youth

[stevepole]

I can't take this thread serious when the majority of users here are still in high school, no offense to anyone but unless you are older then like 25 you are still considered the "youth".

[Skull]

Yeah, I still consider myself "Today's Youth". I probably will until I'm about 20. Children might be the more appropriate term. And I've noticed a lot of what's being talked about with the freshmen in my high school now. I hate freshmen.

[Giordano]

Phyiscal harm isn't the only thing you could keep your children in line, you could use fear. My parents didn't hit me much, but my mom became a demon from the underworld. If I kept going she probably would of hit me, but her attidude would just be enough scare us into good behavour.

 

So that picture of the kid crouching down and saying "If your kid doesn't look like this, then you failed as a parent" is somewhat true.

[anonymous_user]

Lack of etiquette, lack of discipline. Bad parenting. A lot of young people nowadays are spoilt and unwise. We would probably behave better if we were treated more severely; not necessarily to punish us, but as an incentive to be well-mannered. I'm only 14 though so my opinion counts for nothing. I think young behaviour has gone downhill since things like the cane were banned in schools. Those stroppy kids who want attention and think they can get what they want need to know their place. People(parents) are becoming too "soft," the human race is devolving. No offence if you're a vegetarian.

[Seraphi]

Blame the internet.

[mario_sunny]

Actually, I was a fan of Spongebob (but then again, when it was in it's prime, I was like 5). Spongebob, Cat Dog, Rocco's Modern Life *cough* look at my name *cough*, DOUG, Rugrats... the list goes on.

 

 

Sadly I didn't like a single one of those shows. Except Rugrats. That was a masterpiece. It seems like your only old enough to remember the downfall of the great 90's Nick Empire.

 

Unles you can recall

Slimetime Live - loved this

Doug - said that

Hey, Arnold! - loved this, but mostly saw reruns around 03 and 04

Rocket Power - loved this

Legend of the Hidden Temple - hated

Lizzie Mcguire - hated

the ORIGINAL All That cast - didn't really like this

Keenan and Kel - hilarious, but I was too young to like it

The Amanda Show - liked this

 

...and so on and so forth

 

Most of those were great shows... it brings back so many memories. :sad:

 

Except now that I look back on it, I see what a weird show Slimetime Live was. What was up with Nick's obsession with slime? That must have been all the rage back then for the kids, but I was never into it.

 

EDIT: Lol sorry this is kind of turning into a lets reminisce about the 90s thread. But the 90's were so good to us teenagers!

[Kevin_]

I can't take this thread serious when the majority of users here are still in high school, no offense to anyone but unless you are older then like 25 you are still considered the "youth".

What i was thinking, most people here are 16-17-18 ;\.

[mcneilp]

I can't take this thread serious when the majority of users here are still in high school

Thought that myself as well.

I reckon it's just the way society is changing. Going back, our grandparents/parents got the belt at school if they misbehaved. Nowadays, you get detention or a letter home (at my old school at least). Then there's the whole "cotton wool" kids thing, where parents are too scared to let their kids outside to play because of fear of paedophiles/violence etc, which i think the media has a big part to play in blowing quite a lot of it out of proportion.

Good article on it here.

[obfuscator]

Its an interesting phenomenon.

 

I think that advertizing and pop culture are largely to blame. Society tells us to get what we want now, without thought for others. While it may not be affecting little kids as much, it affects parents. Therefore parents are passing these values on to their kids and kids become more rude. Its a bit of a vicious circle actually, it just continues to get worse and worse.

[Racheya]

I think the parents are to blame, even in my case, there's no real discipline at my house.

 

My 9 year old brother does something wrong, he gets shouted at and told he's being grounded, then he'll run off and cry for half an hour, and an hour later he'll be out playing <_< The only sort of discipline that happens is when my dad gets drunk and angry, because he'll really shout and that's not discipline, it's just fear.

