Unafraid to bot

[ForsakenMage]

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=) So let's get back on the topic okay?

[muuuuuuuuuu]

I don't care if people bot, it doesn't change how I play rs. I don't see why people care so much.

[ReapMe]

 

 

You're God damn right I'll put my needs before the needs of a videogame. Anyone who doesn't needs to get their priorities in order.

 

...So don't play runescape....? People who cheat on a game and try to run businesses off of them obviously care a lot more about RS than casual players like me. I wouldn't take the risk of downloading potential trojans or go through the effort of purchasing a bot or RWT just to enlarge my e-peen on an online video game, but a lot of people on TIF obviously would. If grinding sucks...just don't do it?

 

Also, I'm pretty sure i could make 25 grand on minimum wage with the time it took people to get lvl 138 and win 6B staking, or do something even more productive. So the whole idea of RWT seems incredibly unprofitable and useless, unless you're in the RWT business with like a billion bots doing work for you. But I seriously doubt any RWT company owner makes more money than any middle class american or person that just graduated from a decent college, considering the selling of virtual goods is a completely unstable and shady industry.

 

 

 

Well that makes you either an idiot, or completely ignorant of how profitable running bots or getting lucky staking + selling is. Likely both.

 

 

lololol have fun botting/grinding w/e on runescape to pay off college while i go to college on schoarships/grants kthx.

 

Ah see no, I spent many years on RS getting these levels while going to school and working.

 

I made the equivalent of about $5,000 in 4 days on this game, not in 10 years. That's where you have it wrong.

 

 

But there's no reasoning with a self-proclaimed troll, and speaking of rule enforcement, I thought one of the rules was no trolls/trolling. Chop chop, Danq? Or are you too busy man-handling other posts elsewhere?

 

I'm pretty sure the time spent getting the money to go staking/getting stats probably has to be taken into account if you want to equate the amount of money you earn on runescape vs life.

 

I acquired that money and stats whilst playing normally. But if you really need a breakdown.

 

you can buy one melee bot for probably 20 bucks, and use that to get 5 accounts to maxed melee in a few weeks, can sell those accounts on various other websites for real cash, use some of that cash to buy gold for a single account and go staking with it, all essentially while you're away from your computer. From there you can melee box and get lucky, or use the gold to get your Magic to 99 with another bot (already paid for due to aforementioned) and mage box.

 

Or you can be like a friend of my friend's who makes 200m a day by having multiple accounts farming Black Demons for ashes and various other drops, while he's asleep / at school.

 

So if you want to tell me you can make 150 dollars while you're in school, then kudos, but most can't.

 

If you take the risks involved, botting and RWTing can be more profitable then a lot of jobs requiring degrees. And especially since Jagex seems to be turning a blind eye to most of it (As I peer over my friends list filled with unbanned people who have all made hundreds - thousands RWTing), it becomes more and more of an option to consider daily.

 

And you say people who are against botting care too much about runescape. LOL.

 

I fail to see that as a rebuttal of any shape or form, so I'm going to walk away with my own personal victory, take heed of your forum name, and ignore any further posts made by your stupid ass in an attempt to get a rise out of me.

 

But log, i just wanted to inflate your internetz ethug/e-dealer e-peen 4 u.

 

But hey, it's just runescape. Don't take the game too seriously broski.

 

 

 

I'm confused. If anything, it's the people who don't actually care about RS that bot it.

Those who take it seriously (presumably) want to play it - despite the grinding nature.

 

Plus, botting can be extremely profitable (especially if you have a few computers/a decent internet provider.

Just look at all the bots at the blue dragon dungeon in the Taverley resource dungeon (there's at least 3-4 per world at ALL times of the day.

95% of them have the same gear/similar names. I'm sure that many of these are owned by one person/company/whatever these botting groups are called these days.

 

If you think about it - it's probably not hard at all to make one mill in three hours on a bot. If you have a couple of computers - that can easily add up.

I wouldn't bot because for me, runescape is a game and it's something to do when I'm relaxing from a long day at school.

