Unafraid to bot

[Dragonlordjl]

PKers comprise a much smaller portion of RS than most people realize. The majority of the people who voted "Yes" were most likely voting in favor of the Free Trade and were indifferent to the Wilderness update. There was also likely a bunch of RWT sites having their minions vote "Yes" too.

[n_odie]

but the more interesting argument is to actually debate whether jagex cares more about profit (paying members) or the integrity of its content.....

A popular botting forum/site has 43921 Registered members...

 

Not all of them are members I'm sure but still does bring out an interesting beginning calculation.

 

Fictitiously, if half of them were members, paying.... 5 USD.... that comes out to $108,805.50 a month. While there is prob less than that, it is no small amount. And that is 1, one, uno, botting site.

[das]

The maturity on this thread was fantastic to start out with but seems to be going downhill. 2 Months ago the users who are "wanting to talk freely about botting" asked that we become stricter on rule breaking admittance, and now that it's the case, they are complaining about the rule that THEY wanted. :rolleyes:

 

"OMG mods suck!" comments are ridiculous, they are just enforcing the rules. Rules that were requested by the community. To get on there backs because of it is one of the most childish things I have seen. Grow up.

 

The staff made changes before, if you wanted rules to be changed, the link to the feedback thread has been posted a few times. Use it.

You know as well as I do how close of a line it is to walk, personally I felt admitting rulebreaking should apply to achievement threads and not be used as ammunition to warn/punish/remove posts, whatever has been, or might be done to curtail intelligent discussion.

 

Part of the problem though is people never see whats removed so to some users, various levels of quality posts were removed. I've been following this for awhile out of sheer interest and haven't personally seen much groundbreaking thought removed, then again, I've got no way to doublecheck that.

 

 

 

A little more on topic, this thread is very interesting. I read some of the bot/hacking forums when I was an admin as there where connections to people pm'ing the staff for information and it amazes me how many people bot, not just to play but to make rl money. People making a Billion Gp or more every few months from running bot farms blows my mind. I voted no on free trade as this is what would "kill rs" before and what will "kill rs" now.

 

That blew my mind too, and is one factor I'm thrilled to not touch anymore, i'd say we got 2 or 3 fraudulent info requests we had to deny weekly. lol

 

 

I gotta admit I can't see the posts removed (this user business is rough) I have to admit there were some posts I meant to reply too that have been removed, it's annoying for me as a user

[All_Is_Great]

This was a great thread.

 

Umm started with one person saying how they don't approve of botting and everyone just started to [cabbage] on him. Then it went to the regular "TIF sucks up to Jagex" tantrum, and the back and forth flaming :rolleyes:

 

You say people who bot don't enjoy the grind, here's an idea:

 

Don't grind! :shock: If you hate the game so much that you have to bot it? Doesn't that mean you actually care more about the GAME? They spent money on a bot to play a GAME for them, I'm confused.

 

For those making RWT sites:

In the end, they're making $$ illegally, and for that, I think it's wrong. Sure, they're smart, efficient, w/e, I still think it's wrong.

[Vann]

 

For those making RWT sites:

In the end, they're making $$ illegally, and for that, I think it's wrong. Sure, they're smart, efficient, w/e, I still think it's wrong.

 

It isn't illegal, it is just against the rules of a GAME. There is no law applied to it (unless you don't pay taxes on income... :shame: Tisk Tisk) . I guess you could say "ohh you are selling copyrighted material" or "RSGP gets people addicted to a game so its a drug" or some other bull. To those making a living or making extra spending money off of a video game then more power to you, to those of you that are hating on people making money off being smart... get over it. Jagex doesn't care anymore (if they ever did). If you don't like it, don't do it, but don't put other people down because they do something. Like someone said earlier about smoking. If you don't like smoking then don't do it, but if you do, then do.

 

peace,

Vann

[n64jive]

This entire thread is a joke. It's good to see that some of the TIF community have their heads on straight and aren't being brainwashed/butt-raped by jagex. To call someone "Scum" because they don't play a video game the way it is supposed to be played is completely crossing the line. To compare the personality of a botter to that of a person who lies/cheats/steals in real life is completely crossing the line. To the guy who cussed out his "friend" and removed him from his friends list, he is better off not having friends like you.