 

This is a dysfunctional, working class family. Good, middle class mummies and daddies make sure their child gets everything they want and don't go outside with those meanie strangers. Tbh I just think society in general sucks for teenagers. I hear all these stories of teenagers trying to get the word out that they're not all bad and they're nice and stuff, but to me, a 17 year old in a not well-off area, the youth of today sucks. If they're not throwing their litter on the floor they're going around in packs, playing loud chav music and making a racket. They'll hang around the bus stop and act all hard and cocky. *sigh*

[RpgGamer]

They'll hang around the bus stop and act all hard and cocky. *sigh*

 

 

That's another problem with kids these days.

If you're younger than 16, you really don't belong in a relationship that goes further than kissing. And 16 is pushing it.

 

(get it? :P)

[Skeptical]

I blame popular culture. While I am one of the "children" of this generation you speak of and rather resent being called a hooligan I can see your point. In my school it has become rare for someone to hold the door for a complete stranger or even close friends. While this in itself is trivial its deeper meaning (at least for me) is that people do not find worth in their companions or at least to the degree that they used to. Like I said before I blame popular culture for this more specifically certain mainstream "rap" cultures as from what I have seen they promote unruly behavior to say the least. Just my two cents...

 

 

A standard, uninspired corporate answer: can't be your fault, can't be my fault, can't be the teacher's, the preachers, religion, lets just find a way to blame something that we have no control over, and therefor cannot punish or change.

[FunPhish]

The biggest difference I see between kids today and when I was a kid is that they WANT to be babied. When I was young, maybe it was having an older brother, but I always wanted to be a big boy. Now they don't care, they want you to do everything, they want their mom to go with them everywhere. When I was young it was flat out emberassing to have your mom around, or to get her to do something for you. Now they don't care, now it's,"MOM! Come do this for us!". I would never have asked my mom for anything in front of my friends when I was 9-10, now that's all they want to do is have things handed to them.

[Giordano]

The biggest difference I see between kids today and when I was a kid is that they WANT to be babied. When I was young, maybe it was having an older brother, but I always wanted to be a big boy. Now they don't care, they want you to do everything, they want their mom to go with them everywhere. When I was young it was flat out emberassing to have your mom around, or to get her to do something for you. Now they don't care, now it's,"MOM! Come do this for us!". I would never have asked my mom for anything in front of my friends when I was 9-10, now that's all they want to do is have things handed to them.

Oh that reminds me of this brilliant quote I once read. It went something like this:

 

"Adulthood was seen as both liberty and responsibility for growing adolescents; when you reached that age you had complete freedom. But as time goes on, more and more teenagers are drinking, having sex, doing what they want. Adulthood isn't linked to liberty and responsibility anymore, teenagers are getting liberty right now; it's only linked to much responsibility. No wonder children remain children."

 

A rough idea of it, the quote was much longer and structured better.

[All_Is_Great]

The biggest difference I see between kids today and when I was a kid is that they WANT to be babied. When I was young, maybe it was having an older brother, but I always wanted to be a big boy. Now they don't care, they want you to do everything, they want their mom to go with them everywhere. When I was young it was flat out emberassing to have your mom around, or to get her to do something for you. Now they don't care, now it's,"MOM! Come do this for us!". I would never have asked my mom for anything in front of my friends when I was 9-10, now that's all they want to do is have things handed to them.

Oh that reminds me of this brilliant quote I once read. It went something like this:

 

"Adulthood was seen as both liberty and responsibility for growing adolescents; when you reached that age you had complete freedom. But as time goes on, more and more teenagers are drinking, having sex, doing what they want. Adulthood isn't linked to liberty and responsibility anymore, teenagers are getting liberty right now; it's only linked to much responsibility. No wonder children remain children."

 

A rough idea of it, the quote was much longer and structured better.

 

Cool quote.

 

I must say, as a 16 year old, sometimes I do some things mentioned here. Such as talking back at teachers (not swearing or shouting at them, but just asking), but after reading this, it makes me wonder. I really want to change the way I am right now: slacking off, not caring about stuff that's really important. I'm trying to get a job, but it's been difficult. Now, I wouldn't call myself a complete douche, because I think I'm better than that. but just the other day, I saw something my friend did (when I say friend, I mean someone I occasionally talk to, but don't hang out at all at school).