THAT being said, if I were to get paid for running a program on my computer and just leaving it on - I would probably say yes.

 

Yes, I know a guy who runs 200 accounts on virtual systems, solely for the purpose of gold. Why do you think their are rwting sites? Would there not be if it wasn't a viable option for making money? And all you really have to do is activate a bot, and let it run on it's on, barely any interaction is involved.

 

Because people who don't bot are generally people who don't feel pressured to grind to 99, and thus don't feel the need to bot. The person that bots to 99 agililty obviously wants 99 agility more than the person who just doesn't train agility because he CBA to do it and doesn't play for 99s, because for some reason the botter feels the need to have 99 agility on the account.

 

If the person doesn't care about playing the game, why would he even be botting it? Only explanation is that there is some external reason for having 99 agility, or the person has some insatiable addiction to RS that he can't be comfortable unless he is constantly gaining those crucial expees.

 

Just because they bot for levels doesn't mean they don't enjoy the game. They don't like the part of the game that they bot =0

[Andy]

I don't care if people bot, it doesn't change how I play rs. I don't see why people care so much.

It becomes a problem when you can't even get a frost dragon spot because they're so full of botters. People aren't afraid of being banned so they spend the time getting 85 dungeoneering properly and then bot frost dragons.

[i_trollz_u]

 

 

You're God damn right I'll put my needs before the needs of a videogame. Anyone who doesn't needs to get their priorities in order.

 

...So don't play runescape....? People who cheat on a game and try to run businesses off of them obviously care a lot more about RS than casual players like me. I wouldn't take the risk of downloading potential trojans or go through the effort of purchasing a bot or RWT just to enlarge my e-peen on an online video game, but a lot of people on TIF obviously would. If grinding sucks...just don't do it?

 

Also, I'm pretty sure i could make 25 grand on minimum wage with the time it took people to get lvl 138 and win 6B staking, or do something even more productive. So the whole idea of RWT seems incredibly unprofitable and useless, unless you're in the RWT business with like a billion bots doing work for you. But I seriously doubt any RWT company owner makes more money than any middle class american or person that just graduated from a decent college, considering the selling of virtual goods is a completely unstable and shady industry.

 

 

 

Well that makes you either an idiot, or completely ignorant of how profitable running bots or getting lucky staking + selling is. Likely both.

 

 

lololol have fun botting/grinding w/e on runescape to pay off college while i go to college on schoarships/grants kthx.

 

Ah see no, I spent many years on RS getting these levels while going to school and working.

 

I made the equivalent of about $5,000 in 4 days on this game, not in 10 years. That's where you have it wrong.

 

 

But there's no reasoning with a self-proclaimed troll, and speaking of rule enforcement, I thought one of the rules was no trolls/trolling. Chop chop, Danq? Or are you too busy man-handling other posts elsewhere?

 

I'm pretty sure the time spent getting the money to go staking/getting stats probably has to be taken into account if you want to equate the amount of money you earn on runescape vs life.

 

I acquired that money and stats whilst playing normally. But if you really need a breakdown.

 

you can buy one melee bot for probably 20 bucks, and use that to get 5 accounts to maxed melee in a few weeks, can sell those accounts on various other websites for real cash, use some of that cash to buy gold for a single account and go staking with it, all essentially while you're away from your computer. From there you can melee box and get lucky, or use the gold to get your Magic to 99 with another bot (already paid for due to aforementioned) and mage box.

 

Or you can be like a friend of my friend's who makes 200m a day by having multiple accounts farming Black Demons for ashes and various other drops, while he's asleep / at school.

 

So if you want to tell me you can make 150 dollars while you're in school, then kudos, but most can't.

 

If you take the risks involved, botting and RWTing can be more profitable then a lot of jobs requiring degrees. And especially since Jagex seems to be turning a blind eye to most of it (As I peer over my friends list filled with unbanned people who have all made hundreds - thousands RWTing), it becomes more and more of an option to consider daily.