 

Everyone by now knows, and I shouldn't have to say it, but runescape is a GAME. A game that takes many, many hours to get to the "ideal" part of the game. I have friends who bot. I have real life friends who bot. They started the game years after me and have better stats in many skills. Does this piss me off? No. I enjoy doing activities with them, such as boss-hunting, or other activities that require high level skills. The only way for them to have achieved that otherwise would have been to turn into a runescape playing zombie and grind out the levels. Nights when we went out to the bars or to parties, they would have had to play runescape instead to get where they are at now.

 

I feel like a good chunk of my life was wasted by getting some of the skills I got to by grinding it all out. I could have focused on so many different things that would have bettered my life. By the way, to those who are interested in programming/engineering/computer science, botting could help you gain knowledge/skill in that profession. How does runescape better your life? It doesn't.

 

So to those of you who the judge the personality of someone poorly because they choose to automate the grind of runescape. To those that call these people scum, and compare them to people who cheat to get ahead in life? Fathom this situation for example:

 

Jimmy and Rob are in college together. Jimmy and Rob both play runescape with similiar level accounts. Jimmy thinks Rob is scum, because Rob gets those level by leaving his computer to "play iteself" while he is at class. Rob hardly ever sees Jimmy at class, because Jimmy is playing runescape. Rob hardly ever sees Jimmy at social gatherings because Jimmy is playing runescape. Rob asked Jimmy if he wanted to goto the REC to play some sports, but Jimmy refused because he wanted to get 96 runecrafting. Jimmy then proceded to call Rob scum, because he noticed that he already has 99 runecrafting. Rob goes to the gym and better's his health by exercising. Jimmy begins to develop plaque in his arteries.

 

Next semester rolls around, Rob get's an intership for a big company. He is going to help them develop software. Jimmy drop out of college. He failed most of his finals. He lost his scholarships.

 

5 years later, Rob works for a fortune 500 company developing software. Jimmy works at a Grocery Store.

Jimmy and Rob both have very close skill totals on runescape. Jimmy is legit. Rob is scum.

 

This may or may not be based on a true story.

[Pinata]

I think if people bot on RS, they shouldn't be playing it, because it's cheating. If you don't like the grind, then go play a freaking different game. Only reason why half of these anti-jagex people are still playing this game is because they invested to much time/don't wanna lose their elite feeling of power on rs. The other day a 138 asked how I botted my Dungeoneering, and it's like dude you don't need to be some elitest 138 deushbag to train the god damn skill. I agree I'd rather have like 100$ then 1b RS Gp, but my goal when playing Rs isn't to be efficient or to make money. It's just to relax. Not to mention if you're playing RS for irl money, probably not the best money making method you could be doing (whether or not your at the computer), however for a high schooler I'll admit its not a bad idea. Maybe, its just because how I was raised, cheating was never tolerated. Tbh I'd rather F a final then cheat and get a C or an A. Honesty is a good value to have whether it's irl or on a video game, but people get to fed up about things and try to make themselves "better" than another person. But thats just me I'm one of those people who are contempt with 2nd or 3rd or any other place. Why?, cuz I'm [bleep]ing proud of who I am, and people should learn to have faith in themselves.

 

 

 

Sad part is all the people here supporting RWT, would freak out if Jagex started selling RS Gp, I have no doubt in my mind.

[curtis95112]

I think if people bot on RS, they shouldn't be playing it

 

 

Sad part is all the people here supporting RWT, would freak out if Jagex started selling RS Gp, I have no doubt in my mind.

 

1st part: Perhaps, maybe not. A lot of people play RS for the parts of it you can't reach without grinding for months.