 

I was on the bus, listening to my music, on my way home, and I saw him on the sidewalk with his buddy. As they were about to cross the street, this car turned right in front of them and didn't stop to let them pass, so he gave the driver the finger.

 

That's the kind of stuff we're talking about right? I really have realized the change. I think it's too late to reverse this trend. Pop culture is partially to blame, but so is parenting. And to respond to FunPhish, I just wish my mom would stop sheltering me. I don't want her with me wherever I go, but she's so damn protective, it's killing me! AHHHH! I can't even go for a walk without her asking me a bunch of questions and reminders about "don't smoke, don't get a girlfriend", WTF! Anyways, forgot to add (after getting that off my chest lol), on the subjects of girlfriends, how much people are cheating on their partners nowadays. Why cheat?! Why not just break up with the first girl/boy and then go out with the second one?!!!!

[Star_Fox]

i think i can relate to my experience.

 

i was pumping my bike near the faculty parking lot (where the students exit the campus on north) 2 girls passes by making funny/stupid comments for NO reason. then more kids started showing up. 2 guys (seemingly brothers) laughed at me as they passed by. then a large group of friends approached and started staring at me. 1 girl literally got up and started taunting right in front of me "pump that [cabbage], pump that [cabbage]!" and deep down i felt a little embarrassed...all because i was pumping my bike! outrageous!! i'm not kidding, this happened all at the same time. people did other stupid things for no reason like turning off the bathroom lights pitch dark while i was on the toilet...

 

all this gave me an impression that sometimes, its good to be lonely without peers. because seriously, no matter how deviant a person is, people will act on the most obnoxious ways to make them feel bad...

 

this is why i support corporal punishment. countries that have them are known to have more tolerable kids. not to mention more brain power. ;)

 

so coming from a guy who has no friends and social life, im at least proud to know that i don't take part in their bandwagon.

[Hawks]

Parents are the number one issue here. The fact that That 70's Show is on television while your kid's home doesn't mean they can watch it. Just because Halo 2 exists is no excuse to let your five-year-old play it (I kid you not, I have seen kindergarteners with this game and knowledge of what happens in the game).

 

Parents nowadays see TV and video games as babysitters. Here you go kid, here's the remote! Watch whatever you want. Oh you want this game? Okay, just be sure you let your friends play it too!

 

Music is crap too, although this plagues more the teens than the children. Most of the popular music (3OH!3 [which sure as heck is not any kind of good alternative], any kind of that rap crap, hip-hop, pop) nowadays is not fit [explicit lyrics much?] to be played on the radio. My 21 year old cousin has a 2 year old (and is not married... :roll: ) and plays all sorts of rap with the booming bassline, the child's going to go deaf.

 

I do wish my parents were less restrictive (I used to get yelled at for playing Super Smash Bros. Melee [at a friend's house] when I was 12, because it's rated T. OMG). To this day (sophomore in HS) I've seen one R rated movie (The House on Haunted Hill :P) and the number of PG-13 ones I can probably count on both hands.

[Maze]

Probably 85% of the students at my school are complete obnoxious idiots. I'm in some honors classes, and oh man, are they small. I love honors classes, because I get to get away from those idiots.

 

My experiences:

 

I was in my homeroom, just reading a nice, little novel at my desk. Then, some girl begins making a scene in the classroom. The teacher had asked her very politely to read a book. She retorts with, "No! Books are boring and stupid!". The teacher tries to get her to read, but she keeps refusing and the teacher gave up.

 

The teacher didn't even give her a detention or anything, and she still is a complete [wagon] to her.

 

Also, there was a time when I was walking out of school, and there was a group of students behind me. So, I was nice and held the door for them on their way out. As they walk by, one of them says, "Don't hold the door open! We can get it ourselves!"

What a complete brat. I try to be nice, and this is the way I get treated? :angry:

 

We need to teach parents to parent better.

 

I consider my parents to be very good parents in this generation. They care about me, I get punished if I do something wrong, and they restrict things that aren't good for me.