 

And you say people who are against botting care too much about runescape. LOL.

 

I fail to see that as a rebuttal of any shape or form, so I'm going to walk away with my own personal victory, take heed of your forum name, and ignore any further posts made by your stupid ass in an attempt to get a rise out of me.

 

But log, i just wanted to inflate your internetz ethug/e-dealer e-peen 4 u.

 

But hey, it's just runescape. Don't take the game too seriously broski.

 

 

 

I'm confused. If anything, it's the people who don't actually care about RS that bot it.

Those who take it seriously (presumably) want to play it - despite the grinding nature.

 

Plus, botting can be extremely profitable (especially if you have a few computers/a decent internet provider.

Just look at all the bots at the blue dragon dungeon in the Taverley resource dungeon (there's at least 3-4 per world at ALL times of the day.

95% of them have the same gear/similar names. I'm sure that many of these are owned by one person/company/whatever these botting groups are called these days.

 

If you think about it - it's probably not hard at all to make one mill in three hours on a bot. If you have a couple of computers - that can easily add up.

I wouldn't bot because for me, runescape is a game and it's something to do when I'm relaxing from a long day at school.

THAT being said, if I were to get paid for running a program on my computer and just leaving it on - I would probably say yes.

 

Yes, I know a guy who runs 200 accounts on virtual systems, solely for the purpose of gold. Why do you think their are rwting sites? Would there not be if it wasn't a viable option for making money? And all you really have to do is activate a bot, and let it run on it's on, barely any interaction is involved.

 

Because people who don't bot are generally people who don't feel pressured to grind to 99, and thus don't feel the need to bot. The person that bots to 99 agililty obviously wants 99 agility more than the person who just doesn't train agility because he CBA to do it and doesn't play for 99s, because for some reason the botter feels the need to have 99 agility on the account.

 

If the person doesn't care about playing the game, why would he even be botting it? Only explanation is that there is some external reason for having 99 agility, or the person has some insatiable addiction to RS that he can't be comfortable unless he is constantly gaining those crucial expees.

 

Just because they bot for levels doesn't mean they don't enjoy the game. They don't like the part of the game that they bot =0

 

Which happens to be 99% of the game.

Also, someone who didn't bot and just didn't try and achieve 99 agility would care less about the game, both for the grind and about the part that the botter thought was fun, so again it is asinine to say that people that play the game care too much compared to people that bot.

 

Someone bot 24/7s and pays money for a party hat, because they don't like grinding and feel some sort of need to get high stats. I'm someone that doesn't care about getting a party hat, wasting time grinding, and spends the majority of my time pking with occasional farm runs for about 1-2 hours a day, because i find it fun. Who do you think cares more?

[muuuuuuuuuu]

I don't care if people bot, it doesn't change how I play rs. I don't see why people care so much.

It becomes a problem when you can't even get a frost dragon spot because they're so full of botters. People aren't afraid of being banned so they spend the time getting 85 dungeoneering properly and then bot frost dragons.

I enjoy going [bleep] with the frosty bots, half killing the dragons and stuff

[Andy]

I don't care if people bot, it doesn't change how I play rs. I don't see why people care so much.

It becomes a problem when you can't even get a frost dragon spot because they're so full of botters. People aren't afraid of being banned so they spend the time getting 85 dungeoneering properly and then bot frost dragons.

I enjoy going [bleep] with the frosty bots, half killing the dragons and stuff

But they're affecting your kill rate - affecting your income. How can that not change how you play rs?

[muuuuuuuuuu]

I don't care if people bot, it doesn't change how I play rs. I don't see why people care so much.

It becomes a problem when you can't even get a frost dragon spot because they're so full of botters. People aren't afraid of being banned so they spend the time getting 85 dungeoneering properly and then bot frost dragons.

I enjoy going [bleep] with the frosty bots, half killing the dragons and stuff

But they're affecting your kill rate - affecting your income. How can that not change how you play rs?