 

2nd part: True, yet irrelevant. People mostly support the sellers (and even then usually only support the "Oh I've been playing for 6 years and have a 20b bank, I'd also like to pay for college" type, not the sweatshop type. Well, unless you want to get into the influence of bots/gold farmers on the RS economy but that's a slightly different subject.) of gp, not the buyers. They support them because in the end Runescape is a game which cannot take precedence over real life. In short, we're saying that it's a respectable decision if not the most honorable one.

On the other hand, Jagex selling RSgp would ruin the game. Considering that we're on a fansite, it's perfectly reasonable for people to freak out.

[Pinata]

I think if people bot on RS, they shouldn't be playing it

 

 

Sad part is all the people here supporting RWT, would freak out if Jagex started selling RS Gp, I have no doubt in my mind.

 

1st part: Perhaps, maybe not. A lot of people play RS for the parts of it you can't reach without grinding for months.

 

2nd part: True, yet irrelevant. People mostly support the sellers (and even then usually only support the "Oh I've been playing for 6 years and have a 20b bank, I'd also like to pay for college" type, not the sweatshop type. Well, unless you want to get into the influence of bots/gold farmers on the RS economy but that's a slightly different subject.) of gp, not the buyers. They support them because in the end Runescape is a game which cannot take precedence over real life. In short, we're saying that it's a respectable decision if not the most honorable one.

On the other hand, Jagex selling RSgp would ruin the game. Considering that we're on a fansite, it's perfectly reasonable for people to freak out.

 

Ye, I suppose your right about a lot of the fun parts take time to access, and is a boring grind but oddly enough I like how the games takes a lot of time to complete. Just it bothers me when I can put so much time into this game, then someone bots and without any effort achieves the same results, because then its like why did I waste all my time doing this.

 

I do agree that irl money > rs money, if someone offered me 1000$ for my account and I knew they were legit, I'd do it. I guess its just the botting that gets on my nerves, I don't care to much for the bots that get money and sell it to others (because they're not trying to be "better" on rs, they just want some irl cash), but I hate bots that get money and buy nice armor to use/show off or bot skills to show off.

[Viv]

This entire thread is a joke. It's good to see that some of the TIF community have their heads on straight and aren't being brainwashed/butt-raped by jagex. To call someone "Scum" because they don't play a video game the way it is supposed to be played is completely crossing the line. To compare the personality of a botter to that of a person who lies/cheats/steals in real life is completely crossing the line. To the guy who cussed out his "friend" and removed him from his friends list, he is better off not having friends like you.

 

Everyone by now knows, and I shouldn't have to say it, but runescape is a GAME. A game that takes many, many hours to get to the "ideal" part of the game. I have friends who bot. I have real life friends who bot. They started the game years after me and have better stats in many skills. Does this piss me off? No. I enjoy doing activities with them, such as boss-hunting, or other activities that require high level skills. The only way for them to have achieved that otherwise would have been to turn into a runescape playing zombie and grind out the levels. Nights when we went out to the bars or to parties, they would have had to play runescape instead to get where they are at now.

 

I feel like a good chunk of my life was wasted by getting some of the skills I got to by grinding it all out. I could have focused on so many different things that would have bettered my life. By the way, to those who are interested in programming/engineering/computer science, botting could help you gain knowledge/skill in that profession. How does runescape better your life? It doesn't.

 

So to those of you who the judge the personality of someone poorly because they choose to automate the grind of runescape. To those that call these people scum, and compare them to people who cheat to get ahead in life? Fathom this situation for example:

 

Jimmy and Rob are in college together. Jimmy and Rob both play runescape with similiar level accounts. Jimmy thinks Rob is scum, because Rob gets those level by leaving his computer to "play iteself" while he is at class. Rob hardly ever sees Jimmy at class, because Jimmy is playing runescape. Rob hardly ever sees Jimmy at social gatherings because Jimmy is playing runescape. Rob asked Jimmy if he wanted to goto the REC to play some sports, but Jimmy refused because he wanted to get 96 runecrafting. Jimmy then proceded to call Rob scum, because he noticed that he already has 99 runecrafting. Rob goes to the gym and better's his health by exercising. Jimmy begins to develop plaque in his arteries.

