notasoupbowl Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Point is you have improved dps against ccs weak things and stab weak things. Not it's comparable dps to slash weak things.But yes, I do think primal baxe + either one is probably better.It'd maybe be ok if hardly any people had variety in their binds, like in 3bo or something. (Although they always seem to attack the wrong monsters dps wise)It'd certainly be fun to try though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Point is you have improved dps against ccs weak things and stab weak things. Not it's comparable dps to slash weak things.But yes, I do think primal baxe + either one is probably better.It'd maybe be ok if hardly any people had variety in their binds, like in 3bo or something. (Although they always seem to attack the wrong monsters dps wise)It'd certainly be fun to try thoughby that logic you might actually be worthwhile to go with a spear.it really depends on the stab defense ratings of various monsters.unfortunately I don't have that information available right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Point is you have improved dps against ccs weak things and stab weak things. Not it's comparable dps to slash weak things.But yes, I do think primal baxe + either one is probably better.It'd maybe be ok if hardly any people had variety in their binds, like in 3bo or something. (Although they always seem to attack the wrong monsters dps wise)It'd certainly be fun to try thoughby that logic you might actually be worthwhile to go with a spear.it really depends on the stab defense ratings of various monsters.unfortunately I don't have that information available right now.What plausible reason would there ever be to bind spear over rapier? giving up a major chunk of your dps for sub-par crush attack doesn't really sound good, not to mention, a spear has just as little slash attack(the primary style for dg) as the rapier anyway, so you'd lose alot. Coupled with ccs, other than the few monsters i mentioned, you would have really great dps on all the other monsters, so from that perspective it might be worth it. As for the stab def, as rapier has 25% more raw damage, i don't think spear would beat it for stab at any defense rating. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyw3000 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 at 90atk/99str, primal maul + prom rapier + csb+ ssh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGreens Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 prom 2h+rapier is better iirc fyi, ladies dig the talonsHot man of the Trickster Pirates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share Posted June 5, 2011 prom 2h+rapier is better iirc Yeah, you basically NEED a high-accuracy slash weapon in dungeoneering. If we had more binds, a primal maul wouldn't be a bad idea at 120, but as it stands, no. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Primal baxe>primal maul in every crush based attack situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share Posted June 5, 2011 Primal baxe>primal maul in every crush based attack situation I don't think that's necessarily true. The Ancient and I discussed this once, but I won't argue about it. I don't have any data. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Primal baxe>primal maul in every crush based attack situation I don't think that's necessarily true. The Ancient and I discussed this once, but I won't argue about it. I don't have any data.with str boost and turm it's certainly true. Otherwise it's only true on things you just don't want to crush(say thundy). First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Coming from someone who used to use a rapier - it can't do squat on skeletons. I spent more than 5 minutes trying to kill a lv 136 or so skeleton mage with gorg rapier + tactician. the point of this thread is secondary binds.It assumes you have a battle axe/2h bound AS WELL AS this bind Of course the rapier is a horrible solo bind. Stop using tactician btw, use berserker, so you can use your weapon on both styles with the ring Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fractite_pride Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Ok I'm going to have to get Primal gauntlets to go with my baxe, CSB and SSH.Just one thing- What's the best floors to hunt for primal gauntlets? Is it 8-11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Ok I'm going to have to get Primal gauntlets to go with my baxe, CSB and SSH.Just one thing- What's the best floors to hunt for primal gauntlets? Is it 8-11?Plane-Freezer Lakhrahnaz drops gauntlets, and he starts to appear at f6. To'Kash appears at f9. Therefore, the best floor to hunt for Plane-Freezer would be f6-8. BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fractite_pride Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Ok I'm going to have to get Primal gauntlets to go with my baxe, CSB and SSH.Just one thing- What's the best floors to hunt for primal gauntlets? Is it 8-11?Plane-Freezer Lakhrahnaz drops gauntlets, and he starts to appear at f6. To'Kash appears at f9. Therefore, the best floor to hunt for Plane-Freezer would be f6-8.great thanks i'll set up a c6 gauntlets hunt later then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_Ne_Pker Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I was wondering if a Saggitarian Long/Shortbow with Saggi Arrows should be considered as a 3th bind, since you can still use that bow against Necrolord/Mages/Demons Findolfin || Total 2293 || Combat 138 - 126 || 313 Quest Points~ Watch out, beasties. Findolfin is here to hunt you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieBrown Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 No; don't bother with sagi long/shortGenerally there's at least 1 hhb on your team anywayAnd b axe/2h can take down a mage fairly fast as it is with zerker rings & turm flashingHaving a sagi short/long is pointless Main Account - Max cape achieved 10th September 2011 Noob Account - 2300 total and climbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunokiller Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Staff users should be chosen to do portal rooms in warped floors if possible.They should be chosen too if there are any magic puzzles that require boosting. My blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Staff users should be chosen to do portal rooms in warped floors if possible.They should be chosen too if there are any magic puzzles that require boosting.Oh, what's the logic for staff users doing portal rooms? In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 CSB refills when you log. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Not that a ccs user really runs out of casts in a floor unless you mage all zombies and skeletons too. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Not that a ccs user really rarely runs out of casts in a floor unless you mage all zombies and skeletons too. Fixed? Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articultural Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 If you don't mage zombies and skeletons as well, you're not that much help at a GD once other mage-weak monsters are dead. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunokiller Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 i mage like everything except from some bosses and merc/t11 range/mage / books and often don't run out of casts. My blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LitterBug Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Staff users should be chosen to do portal rooms in warped floors if possible.They should be chosen too if there are any magic puzzles that require boosting.Oh, what's the logic for staff users doing portal rooms? I'm not 100% sure, but for the portal room - you're supposed to have everybody stand on a specific tileHowever, there is supposedly a glitch where if one person stands on the tile and then relogs - the room unlocksPresumably, this would fill their csb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunokiller Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Presumably, this would fill their csb It does. My blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 If you don't mage zombies and skeletons as well, you're not that much help at a GD once other mage-weak monsters are dead. :P That really only applies when you have a Cele staff. Without that, a battle axe is better on zombies, and all skeletons other then the 154 ones. Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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