I just play to have fun. who gives a [cabbage] about kill rate when you're having fun?

[LitterBug]

 

 

You're God damn right I'll put my needs before the needs of a videogame. Anyone who doesn't needs to get their priorities in order.

 

...So don't play runescape....? People who cheat on a game and try to run businesses off of them obviously care a lot more about RS than casual players like me. I wouldn't take the risk of downloading potential trojans or go through the effort of purchasing a bot or RWT just to enlarge my e-peen on an online video game, but a lot of people on TIF obviously would. If grinding sucks...just don't do it?

 

Also, I'm pretty sure i could make 25 grand on minimum wage with the time it took people to get lvl 138 and win 6B staking, or do something even more productive. So the whole idea of RWT seems incredibly unprofitable and useless, unless you're in the RWT business with like a billion bots doing work for you. But I seriously doubt any RWT company owner makes more money than any middle class american or person that just graduated from a decent college, considering the selling of virtual goods is a completely unstable and shady industry.

 

 

 

Well that makes you either an idiot, or completely ignorant of how profitable running bots or getting lucky staking + selling is. Likely both.

 

 

lololol have fun botting/grinding w/e on runescape to pay off college while i go to college on schoarships/grants kthx.

 

Ah see no, I spent many years on RS getting these levels while going to school and working.

 

I made the equivalent of about $5,000 in 4 days on this game, not in 10 years. That's where you have it wrong.

 

 

But there's no reasoning with a self-proclaimed troll, and speaking of rule enforcement, I thought one of the rules was no trolls/trolling. Chop chop, Danq? Or are you too busy man-handling other posts elsewhere?

 

I'm pretty sure the time spent getting the money to go staking/getting stats probably has to be taken into account if you want to equate the amount of money you earn on runescape vs life.

 

I acquired that money and stats whilst playing normally. But if you really need a breakdown.

 

you can buy one melee bot for probably 20 bucks, and use that to get 5 accounts to maxed melee in a few weeks, can sell those accounts on various other websites for real cash, use some of that cash to buy gold for a single account and go staking with it, all essentially while you're away from your computer. From there you can melee box and get lucky, or use the gold to get your Magic to 99 with another bot (already paid for due to aforementioned) and mage box.

 

Or you can be like a friend of my friend's who makes 200m a day by having multiple accounts farming Black Demons for ashes and various other drops, while he's asleep / at school.

 

So if you want to tell me you can make 150 dollars while you're in school, then kudos, but most can't.

 

If you take the risks involved, botting and RWTing can be more profitable then a lot of jobs requiring degrees. And especially since Jagex seems to be turning a blind eye to most of it (As I peer over my friends list filled with unbanned people who have all made hundreds - thousands RWTing), it becomes more and more of an option to consider daily.

 

And you say people who are against botting care too much about runescape. LOL.

 

I fail to see that as a rebuttal of any shape or form, so I'm going to walk away with my own personal victory, take heed of your forum name, and ignore any further posts made by your stupid ass in an attempt to get a rise out of me.

 

But log, i just wanted to inflate your internetz ethug/e-dealer e-peen 4 u.

 

But hey, it's just runescape. Don't take the game too seriously broski.

 

 

 

I'm confused. If anything, it's the people who don't actually care about RS that bot it.

Those who take it seriously (presumably) want to play it - despite the grinding nature.

 

Plus, botting can be extremely profitable (especially if you have a few computers/a decent internet provider.

Just look at all the bots at the blue dragon dungeon in the Taverley resource dungeon (there's at least 3-4 per world at ALL times of the day.

95% of them have the same gear/similar names. I'm sure that many of these are owned by one person/company/whatever these botting groups are called these days.

 

If you think about it - it's probably not hard at all to make one mill in three hours on a bot. If you have a couple of computers - that can easily add up.

I wouldn't bot because for me, runescape is a game and it's something to do when I'm relaxing from a long day at school.

THAT being said, if I were to get paid for running a program on my computer and just leaving it on - I would probably say yes.

