thai_tong]

They wont think it is a bad task since a good task's efficiency will ALWAYS stay above 1 no matter what the length and freq are whereas a bad task will ALWAYS be below 1.