 

Next semester rolls around, Rob get's an intership for a big company. He is going to help them develop software. Jimmy drop out of college. He failed most of his finals. He lost his scholarships.

 

5 years later, Rob works for a fortune 500 company developing software. Jimmy works at a Grocery Store.

Jimmy and Rob both have very close skill totals on runescape. Jimmy is legit. Rob is scum.

 

This may or may not be based on a true story.

Yea well this is why people get irritated when people bot skills....They show the same on the highscores but havent done it all themselves

 

Thier is some content that gives a big ingame advantage like frost dragons and livid farm that i understand why it gets botted because its repetetive content thats sorta necessary for the game...BUt if someone bots a 99 or multiple 99s it really isnt fair at all and they shuld get the rollback /bans and frost dragon bots shoudl get a ban too ...but people decide if the time saved in rs is worth riskin thier account or think "o jagex didnt roll or ban all these people so it wont happen to me..."

 

yea i understand thiers choice of nolifing rs versus being a noob account but enjoying real life too but the reason many loyal players quit especcially those that play completely legit is because of people that dont even care about the game polluting it with cheating and all..

 

but tbh the game isnt worth starting if you didnt start 2-3 years ago....if you wanna monsterhunt might as well play wow or something....Thats probably why someone feels the need to nolife and when they realize they cant they start botting

 

Personally I never tried or considered botting...kinda dont mind grinding....but i understand when ur calculatin how long somthing will take it can bring a "damn 1 month at 4hrs a day 2 weeks at 8hrs a day >.> feeling"

[Silvertaler]

What's the problem with botting now, you ask? Well I think it's... actually pretty shocking! Usually you see a bot and you can easily tell it's a bot: Stupid random string of letters and numbers for a name, Dragon med/skirt with whip and Granite plate, mindlessly running around, usually level 85ish... but wait, that guy has full bandos, a 99 str cape, and a chaotic rapier. He's obviously a main, and he's not afraid of botting? Couldn't he be risking all the work he (probably didn't) put into that account? Have the bots really become that good? That people aren't afraid of risking such a high level account with what I assume is many hours of investment? Is there just no suitable punishment for them? I've read about people only getting 10-day bans for macroing when I remember that you'd get your stats wiped for it and around the advent of RS2 just a full on permanent ban.

 

How many people on the hiscores can we even trust anymore? People seem just peachy to bot with their mains even now. I've seen tons of Runecrafting capes around, on lower level players (sub 110 combat). Too many, even. Stereotypically I'd only ever see that cape on level 126s and eventually 138s. Sure you could blame it on easier leveling like ZMI but that's not where all these "good" 99s are being achieved with hard work or dedication. Sure, I've reported maybe a dozen main/pure accounts at the Blue Dragons today (mostly out of asspain that it took so long to do 128 Blue dragon task), but I have little faith in Jagex actually doing anything about them. Out of probably hundreds of reports across my years of playing RS, I've only gotten one message in my inbox saying that Jagex took action against a player I reported. And I always made sure of making good reports too, nothing over stupid crap.

 

Feels like I'm losing faith in the game, to be honest. I don't trust anyone I see with their accomplishments unless I can tell they haven't botted. How many botters are among us anyway? Like I said, people seem just fine with botting on their main accounts....

 

Dedication perhaps, but certainly not hard work. People bot to kill the grind and it's just ludicrous how grindy RS really is.

^This. I wouldn't put the blame on the bots as much as most people do. The more braindead grinding there is in any game, the more botting it will cause. It's Jagex's choice to take so much risks. They're only harvesting something they planted themselves.

 

I also fully agree with n64jive. I have botted in another MMO and I have no shame of it, it's a personal choice : bot and face the risks of getting banned, or don't bot at the cost of losing several hours of your lifetime. Never botted on Runescape because I didn't play for levels. Botting doesn't make people scum. It doesn't mean anything about a person's personality. I'd rather have botters than the "omfg n00b l0l0l0" type of players.