 

Yes, I know a guy who runs 200 accounts on virtual systems, solely for the purpose of gold. Why do you think their are rwting sites? Would there not be if it wasn't a viable option for making money? And all you really have to do is activate a bot, and let it run on it's on, barely any interaction is involved.

 

Because people who don't bot are generally people who don't feel pressured to grind to 99, and thus don't feel the need to bot. The person that bots to 99 agililty obviously wants 99 agility more than the person who just doesn't train agility because he CBA to do it and doesn't play for 99s, because for some reason the botter feels the need to have 99 agility on the account.

 

If the person doesn't care about playing the game, why would he even be botting it? Only explanation is that there is some external reason for having 99 agility, or the person has some insatiable addiction to RS that he can't be comfortable unless he is constantly gaining those crucial expees.

 

Just because they bot for levels doesn't mean they don't enjoy the game. They don't like the part of the game that they bot =0

 

Which happens to be 99% of the game.

Also, someone who didn't bot and just didn't try and achieve 99 agility would care less about the game, both for the grind and about the part that the botter thought was fun, so again it is asinine to say that people that play the game care too much compared to people that bot.

 

Someone bot 24/7s and pays money for a party hat, because they don't like grinding and feel some sort of need to get high stats. I'm someone that doesn't care about getting a party hat, wasting time grinding, and spends the majority of my time pking with occasional farm runs for about 1-2 hours a day, because i find it fun. Who do you think cares more?

 

You provide valid examples - but this is not a clear cut case.

You keep mentioning about those players who "bot" to 99 agility? I bet that most of the agility bots have a specific goal in mind rather then 99 agility.

This also the reason that you will see more bots at high level resource gatherings then bots who just run agility courses all day long.

 

I would not be surprised if >90% of the bots on runescape are actually just RWT trying to gold farm. In that case, you're definitely the one who cares more about RS and they're just in it for the money.

 

Either way, I'm not sure what the point you're trying to prove is.

 

Your claim seems to be that a main reason for botting isn't RWT. Which is erroneous to say the least. Why the hell do you think people are botting at all these places which provide money per hour?

The thousands of people mining pure essence sure is hell isn't mining for the 5k? or whatever nonsense exp it is per hour.

Same for yews, coal, blue dragons, etc.

 

You keep making an point of saying "RWT is really stupid - I can make more money then botters in the same time they spend botting."

That's a horrible argument. You can be working, but what's to stop the botter from botting and working as well?

If you're making X dollars an hour - are you saying you would absolutely refuse any extra income from leaving your computer on?

 

The RWT/botting business is so big only because it is profitable and has a reason to exist. If nobodys making money - I HIGHLY doubt that there would be as many bots running around doing various "money-making" tasks.

[Andy]

I don't care if people bot, it doesn't change how I play rs. I don't see why people care so much.

It becomes a problem when you can't even get a frost dragon spot because they're so full of botters. People aren't afraid of being banned so they spend the time getting 85 dungeoneering properly and then bot frost dragons.

I enjoy going [bleep] with the frosty bots, half killing the dragons and stuff

But they're affecting your kill rate - affecting your income. How can that not change how you play rs?

I just play to have fun. who gives a [cabbage] about kill rate when you're having fun?

Well if you find having 0 gp and doing gathering skills fun, go ahead.

[muuuuuuuuuu]

I don't care if people bot, it doesn't change how I play rs. I don't see why people care so much.

It becomes a problem when you can't even get a frost dragon spot because they're so full of botters. People aren't afraid of being banned so they spend the time getting 85 dungeoneering properly and then bot frost dragons.

I enjoy going [bleep] with the frosty bots, half killing the dragons and stuff

But they're affecting your kill rate - affecting your income. How can that not change how you play rs?

I just play to have fun. who gives a [cabbage] about kill rate when you're having fun?

Well if you find having 0 gp and doing gathering skills fun, go ahead.

hey cutting mahogany is 12k per 27 logs

[Stev]

The thousands of people mining pure essence sure is hell isn't mining for the 5k? or whatever nonsense exp it is per hour.

