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This sends a message that if you kill Americans, we'll hunt you down and shoot you in the [bleep]ing face.

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All this talk of peaceful negotiation might be nice, or taking the peaceful route is a noble idea, but ultimately one that isn't viable in some cases. Do you think there was honestly any sort of reasoning with al-Qaeda/Osama? Some people just cannot be reasoned with. He was responsible for the deaths of 3000 civilians, and many more at the absolute least. He had to go. There is no argument that could possibly hold water against this? What, are you going to try to "rehabilitate" him? Do you even think such a thing is possible? al-Quaeda is utterly evil at it's core, to where the only way to absolve it is to dismantle it. They are chaotic evil, seeking destruction no matter the cost towards an entity they don't agree with.

 

tl;dr Seeking a nonviolent solution is the best idea in most cases, but in some, it just isn't an option.

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Joyfully celebrating the killing of a killer who joyfully celebrated killing carries an irony that I hope will not be lost on us.

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i think the irony is lost to the vast majority of these tip it forumers

 

 

Silly question

 

The world is like this because history has tainted it beyond repair, but that doesn't mean we should just ideologically give up and proclaim inevitability. For each person who can recognize evil without bias is a step in the right direction for all of us.

 

I don't understand what you're getting at. Are you suggesting that there is a peaceful solution for absolutely every human conflict?

 

Make no mistake; I wish there was. But there isn't.

 

Of course, the mind-set of 6 billion+ people cannot be changed overnight. Humanity may not be mature enough to resolve all problems peacefully at this time, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't work towards it.

But if we resolve our problems peacefully, how will we control the population?

 

Well that sounded awfully controrversial, although if you're serious; populations can be controlled through proper education and social values.

 

Could you define peacefully? Would you count police arresting protesters as peaceful? if you did then i would say it would be possible but hard to do. If not then i think controlling a people without any form of force would be a complete brainwash of all people entering/living in the nation, and this would just be a unreachable dream at best.

 

Personally I don't agree with any form of violent coercion, that includes policing. You don't need to brainwash people for them to behave sensibly nor do you have to point a gun at their head, humanity is capable of fair social interaction without intervention. Although I agree that it would be near impossible to adopt such a system at present, society isn't ready for it. Wounds have to be recovered before progress can be made; too bad most wounds seem to be becoming worse.

 

Here's the problem there always have been, are, and will be people who disagree with you. Also there will always be people who want to stand out and need attention (yes, I think it's natural for everyone to be like this to some extent), some of those people might comite criminal acts or other violent acts the current system indirectly encourages among cerain sectors, people commit crimes because they see it as a favourable alternative, they aren't happy with their lives because they compare it to the successful and see it as an injustice, and they're right, I'd assume most people driven into crime were not given the same opportunities as those who are well off. There's a whole slew of social problems that lead to crime, problems that should be averted much more effectively. Our notion of 'crime' will most likely always exist in some or another, but it can be reduced without force.

 

The fact is there will always be some dissagrement, some fight, some action that a person will do that requires leads to some force as a result of influences present in the current system and words could not be used. Once you realize that you can work to making a world that needs the least of that as possible.

 

That edit is pretty much my opinion, though I'm not devaluing yours.

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tl;dr Seeking a nonviolent solution is the best idea in most cases, but in some, it just isn't an option.

And the only way that a violent solution will work is if you kill everyone and make sure theres no one left standing to hate you. Unfortunatly the USA is now pretty much rellying on a scorched earth policy where more innocent civilians get hurt or killed. Turning people who would otherwise want peace with the US against them.

 

Theres a simple way to stop the majority of these terrorist orginizations. Stop messing around with other peoples countries, stop keeping tin pot dictators in power simply because they are your tin pot dictator, and actually work on improving the quality of life for people in the mid east rather then lowering it simply for your own ends.

 

If you keep throwing bullets at them then more innocent people will get caught in the crossfire and that will lead to even more terrorists being created.

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tl;dr Seeking a nonviolent solution is the best idea in most cases, but in some, it just isn't an option.

And the only way that a violent solution will work is if you kill everyone and make sure theres no one left standing to hate you. Unfortunatly the USA is now pretty much rellying on a scorched earth policy where more innocent civilians get hurt or killed. Turning people who would otherwise want peace with the US against them.

 

Theres a simple way to stop the majority of these terrorist orginizations. Stop messing around with other peoples countries, stop keeping tin pot dictators in power simply because they are your tin pot dictator, and actually work on improving the quality of life for people in the mid east rather then lowering it simply for your own ends.