 

And for those who complain so much about botters : I find it funny how skipping the hard work of quests with cheat guides seems fine to you, but skipping the massive grind of skills with bots already isn't. The only difference? Botting requires a 3rd party program. Both are cheats. In both ways you are not playing the game the way it's ment. And therefore, if you think one makes you "scum", the other makes you "scum" too. I say this because I'm pretty sure almost all you guys ranting about botters cheat the quests or whatever other part of the game requires some effort. So maybe before you go out calling botters "sad cheaters", "scum", "immature idiots" and what not, take a look at the mirror yourselves. This is not to call everybody who uses guides an idiot, I wouldn't care less. This is to point out the massive irony I'm seeing here.

[Viv]

What's the problem with botting now, you ask? Well I think it's... actually pretty shocking! Usually you see a bot and you can easily tell it's a bot: Stupid random string of letters and numbers for a name, Dragon med/skirt with whip and Granite plate, mindlessly running around, usually level 85ish... but wait, that guy has full bandos, a 99 str cape, and a chaotic rapier. He's obviously a main, and he's not afraid of botting? Couldn't he be risking all the work he (probably didn't) put into that account? Have the bots really become that good? That people aren't afraid of risking such a high level account with what I assume is many hours of investment? Is there just no suitable punishment for them? I've read about people only getting 10-day bans for macroing when I remember that you'd get your stats wiped for it and around the advent of RS2 just a full on permanent ban.

 

How many people on the hiscores can we even trust anymore? People seem just peachy to bot with their mains even now. I've seen tons of Runecrafting capes around, on lower level players (sub 110 combat). Too many, even. Stereotypically I'd only ever see that cape on level 126s and eventually 138s. Sure you could blame it on easier leveling like ZMI but that's not where all these "good" 99s are being achieved with hard work or dedication. Sure, I've reported maybe a dozen main/pure accounts at the Blue Dragons today (mostly out of asspain that it took so long to do 128 Blue dragon task), but I have little faith in Jagex actually doing anything about them. Out of probably hundreds of reports across my years of playing RS, I've only gotten one message in my inbox saying that Jagex took action against a player I reported. And I always made sure of making good reports too, nothing over stupid crap.

 

Feels like I'm losing faith in the game, to be honest. I don't trust anyone I see with their accomplishments unless I can tell they haven't botted. How many botters are among us anyway? Like I said, people seem just fine with botting on their main accounts....

 

Dedication perhaps, but certainly not hard work. People bot to kill the grind and it's just ludicrous how grindy RS really is.

^This. I wouldn't put the blame on the bots as much as most people do. The more braindead grinding there is in any game, the more botting it will cause. It's Jagex's choice to take so much risks. They're only harvesting something they planted themselves.

livid farm >.> look at my stats ive done alot of grinding but that just drove me crazy why why why do that for the completionist cape <.< probably the stupidest content ever lol...

[Stev]

Don't grind! :shock: If you hate the game so much that you have to bot it? Doesn't that mean you actually care more about the GAME? They spent money on a bot to play a GAME for them, I'm confused.

Bots cost money? Sure some do... But there are readily available free bots.

 

A "close relative" of mine (And no, not my brother Eidos) recently started a new account for the sole purpose of seeing how far he could get an account with using the most obvious bot. And I mean no random click coordinates, no random sleep values, no random color clicks, no human-like mouse-movements, etc. He's almost 99 Fishing, Woodcutting, Firemaking, and Mining. The sole purpose of this thing was to see how far you could get away with and he's nearing four 99s in a very short time using a tool that had a sole purpose of trying to get caught! But you know what... He's spending more time with his two sons and his girlfriend rather then getting fat in-front of a computer screen. ;).

 

However, the problem here is not the odd person running a bot for a few fishing levels of something. It's the companies running hundreds/thousands of them at one time for gold farming.

 

Inb4deleted.