 

Though they are a bit too restricting at times, they don't let me play M games. I wantz MW2. :cry:

[RpgGamer]

Anyways, forgot to add (after getting that off my chest lol), on the subjects of girlfriends, how much people are cheating on their partners nowadays. Why cheat?! Why not just break up with the first girl/boy and then go out with the second one?!!!!

 

This.

This...

Just disturbs me on so many levels. It bothers the hell out of me. I'm a pretty settled and calm guy, but cheating really just scews my demeanor. I start raging just at the thought of it. It legitamitly makes me sick. Like I want to throw up when I think about someone telling someone they love them, and turning around and cheating on them. It's disgusting. And I see it WAY too often in today's kids. It's like everything is mandatory to be a teen drama. They cheat on eachother out of boredom. It's awful. It's dispicable. And I hate it.

 

Someone needs to teach these kids honor, respect, and loyalty. NOW.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEVPoo0kOa4

[stonewall337]

Actually, I was a fan of Spongebob (but then again, when it was in it's prime, I was like 5). Spongebob, Cat Dog, Rocco's Modern Life *cough* look at my name *cough*, DOUG, Rugrats... the list goes on.

 

 

Sadly I didn't like a single one of those shows. Except Rugrats. That was a masterpiece. It seems like your only old enough to remember the downfall of the great 90's Nick Empire.

 

Unles you can recall

Slimetime Live

Doug

Hey, Arnold!

Rocket Power

Legend of the Hidden Temple

Lizzie Mcguire

the ORIGINAL All That cast

Keenan and Kel

The Amanda Show

 

...and so on and so forth

 

Slimetime used to scare me when I was very little. Like 4 that is. I also remember something with a sockeating monster who lived in the closet. Don't remember name. Like I said, i was around 3-5.

 

Probably 85% of the students at my school are complete obnoxious idiots. I'm in some honors classes, and oh man, are they small. I love honors classes, because I get to get away from those idiots.

 

My experiences:

 

I was in my homeroom, just reading a nice, little novel at my desk. Then, some girl begins making a scene in the classroom. The teacher had asked her very politely to read a book. She retorts with, "No! Books are boring and stupid!". The teacher tries to get her to read, but she keeps refusing and the teacher gave up.

 

The teacher didn't even give her a detention or anything, and she still is a complete [wagon] to her.

 

Also, there was a time when I was walking out of school, and there was a group of students behind me. So, I was nice and held the door for them on their way out. As they walk by, one of them says, "Don't hold the door open! We can get it ourselves!"

What a complete brat. I try to be nice, and this is the way I get treated? :angry:

 

We need to teach parents to parent better.

 

I consider my parents to be very good parents in this generation. They care about me, I get punished if I do something wrong, and they restrict things that aren't good for me.

 

Though they are a bit too restricting at times, they don't let me play M games. I wantz MW2. :cry:

 

Also, the feminist movement is partially to blame. They didn't want to be treated like ladies, so when men try to practice the almost forgotten art of chivalry, they are occasionally looked down.

 

BTW: Can a mod merge these posts please?

Done :) ~ Racheya

[rangeor]

Parents aren't only to blame. The introduction of the Internet has had a major effect on how kids are raised, and I don't think parents have yet adopted a method of properly treating their kids in this situation. Raising a child today is much different than it was fifteen years ago.

[Youmu]

The youth really is getting a lot worse now than it was several years ago.

 

When I was small, I hardly hear anyone swearing, and I was a good kid.

 

Nowadays, it is impossible to live a day without hearing at least one swear word.

 

Good thing I'm one of the good people, unlike some of the people at our school...

[Giordano]

The youth really is getting a lot worse now than it was several years ago.

When I was small, I hardly hear anyone swearing, and I was a good kid.

Nowadays, it is impossible to live a day without hearing at least one swear word.

Good thing I'm one of the good people, unlike some of the people at our school...

But is that really because of the times or just of your inexperience? It's more probable that you didn't hear swear words when you were younger because of these two reasons:

 

1) You didn't know the words. When I was in Elementary school, I knew there were "bad words" but didn't know what they were. It wasn't until middle school I figured them out. So maybe you were hearing them but didn't understand them.

 

2) You were a kid. People usually try not to swear in front of children.