If I botted... ;)... Which I don't! Nope! Nuh-uh! No way, no how! (Phew, this post is safe from being deleted)... I wouldn't care if I woke up to an extra 5K XP of an extra 5M XP. That's time saved, either way, and more XP then I went to bed with.

[Unb34t4bl3]

I'm pretty sure the time spent getting the money to go staking/getting stats probably has to be taken into account if you want to equate the amount of money you earn on runescape vs life.

 

Staking is no different than gambling. It's basically gambling real money for the traders out there. And as far as getting stats... what time? The 30 seconds it probably takes a bot user to load up their client and click run? If you're "bot farming" there is what we could call an initial investment. That is, the time required to set everything up plus the money required to buy more computer hardware and/or rent virtual space to run bots on. Once you're up on running the goal is have it all pay back the initial investment for you, and then anything after that is pure profit. I have no idea how easy or difficult this is to do, but I'd wager this is pretty easy compared to what it used to be considering Jagex just doesn't seem to care anymore.

[brad1431]

why doesnt jagex just do something smart like make frosties in kuradel dung and you would have to be on task to kill them? Wouldnt that help?

[i_trollz_u]

I'm pretty sure the time spent getting the money to go staking/getting stats probably has to be taken into account if you want to equate the amount of money you earn on runescape vs life.

 

Staking is no different than gambling. It's basically gambling real money for the traders out there. And as far as getting stats... what time? The 30 seconds it probably takes a bot user to load up their client and click run? If you're "bot farming" there is what we could call an initial investment. That is, the time required to set everything up plus the money required to buy more computer hardware and/or rent virtual space to run bots on. Once you're up on running the goal is have it all pay back the initial investment for you, and then anything after that is pure profit. I have no idea how easy or difficult this is to do, but I'd wager this is pretty easy compared to what it used to be considering Jagex just doesn't seem to care anymore.

 

I was referring to stakers who were RWT with their profits, not botters. Although I'm sure a ton of the really rich stakers probably botted their stats too.

 

Not really relevant, but I also never understood how you could earn a profit staking, 2 maxed players doing any form of staking, especially boxing should result in no profit statistically. I'd only ever imagine some sick pure ever consistently profiting off of staking.

[Bows]

why doesnt jagex just do something smart like make frosties in kuradel dung and you would have to be on task to kill them? Wouldnt that help?

Because they are unlocked by doing Dungeoneering. Derp.

[brad1431]

ok derp, make them not only unlocked by DGing, but ALSO in kuradel Dung..... is everyone who plays RS a stupid 12-14 year old kid???? :rolleyes:

[Lose No Hope]

ok derp, make them not only unlocked by DGing, but ALSO in kuradel Dung..... is everyone who plays RS a stupid 12-14 year old kid???? :rolleyes:

First, calling him a stupid kid (which he is not) doesn't help your claim at all. Also, how would having it in both kuradal's dung and by DGing make the situation any better?

[brad1431]

you would have to be on task to kill frosties, so botters wouldnt be able to camp there all the time

[brad1431]

that and I have never heard an adult use the word "derp" only a dumb kid would say that

[K4ylan]

why doesnt jagex just do something smart like make frosties in kuradel dung and you would have to be on task to kill them? Wouldnt that help?

 

While this would cull botters, it would also harm true players much more to be of an use.

[Lose No Hope]

you would have to be on task to kill frosties, so botters wouldnt be able to camp there all the time

So now you're forcing people to train slayer after they have trained dung just for the task...

[Patr1ck]

you would have to be on task to kill frosties, so botters wouldnt be able to camp there all the time

So now you're forcing people to train slayer after they have trained dung just for the task...

 

Don't bash it, it's not a bad idea.

[brad1431]

is that better or worse then having bots ruin your exp, kill rate and profit, by flooding the market with frost bones?

[iamsomebody1]

They should change the frost dragon req too 99 dg/138 combat