[Silvertaler]

What's the problem with botting now, you ask? Well I think it's... actually pretty shocking! Usually you see a bot and you can easily tell it's a bot: Stupid random string of letters and numbers for a name, Dragon med/skirt with whip and Granite plate, mindlessly running around, usually level 85ish... but wait, that guy has full bandos, a 99 str cape, and a chaotic rapier. He's obviously a main, and he's not afraid of botting? Couldn't he be risking all the work he (probably didn't) put into that account? Have the bots really become that good? That people aren't afraid of risking such a high level account with what I assume is many hours of investment? Is there just no suitable punishment for them? I've read about people only getting 10-day bans for macroing when I remember that you'd get your stats wiped for it and around the advent of RS2 just a full on permanent ban.

 

How many people on the hiscores can we even trust anymore? People seem just peachy to bot with their mains even now. I've seen tons of Runecrafting capes around, on lower level players (sub 110 combat). Too many, even. Stereotypically I'd only ever see that cape on level 126s and eventually 138s. Sure you could blame it on easier leveling like ZMI but that's not where all these "good" 99s are being achieved with hard work or dedication. Sure, I've reported maybe a dozen main/pure accounts at the Blue Dragons today (mostly out of asspain that it took so long to do 128 Blue dragon task), but I have little faith in Jagex actually doing anything about them. Out of probably hundreds of reports across my years of playing RS, I've only gotten one message in my inbox saying that Jagex took action against a player I reported. And I always made sure of making good reports too, nothing over stupid crap.

 

Feels like I'm losing faith in the game, to be honest. I don't trust anyone I see with their accomplishments unless I can tell they haven't botted. How many botters are among us anyway? Like I said, people seem just fine with botting on their main accounts....

 

Dedication perhaps, but certainly not hard work. People bot to kill the grind and it's just ludicrous how grindy RS really is.

^This. I wouldn't put the blame on the bots as much as most people do. The more braindead grinding there is in any game, the more botting it will cause. It's Jagex's choice to take so much risks. They're only harvesting something they planted themselves.

livid farm >.> look at my stats ive done alot of grinding but that just drove me crazy why why why do that for the completionist cape <.< probably the stupidest content ever lol...

Why do you think? Because the whole community decided to believe that skills are the main purpose of this game. If you don't have high skills, you're a "n00b". And Jagex abuses of that mentality to encourage you even more. They don't care about ruining your life, they care about the money. You and many others just go with the flow, surely you did skills you don't even like, didnt you? :/

[Stev]

but the more interesting argument is to actually debate whether jagex cares more about profit (paying members) or the integrity of its content.....

A popular botting forum/site has 43921 Registered members...

 

Not all of them are members I'm sure but still does bring out an interesting beginning calculation.

 

Fictitiously, if half of them were members, paying.... 5 USD.... that comes out to $108,805.50 a month. While there is prob less than that, it is no small amount. And that is 1, one, uno, botting site.

Not only that. Not all bot sites/forums require membership to download their bot/macros. Hell, if I could simply click a button and download it rather then register, I ain't gonna register.

 

I used to run and administrate a hack site for popular FPS games like Battlefield and such. Many would know the name WR-Source (DW, it's been taken down and passed to a new owner under a different domain... Don't panic). Because we didn't require people to be logged in/registered to download the hacks, the traffic was incredible. Those that play WarRock, for example, will know what we did to that game. It's not a matter of who's the better player, instead who had the better hack. Ofc, we did have VIP (Better) which required memberships... Obviously.

[The_Fray]

 

For those making RWT sites:

In the end, they're making $$ illegally, and for that, I think it's wrong. Sure, they're smart, efficient, w/e, I still think it's wrong.

 

It isn't illegal, it is just against the rules of a GAME. There is no law applied to it (unless you don't pay taxes on income... :shame: Tisk Tisk) . I guess you could say "ohh you are selling copyrighted material" or "RSGP gets people addicted to a game so its a drug" or some other bull. To those making a living or making extra spending money off of a video game then more power to you, to those of you that are hating on people making money off being smart... get over it. Jagex doesn't care anymore (if they ever did). If you don't like it, don't do it, but don't put other people down because they do something. Like someone said earlier about smoking. If you don't like smoking then don't do it, but if you do, then do.