 

If you keep throwing bullets at them then more innocent people will get caught in the crossfire and that will lead to even more terrorists being created.

 

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I suppose you believe world war 2 was Franklin Delano Roosevelt's fault, too. Using your logic of chronologized occurrences coincidentally being congruent to whomever the figurehead of power is in that window of time.

To the best of my knowledge, FDR never promised that WWII wouldn't happen if certain pieces of legislation were passed (*cough* stay under 8% unemployment from the stimulus bill *cough* *cough*), or broke numerous campaign promises or outright lied to the American people (We're going to close gitmo, get out of Iraq and end the war in Afghanistan), or be outright hypocritical ("we inherited Bush's debt and record deficit!" while proceeding to double the national debt, and increase the debt by more than Bush's first 3 years in this year's month of February).

 

It's even funnier, now that I'm watching the news, that most of the information that led to Osama's death came from CIA interrogation techniques that Obama rallied against in his campaign.

 

 

But you know, whatever. Next round on me for nabbing him!

 

I feel like you enjoy Fox news. Obama's not perfect, but name me one president that has been.

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I suppose you believe world war 2 was Franklin Delano Roosevelt's fault, too. Using your logic of chronologized occurrences coincidentally being congruent to whomever the figurehead of power is in that window of time.

To the best of my knowledge, FDR never promised that WWII wouldn't happen if certain pieces of legislation were passed (*cough* stay under 8% unemployment from the stimulus bill *cough* *cough*), or broke numerous campaign promises or outright lied to the American people (We're going to close gitmo, get out of Iraq and end the war in Afghanistan), or be outright hypocritical ("we inherited Bush's debt and record deficit!" while proceeding to double the national debt, and increase the debt by more than Bush's first 3 years in this year's month of February).

 

It's even funnier, now that I'm watching the news, that most of the information that led to Osama's death came from CIA interrogation techniques that Obama rallied against in his campaign.

 

 

But you know, whatever. Next round on me for nabbing him!

 

I feel like you enjoy Fox news. Obama's not perfect, but name me one president that has been.

Washington?

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I suppose you believe world war 2 was Franklin Delano Roosevelt's fault, too. Using your logic of chronologized occurrences coincidentally being congruent to whomever the figurehead of power is in that window of time.

To the best of my knowledge, FDR never promised that WWII wouldn't happen if certain pieces of legislation were passed (*cough* stay under 8% unemployment from the stimulus bill *cough* *cough*), or broke numerous campaign promises or outright lied to the American people (We're going to close gitmo, get out of Iraq and end the war in Afghanistan), or be outright hypocritical ("we inherited Bush's debt and record deficit!" while proceeding to double the national debt, and increase the debt by more than Bush's first 3 years in this year's month of February).

 

It's even funnier, now that I'm watching the news, that most of the information that led to Osama's death came from CIA interrogation techniques that Obama rallied against in his campaign.

 

 

But you know, whatever. Next round on me for nabbing him!

 

I feel like you enjoy Fox news. Obama's not perfect, but name me one president that has been.

Washington?

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I suppose you believe world war 2 was Franklin Delano Roosevelt's fault, too. Using your logic of chronologized occurrences coincidentally being congruent to whomever the figurehead of power is in that window of time.

To the best of my knowledge, FDR never promised that WWII wouldn't happen if certain pieces of legislation were passed (*cough* stay under 8% unemployment from the stimulus bill *cough* *cough*), or broke numerous campaign promises or outright lied to the American people (We're going to close gitmo, get out of Iraq and end the war in Afghanistan), or be outright hypocritical ("we inherited Bush's debt and record deficit!" while proceeding to double the national debt, and increase the debt by more than Bush's first 3 years in this year's month of February).

 

It's even funnier, now that I'm watching the news, that most of the information that led to Osama's death came from CIA interrogation techniques that Obama rallied against in his campaign.

 

 

But you know, whatever. Next round on me for nabbing him!

 

I feel like you enjoy Fox news. Obama's not perfect, but name me one president that has been.

Washington?

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Slavery was legal then. And as I recall Washington was somewhat kind to his slaves.

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I suppose you believe world war 2 was Franklin Delano Roosevelt's fault, too. Using your logic of chronologized occurrences coincidentally being congruent to whomever the figurehead of power is in that window of time.

