Hedgehog Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Afaik Myr is correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 >No idea what I'm talking about>So I guess I'll just write some random numbers :)I have quite a good idea what I am talking about actually. Under a simple analysis you could just add the extra time onto individual trappings on a perfect hour of hunting, ie the time lost. This would correspond to probably around 45k less XP. With more rigorous analysis, you'd want to investigate the impact of having your traps on the floor for a shorter duration throughout the hour. I said I was missing data, for example the ratio of common:draconic, and without that data I'll give estimated figures yes, but they're in no way random. I think it's better anyway than just stating that it would be equal to 85k XP with nothing to back that up whatsoever. >I can't actually back up what I said>Guess I'd better just try to demean my way out of this one Ok bad boy.... You take 4 ticks to take a trap and to lay it down again. You only spend a tick running one trap to another. So, 5 ticks per each time you try to catch one jadino.But you can suck enough and waste 2 ticks per trap. That makes it 7 ticks per attempt. Around 6000 ticks occour per hour. 6k/5 = You try to catch 1200 jadinkos per hour6k/7 = You try to catch 857 jadinos per hour That means it is 40% faster. Oh... I guess everyone agrees you get 295k XP/hr (pre-staff). So, with the staff, you get around 310k. 310k/1.4=221.4k XP/hr... I really had no idea what I was talking about, right? Funny. Then you keep forgetting completelly that not always will all the traps be filled once you get to them. You are constantly waiting more than actually spending on setting up a trap. So instead of wasting 2 ticks, you only waste 2/5th of a "tick" per trap per trap period (the number of ticks it normally takes for a trap to fill up). As you basically don't waste time - the two ticks do not increase your gathering speed at all because the next trap isn't sprung when you go on. The only time you waste is that during 2 ticks only 4 traps are placed of the 5 possible traps Simply doing the math would have shown you that obviously you won't have 1200 catches in an hour...that would be 740 k exp/hr. The math that saving 2 ticks per trap should provide ~40% more exp/hr will stand as long as your traps are activated (capture or not) often enough (which they most definitely are, at 99 with arctic bear, scentless, full camo, and aura you can barely keep up with them and in some cases fall behind if you stop paying attention). I personally pulled around 280 k exp/hr when I tested them (was 99 hunter since before they came out) and wasn't giving 100% attention to it. Can we stop talking about this now? Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBe Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Jake has like 500m xp left. Any guesses to when he will get it? (Ignoring new skills) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemeos2 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 ya i basically did everything gemeos is saying, and i was a little less effecient and did not pay 100% attention the whole time, and i still averaged 275k/hr without the stick How many hours is that XP rate based at? My youtube channel with efficient skilling guides and achievements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemeos2 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 >No idea what I'm talking about>So I guess I'll just write some random numbers :)I have quite a good idea what I am talking about actually. Under a simple analysis you could just add the extra time onto individual trappings on a perfect hour of hunting, ie the time lost. This would correspond to probably around 45k less XP. With more rigorous analysis, you'd want to investigate the impact of having your traps on the floor for a shorter duration throughout the hour. I said I was missing data, for example the ratio of common:draconic, and without that data I'll give estimated figures yes, but they're in no way random. I think it's better anyway than just stating that it would be equal to 85k XP with nothing to back that up whatsoever. >I can't actually back up what I said>Guess I'd better just try to demean my way out of this one Ok bad boy.... You take 4 ticks to take a trap and to lay it down again. You only spend a tick running one trap to another. So, 5 ticks per each time you try to catch one jadino.But you can suck enough and waste 2 ticks per trap. That makes it 7 ticks per attempt. Around 6000 ticks occour per hour. 6k/5 = You try to catch 1200 jadinkos per hour6k/7 = You try to catch 857 jadinos per hour That means it is 40% faster. Oh... I guess everyone agrees you get 295k XP/hr (pre-staff). So, with the staff, you get around 310k. 310k/1.4=221.4k XP/hr... I really had no idea what I was talking about, right? Funny. Then you keep forgetting completelly that not always will all the traps be filled once you get to them. You are constantly waiting more than actually spending on setting up a trap. So instead of wasting 2 ticks, you only waste 2/5th of a "tick" per trap per trap period (the number of ticks it normally takes for a trap to fill up). As you basically don't waste time - the two ticks do not increase your gathering speed at all because the next trap isn't sprung when you go on. The only time you waste is that during 2 ticks only 4 traps are placed of the 5 possible traps Simply doing the math would have shown you that obviously you won't have 1200 catches in an hour...that would be 740 k exp/hr. The math that saving 2 ticks per trap should provide ~40% more exp/hr will stand as long as your traps are activated (capture or not) often enough (which they most definitely are, at 99 with arctic bear, scentless, full camo, and aura you can barely keep up with them and in some cases fall behind if you stop paying attention). I personally pulled around 280 k exp/hr when I tested them (was 99 hunter since before they came out) and wasn't giving 100% attention to it. Can we stop talking about this now? I wrote "You try to catch x jadinko per hour". 