 

peace,

Vann

Why shouldnt people hate on the ones making money off this game by this botting spree. I am sorry but I still wish to play this game and these bots are essentially ruining it for me. If there are indeed making money, then good for them but we reserve the right to hate on the people who are driving this game into the ground.

 

I votes "yes" on bringing the free trade and wilderness back but I did not expect things to get so out of hand. I hope that Jagex realizes what a blunder this was and reverts the game back to the more restricted version. And I ask the people who voted "yes", is this really worth it. Botting is so out of control, it will spell the end of this game.

[Stev]

He was referring to the people who have made billions on this game over the years and so are selling to RWT sites. Or, even, those who are doing good staking and selling their wins to the RWT sites.

 

I hardly doubt someone who lets his account bot yew trees or somethingw hile he sleeps is selling his RS-GPs to these gold sites because they are making [bleep]-all from botting. Lol.

 

I can't get mad at these people. They're being very smart. They are getting forward in life by using their time on an online game to their advantage. It's the companies that you should hate on. They are the ones running bots all over the place for money.

[Ginger_Warrior]

See, this is what I don't understand--this idea that botting ruins your experience of the game. Surely if you enjoyed the simple act of grinding up your skills it wouldn't matter whether a bot or a human was standing five tiles away. The evidence out there suggests people aren't suddenly dropping their virtual tools because they see a bot next to them, quite the opposite in fact, so how ruinous is botting to people's experiences really?

[Stev]

so how ruinous is botting to people's experiences really?

PEOPLE ARE GETTING MOAR XPs THEN ME! I GET MAD AND JEALOUS AT PEOPLE GETTING AHEAD OF ME AND RUINING THE SATISFACTION OF MY OOBER FLETCH CAPE!

 

Yup. Dat caps lock.

[obfuscator]

so how ruinous is botting to people's experiences really?

PEOPLE ARE GETTING MOAR XPs THEN ME! I GET MAD AND JEALOUS AT PEOPLE GETTING AHEAD OF ME AND RUINING THE SATISFACTION OF MY OOBER FLETCH CAPE!

 

Yup. Dat caps lock.

Yeah, I agree. I think it's more about people feeling cheated that they've done things "the right way" then there actually being serious detriment caused by botting.

[Ginger_Warrior]

WELL I GET DAT (removes crumbs from shift key) is the real reason people feel so agrieved. They spend all that time performing the same action thousands of times over and at the end discover someone else did it while spending only a couple of hours at their keyboard to make sure the bot was fine, and for them that lowers the sense of achievement and makes it almost seem pointless. It's contradictory however to suggest botting will be the death of RuneScape or that it even harms the game when, despite botting blighting the game for the past decade, it's continued to grow and people have continued to grind skills.

 

Simply put: The same reason players have this obsessive need to hunt achievement capes, is the same reason bots find this game so inhabitable. Either lose the skillcapes and the ridiculously highly priced items, thus removing the need to farm XP and GP, or accept botting as a consequence.

[Crossed_Body]

I am sorry but I still wish to play this game and these bots are essentially ruining it for me.

Really? How come?

Inb4 preconceptions and no tangible argument.

[timmmmm83]

I am sorry but I still wish to play this game and these bots are essentially ruining it for me.

Really? How come?

Inb4 preconceptions and no tangible argument.

Pretty obvious:

Bots lower resource prices, people that gather resources suffer from this.

If he is a person that likes to fish/woodcut/mine/... bots ruin it for him, he earns a tiny fraction of what he would earn without bots.

 

This when there are easy ways of freeing RS from bots.

[Ginger_Warrior]

This when there are easy ways of freeing RS from bots.

Such as...?

[Youmu]

Not gonna lie, to me botting does NOT affect my gameplay styles in any way. I simply view them as resource leechers, they don't really do anything to affect my own skilling gains (aside from mining, but I out-mine most people anyway).

 

Of course, botting is morally wrong. But does that mean people won't do it? No!

 

In fact, this will just have players find more ways to bot. With Jagex and not banning the bots until the last minute, this just inclines more people to bot.

 

Botting is definitely a problem in Runescape, but it does not affect me much.