To the best of my knowledge, FDR never promised that WWII wouldn't happen if certain pieces of legislation were passed (*cough* stay under 8% unemployment from the stimulus bill *cough* *cough*), or broke numerous campaign promises or outright lied to the American people (We're going to close gitmo, get out of Iraq and end the war in Afghanistan), or be outright hypocritical ("we inherited Bush's debt and record deficit!" while proceeding to double the national debt, and increase the debt by more than Bush's first 3 years in this year's month of February).

 

It's even funnier, now that I'm watching the news, that most of the information that led to Osama's death came from CIA interrogation techniques that Obama rallied against in his campaign.

 

 

But you know, whatever. Next round on me for nabbing him!

 

I feel like you enjoy Fox news. Obama's not perfect, but name me one president that has been.

Washington?

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Slavery was legal then. And as I recall Washington was somewhat kind to his slaves.

You're just proving our points.

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I feel like you enjoy Fox news. Obama's not perfect, but name me one president that has been.

If killing Osama bin Ladin is Obama's signature accomplishment, 2012 can't come soon enough.

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I feel like you enjoy Fox news. Obama's not perfect, but name me one president that has been.

If killing Osama bin Ladin is Obama's signature accomplishment, 2012 can't come soon enough.

 

Im libertarian but even I recognize that the free market health care plans create an environment where companies can legally say its cheaper to kill someone then treat them. I dont think we need socialized medicine but I do think we need the absolute stringent limitations on why health care companies can deny people.

 

That alone got my vote.

 

 

Also what was bushes first term achievements that warranted a second term?

 

The Democrats picked the worst possible candidate the could find.

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I suppose you believe world war 2 was Franklin Delano Roosevelt's fault, too. Using your logic of chronologized occurrences coincidentally being congruent to whomever the figurehead of power is in that window of time.

To the best of my knowledge, FDR never promised that WWII wouldn't happen if certain pieces of legislation were passed (*cough* stay under 8% unemployment from the stimulus bill *cough* *cough*), or broke numerous campaign promises or outright lied to the American people (We're going to close gitmo, get out of Iraq and end the war in Afghanistan), or be outright hypocritical ("we inherited Bush's debt and record deficit!" while proceeding to double the national debt, and increase the debt by more than Bush's first 3 years in this year's month of February).

 

It's even funnier, now that I'm watching the news, that most of the information that led to Osama's death came from CIA interrogation techniques that Obama rallied against in his campaign.

 

 

But you know, whatever. Next round on me for nabbing him!

 

I feel like you enjoy Fox news. Obama's not perfect, but name me one president that has been.

Washington?

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Slavery was legal then. And as I recall Washington was somewhat kind to his slaves.

You're just proving our points.

 

So because slavery was legal than you think its justified?

 

If murder was legal would you say it was justified?

 

Also even if your nice to your slaves they still have to work for you, and they couldn't just walk off and sleep in a nice field in the afternoon if they wanted to, they had no rights. No matter how you spin it slavery then and now was a bad thing. Also there were abolitionists back then, if he was a "perfect" president he would have not owned slaves and been a strong advocate against it.

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I feel like you enjoy Fox news. Obama's not perfect, but name me one president that has been.

If killing Osama bin Ladin is Obama's signature accomplishment, 2012 can't come soon enough.

 

Im libertarian but even I recognize that the free market health care plans create an environment where companies can legally say its cheaper to kill someone then treat them. I dont think we need socialized medicine but I do think we need the absolute stringent limitations on why health care companies can deny people.

 

That alone got my vote.

Allowing insurance companies to deny people with pre-existing conditions is the only rational thing to do. Waiting to get sick to purchase insurance isn't insurance. If you wreck your car, and then buy car insurance, they're not going to pay to fix your car.

 

Also what was bushes first term achievements that warranted a second term?

He didn't f up? Status quo was fine at the time...

The reason I have such high expectations from Obama is that he gave us high expectations with his campaign promises. I agree; Obama was given a crap hole. Instead of pumping he seems to be floundering around neck deep in it - even worse you could say he's laid it down even thicker - which is why he should not be reelected for a second term.

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Which is why private health insurance doesn't work at all.

 

The public option means everyone is paid for, always, with the same quality of care. Problem solved.

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Which is why private health insurance doesn't work at all.

 

The public option means everyone is paid for, always, with the same quality of care. Problem solved.

Hows that 4 week wait period to see a specialist?

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Which is why private health insurance doesn't work at all.

 

The public option means everyone is paid for, always, with the same quality of care. Problem solved.

Hows that 4 week wait period to see a specialist?

Largely nonexistent, actually.

 

I have never, nor anyone I know had to wait an unreasonable amount of time to see any doctor.

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