Quyneax Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 That proportion is not so small as you may think (hope). And since you can't prove that wrong either, Bassy is also right. Prove me wrong. He made unsourced, unfounded claims, I stated facts. Who's wrong here?It is not a fact that corp teams are the only ones keeping the bgs up in price, nor has it been verified that only a small portion of the demand is from 'noobs'. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assume Nothing Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 That proportion is not so small as you may think (hope). And since you can't prove that wrong either, Bassy is also right. Prove me wrong. He made unsourced, unfounded claims, I stated facts. Who's wrong here?It is not a fact that corp teams are the only ones keeping the bgs up in price, nor has it been verified that only a small portion of the demand is from 'noobs'. That's not what I was referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EU Slayer Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 That proportion is not so small as you may think (hope). And since you can't prove that wrong either, Bassy is also right. Prove me wrong. He made unsourced, unfounded claims, I stated facts. Who's wrong here?It is not a fact that corp teams are the only ones keeping the bgs up in price, nor has it been verified that only a small portion of the demand is from 'noobs'. That's not what I was referring to. Then what ARE you refering to ? I don't know which mod did this. I don't know why they did it. If they're looking for money, I can tell them I don't have any as I'm a student. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over 4 years of RuneScape. Skills that I have worked hard for and people like them can't take them away. If they give me my particles back now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for them, I will not pursue them. But if they don't, I will look for them, I will find them, and they won't like what'll happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffwilson99 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 A small portion of misinformed 'noobs' doesn't keep the demand curve high for very long. Unless you could prove there are a lot of these 'noobs' in proportion to those who actually know what a Chaotic can do, I'm still right. Prove me wrong. He made unsourced, unfounded claims, I stated facts. Who's wrong here? Wow, look who just did the same thing? While you may have a reasonable point, chaotics are not a perfect substitute, and they are certainly not free (recharge cost + opportunity cost of getting to 80 dg). Currently less than 30k people actually have access to chaotic weapons, while over 800k the ability to use a godsword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siim Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 street price of divine = rank 1 dung I lol'd so hard, haha. For those who don't know, current #1 dung the former #1 a Divine SS for trade price so she'd stop dunging :)And I didn't name names so I didn't break any rules FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonewall337 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 So hey guys i have found an old account with a red partyhat, a santa hat, 2 green masks and a red mask on it (Im happy as hell).How should i trade stuff to get a divine?You could trade red phat for a divine straight up. I'd do it lol. [hide=Drops]Araxxor Eye x1 Leg pieces x2GWD: 5000 Addy bar Steam B Staff x3 Z Spear x6 Sara. Hilt x2 Bandos Hilt x2 (LS, Solo)SS x6 (1 LS)Tormented Demons: Shard x6 Slice x5 Claws x9 Limbs x3DKS: Archer x21 Warrior x31 Berserker x30 Axe x51[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Kurity Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I wouldn't its a freakin party hat. O.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assume Nothing Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I wouldn't its a freakin party hat. Easy. Downgrade to Yellow + Purp, trade Yellow -> Divine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I wouldn't its a freakin party hat.Party hats have no inherent gameplay value. Spirit Shields actually have a use. I would absolutely swap a phat for a divine, as amassing pointless wealth is, frankly, boring, and when that's all that's left to do in a game, I usually just quit playing. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star_Fox Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I wouldn't its a freakin party hat.Party hats have no inherent gameplay value. Spirit Shields actually have a use. I would absolutely swap a phat for a divine, as amassing pointless wealth is, frankly, boring, and when that's all that's left to do in a game, I usually just quit playing. Do all your posts have to look like it was written from an amateur who just got back on rs from a short term break? :blink: Seriously. It's obvious you don't own a partyhat, or never felt having one before for that matter so your definition of "frankly" "boring" is just as obtuseas your head is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I wouldn't its a freakin party hat.Party hats have no inherent gameplay value. Spirit Shields actually have a use. I would absolutely swap a phat for a divine, as amassing pointless wealth is, frankly, boring, and when that's all that's left to do in a game, I usually just quit playing. Do all your posts have to look like it was written from an amateur who just got back on rs from a short term break? :blink: Seriously. It's obvious you don't own a partyhat, or never felt having one before for that matter so your definition of "frankly" "boring" is just as obtuseas your head is.What? He is right, you know? And stating an opinion in the second part. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I wouldn't its a freakin party hat.Party hats have no inherent gameplay value. Spirit Shields actually have a use. I would absolutely swap a phat for a divine, as amassing pointless wealth is, frankly, boring, and when that's all that's left to do in a game, I usually just quit playing. Do all your posts have to look like it was written from an amateur who just started rs from a short term break? :blink: Seriously. It's obvious you don't own a partyhat, or never felt having one before for that matter so your definition of "frankly" "boring" is just as obtuseas your head is.Fun games are fun when they're fun. Eventually you get to a point where more money and xp aren't noticeably enhancing your fun, and there's no shame in declining to pursue them past that point. After all, how much money do you need? You don't get a prize for being the richest player, so if you're not deriving some personal satisfaction from your wealth and none of your goals involve collecting rares, it's perfectly reasonable to spend it, no? Zelda Spirit Tracks was a fun game, but that doesn't mean I'm going to waste my time grinding minigames to try and find all the train parts after I've already beaten the final boss. I mean, we all know that partyhats are baubles whose value comes from their scarcity rather than their utility. They don't add anything to the actual gameplay, their only purpose is storing and showing off wealth, blah blah blah. They do evoke certain emotions of awe or whatnot in lots of people, and for those people, the partyhat might be worth the price. But those feelings are far from universal, and I'm sure you know that, so there's no need to talk down to me like I'm some poor crazy idiot who just doesn't understand how partyhats are super-special-awesome serious business. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonewall337 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 But you are acting like one. You completely ignore the intrinsic value of a party hat, which is there due to rarity. [hide=Drops]Araxxor Eye x1 Leg pieces x2GWD: 5000 Addy bar Steam B Staff x3 Z Spear x6 Sara. Hilt x2 Bandos Hilt x2 (LS, Solo)SS x6 (1 LS)Tormented Demons: Shard x6 Slice x5 Claws x9 Limbs x3DKS: Archer x21 Warrior x31 Berserker x30 Axe x51[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Kurity Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I wouldn't its a freakin party hat.Party hats have no inherent gameplay value. Spirit Shields actually have a use. I would absolutely swap a phat for a divine, as amassing pointless wealth is, frankly, boring, and when that's all that's left to do in a game, I usually just quit playing.Id keep the party hat for the novelty and ever increasing wealth, and then play the game as normal as i usually do. As far as im concerned i can live without a divine, and i can live without a partyhat, but what can i say, i like/would like the attention more than i would a better shield, plus its increasing value means i can always trade it for a divine if i ever feel the compulsion, but not the other way around. O.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 I wouldn't its a freakin party hat.Party hats have no inherent gameplay value. Spirit Shields actually have a use. I would absolutely swap a phat for a divine, as amassing pointless wealth is, frankly, boring, and when that's all that's left to do in a game, I usually just quit playing. Do all your posts have to look like it was written from an amateur who just got back on rs from a short term break? :blink: Seriously. It's obvious you don't own a partyhat, or never felt having one before for that matter so your definition of "frankly" "boring" is just as obtuseas your head is.I have owned a partyhat, have not owned one, and own one again now. I know how it feels and I cal tell you that when you have one, it's nothing special (which is why I ended up selling my hat several times before now), and when you don't, you somehow feel the urge to get one back cause you know it's rising (well, the 2 times I sold my hat, they ended up doubling in value after that). However, flaming Troacctid cause he doesn't feel the need to get one, is going a bit far IMO. A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PereGrin Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 So hey guys i have found an old account with a red partyhat, a santa hat, 2 green masks and a red mask on it (Im happy as hell).How should i trade stuff to get a divine?You could trade red phat for a divine straight up. I'd do it lol.I'm pretty sure a red partyhat is worth far more then a divine. It might be somewhere around a divine and a green or yellow partyhat, maybe. I'm not up to date on street atm, but last I heard divine had dropped in street down between purple and yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 You completely ignore the intrinsic value of a party hat, which is there due to rarity.Uh...no...I said it has no inherent gameplay value and that its value comes from its scarcity rather than its utility. And those are just facts...I don't think anyone would reasonably dispute them. :mellow: Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 troactid is right. a partyhat does not help you do anything in the game. a divine does. this is why i traded a higher phat for a lower phat + divine. i don't regret it at all. also divines rise in the ge as well. i've made over 50m from my divine rising since i bought it. not to mention all the monster hunting i've done with it. How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la la la Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I have owned a partyhat, have not owned one, and own one again now. I know how it feels and I cal tell you that when you have one, it's nothing special (which is why I ended up selling my hat several times before now), and when you don't, you somehow feel the urge to get one back cause you know it's rising (well, the 2 times I sold my hat, they ended up doubling in value after that). However, flaming Troacctid cause he doesn't feel the need to get one, is going a bit far IMO.Too true. Same thing happened to me, and I can't part with it again simply because of the fact that it's rising and nearly impossible to reobtain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonewall337 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 You completely ignore the intrinsic value of a party hat, which is there due to rarity.Uh...no...I said it has no inherent gameplay value and that its value comes from its scarcity rather than its utility. And those are just facts...I don't think anyone would reasonably dispute them. :mellow:Could easily debate that, as merchanting, and supply and demand, as well as street price, and buying power are all intrinsically part of the current RS market. Use in solo-style gameplay? No. It won't help you kill a boss. But it will help if you use it as a commodity. [hide=Drops]Araxxor Eye x1 Leg pieces x2GWD: 5000 Addy bar Steam B Staff x3 Z Spear x6 Sara. Hilt x2 Bandos Hilt x2 (LS, Solo)SS x6 (1 LS)Tormented Demons: Shard x6 Slice x5 Claws x9 Limbs x3DKS: Archer x21 Warrior x31 Berserker x30 Axe x51[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 You completely ignore the intrinsic value of a party hat, which is there due to rarity.Uh...no...I said it has no inherent gameplay value and that its value comes from its scarcity rather than its utility. And those are just facts...I don't think anyone would reasonably dispute them. :mellow:Could easily debate that, as merchanting, and supply and demand, as well as street price, and buying power are all intrinsically part of the current RS market. Use in solo-style gameplay? No. It won't help you kill a boss. But it will help if you use it as a commodity.To buy a divine :P. How's my favourite shield doing on the market? Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My_Eggs Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Whats the deal with fury kits? I know I've asked this before, and was told they were down to like 80m or so street value, but just yesterday I went to world 2 at the G.E. I saw a guy trying to buy a fury kit and was offering a third-age melee set for it (414m mid price). Are they rising in street? 99 HP, Attack, Strength, Defence, Summoning, Ranged, Herblore, Prayer, Agility, Magic, Slayer, Fletching, Fishing, Woodcutting, Mining, and Thieving. Jagex'd out of my untrimmed hp cape on 6/14/2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 fury kits are like 120mish divine is... above purple, below yellow How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siim Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 fury kits are like 120mish divine is... above purple, below yellowWrong. Divine is under purple. People take purple + 100M junk for divine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 ah, that was the last time i looked for the price on div, which was a couple days ago. guess they've gone down. How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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