1 My youtube channel with efficient skilling guides and achievements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Jake has like 500m xp left. Any guesses to when he will get it? (Ignoring new skills)48m fishing = 600 hours64m smithing = 256 hours (I used 250k xp/hour smithing rune 2hs, I don't know what he does or how accurate that figure is)115.5m mining = 1050 hours163m agility = 2232 hours at barb advanced143.5m runecrafting = 1304 hours 5442 hours So he's a good year away, give or take a month or two Warbands will take a lot of time off though. I'd also expect at least a portion of that agility to be done through lamps etc. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 >No idea what I'm talking about>So I guess I'll just write some random numbers :)I have quite a good idea what I am talking about actually. Under a simple analysis you could just add the extra time onto individual trappings on a perfect hour of hunting, ie the time lost. This would correspond to probably around 45k less XP. With more rigorous analysis, you'd want to investigate the impact of having your traps on the floor for a shorter duration throughout the hour. I said I was missing data, for example the ratio of common:draconic, and without that data I'll give estimated figures yes, but they're in no way random. I think it's better anyway than just stating that it would be equal to 85k XP with nothing to back that up whatsoever. >I can't actually back up what I said>Guess I'd better just try to demean my way out of this one Ok bad boy.... You take 4 ticks to take a trap and to lay it down again. You only spend a tick running one trap to another. So, 5 ticks per each time you try to catch one jadino.But you can suck enough and waste 2 ticks per trap. That makes it 7 ticks per attempt. Around 6000 ticks occour per hour. 6k/5 = You try to catch 1200 jadinkos per hour6k/7 = You try to catch 857 jadinos per hour That means it is 40% faster. Oh... I guess everyone agrees you get 295k XP/hr (pre-staff). So, with the staff, you get around 310k. 310k/1.4=221.4k XP/hr... I really had no idea what I was talking about, right? Funny. Then you keep forgetting completelly that not always will all the traps be filled once you get to them. You are constantly waiting more than actually spending on setting up a trap. So instead of wasting 2 ticks, you only waste 2/5th of a "tick" per trap per trap period (the number of ticks it normally takes for a trap to fill up). As you basically don't waste time - the two ticks do not increase your gathering speed at all because the next trap isn't sprung when you go on. The only time you waste is that during 2 ticks only 4 traps are placed of the 5 possible traps Simply doing the math would have shown you that obviously you won't have 1200 catches in an hour...that would be 740 k exp/hr. The math that saving 2 ticks per trap should provide ~40% more exp/hr will stand as long as your traps are activated (capture or not) often enough (which they most definitely are, at 99 with arctic bear, scentless, full camo, and aura you can barely keep up with them and in some cases fall behind if you stop paying attention). I personally pulled around 280 k exp/hr when I tested them (was 99 hunter since before they came out) and wasn't giving 100% attention to it. Can we stop talking about this now? I wrote "You try to catch x jadinko per hour". I assumed that what you said (which I bolded) meant that he hadn't taken failures into account in his calculations. What I said is that regardless of fail rate as long as your traps are triggered fast enough to always be running to a trap to reset it (which they almost always are with all boosts and 99 hunter) saving 2 ticks per trap is going to result in 40% more exp/hr. Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddieh Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Drumgun still has less hours left than Jake right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swisscooler_ Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Jake has like 500m xp left. Any guesses to when he will get it? (Ignoring new skills)48m fishing = 600 hours64m smithing = 256 hours (I used 250k xp/hour smithing rune 2hs, I don't know what he does or how accurate that figure is)115.5m mining = 1050 hours163m agility = 2232 hours at barb advanced143.5m runecrafting = 1304 hours 5442 hours So he's a good year away, give or take a month or two Warbands will take a lot of time off though. I'd also expect at least a portion of that agility to be done through lamps etc.i think mining will be done through warbands so it's 4.4k hOurs which is still "far away" Does anyone know the xp/h rates of runecrafting challenges? are they worth do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A13d Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 A while back Thai said he and Xensure mapped out all of the Jadinko spawns and he wanted me to test out this particular formation: http://puu.sh/ftSC. The three Jadinkos facing me are all spawns if I recall correctly. Ignore the lack of gem bags or whatever the hell you cool kids use now edit: oh yeah when I was focusing I got anywhere between 290-310k (possibly 315k) xp/hr not including the time spent to gather supplies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdulla Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 A while back Thai said he and Xensure mapped out all of the Jadinko spawns and he wanted me to test out this particular formation: http://puu.sh/ftSC. The three Jadinkos facing me are all spawns if I recall correctly. Ignore the lack of gem bags or whatever the hell you cool kids use now edit: oh yeah when I was focusing I got anywhere between 290-310k (possibly 315k) xp/hr not including the time spent to gather suppliesI assume this is without the 5% stick or the 3% avatar? Also you were using a bear too I think, but maybe just confirm if you were or not. (22:28:44) <@Leik> LE INTORNUTZ SPEEK xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis1330 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 agilspan... ty I am not a skiller, but i do some skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 A while back Thai said he and Xensure mapped out all of the Jadinko spawns and he wanted me to test out this particular formation: http://puu.sh/ftSC. The three Jadinkos facing me are all spawns if I recall correctly. Ignore the lack of gem bags or whatever the hell you cool kids use now edit: oh yeah when I was focusing I got anywhere between 290-310k (possibly 315k) xp/hr not including the time spent to gather suppliesThat became irrelevant when we figured out that the jadinkos spawn one square north of where they're captured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miracleman58 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 agilspan... ty Soon... 1593th to 99 Farming - July 08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boredom RS Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Jake has like 500m xp left. Any guesses to when he will get it? (Ignoring new skills) Probably still like a year left, not looking forward to agil..will probably be my last, even after new skills, assuming they're not worse than agil (is that even possible)? Poor Jebrim.. what has he ever done to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death7178 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 In case nobody realized, Elvis has a grand total of 0 xp for the week. :? And in other news, Suomi changed his name to "Fake Suomi". #653 to 120 Divination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A13d Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Oh, wow. Well that's kind of embarrassing that I never picked up on that but I guess it's irrelevant to me now since I can't really train it anymore. Actually scratch that I might be going back there for some Marble vines soon, almost out of the ~600 juju farm pots I grabbed along the way to 200M Hunt lol Anyway in other news it looks like Makaveli is just chilling at rocktails until Divination comes out. He'll probably go hard on that so the host-who maka-what retardfarm feud isn't over just quite yet. Oh yeah and there are now two trimmed completionists on the first page, cool stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr148 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Speaking of Trimmed comp capes on front page, alkan has over 2k c wars games/tickets. How many do you need for the trimmed req, because im pretty sure he has most of the other stuff, not all, but most, except ports and cwars. That would be pretty cool if he got trimmed http://www.youtube.com/user/PajamaGaming^click for RS vids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdulla Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Speaking of Trimmed comp capes on front page, alkan has over 2k c wars games/tickets. How many do you need for the trimmed req, because im pretty sure he has most of the other stuff, not all, but most, except ports and cwars. That would be pretty cool if he got trimmedYou need full profound armour to complete the castle wars requirement for trimmed. I believe that is 2100 games if you won all of them (which I think most people do these days). (22:28:44) <@Leik> LE INTORNUTZ SPEEK xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBe Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Speaking of Trimmed comp capes on front page, alkan has over 2k c wars games/tickets. How many do you need for the trimmed req, because im pretty sure he has most of the other stuff, not all, but most, except ports and cwars. That would be pretty cool if he got trimmedYou need full profound armour to complete the castle wars requirement for trimmed. I believe that is 2100 games if you won all of them (which I think most people do these days). I doubt he has many other reqs done other than Fish Flingers, unless he does rocks. To be honest the only ones that take much time are Cw, FF, and Rocks.. I also really doubt he won most of those games, prob just afk'd in w24 pre-update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr148 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 no he got most of the games done a really long time ago he said. Before he maxed. He mentioned in one of his really old vids when he played, they would give the flag to the person with the highest def level, just to say how long ago it was. Also he has done the statue, he used to do it every week in his vids aswell.Idk he could be alot closer to full completion of the game than dragonseance lol Also, can u fletch broads within castle wars games http://www.youtube.com/user/PajamaGaming^click for RS vids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunokiller Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Also, can u fletch broads within castle wars games Nope My blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr148 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Damnit. Is it possible to gain any sort of xp within castle wars? I would definitely do them if you could fletch broads or something http://www.youtube.com/user/PajamaGaming^click for RS vids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulli23 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Damnit. Is it possible to gain any sort of xp within castle wars? I would definitely do them if you could fletch broads or somethingYou would simply leech other people's games away. People who have an attitude like yours make the game feel so terrible and uncommunity like. 1 First they came to fishingand I didn't speak out because I wasn't fishing Then they came to the yewsand I didn't speak out because I didn't cut yews Then they came for the oresand I didn't speak out because I didn't collect ores Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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