Don't suppose anyone has the equation for xp decline (as a function) from the previous weekends? I'd love to run the exact numbers, and I might see if I can get the equation anyway if no one has it.

Don't suppose anyone has the equation for xp decline (as a function) from the previous weekends? I'd love to run the exact numbers, and I might see if I can get the equation anyway if no one has it.

I don't have the equation, but here are all of the data points you would need to create one: http://services.rune...onus-xp-weekend

 

EDIT: Not sure if this is what you're looking for: http://forums.zybez.net/topic/1551209-quick-bxpw-formula/

Don't suppose anyone has the equation for xp decline (as a function) from the previous weekends? I'd love to run the exact numbers, and I might see if I can get the equation anyway if no one has it.

 

I want to say, from the second BXPW, they posted on the front page the multiplier's depreciation rates. I'm interested to see the real numbers as well!

Jagex should not be crucified because they decided to change their opinion on something. Hell, you should be crucifying your local and national Governments as they tend to make more drastic changes which effect you.

 

When it comes to prolonged gameplay, as long as it is very seldomly done, I do not see the harm. Playing video games for 48 hours is not really that bad as you will MOST LIKELY end up sleeping for 12-16 hours following the event. Yes people have died for extreme gameplay (3+ days no breaks, sleep, or food), but it is not Jagex's job to play big brother. (Insert something controversial about Natural Selection here)

 

I for one will taking part in a social event among three other friends in one of their basements. We are doing a LAN party complete with pizza, Arnold Palmers, and some hardcore gaming. As all 4 of us are about to become SMP cadets in the Army, we decided it was time for one last gig.

Awesome. Saves me some time. I am realizing that I have not constructed an equation from data for a while. Now I need to take a look at it and decide what sort of function to model it with. So many choices, though a polynomial would probably be the easiest to adapt since I work with them so much, and also because that's probably what they used. But a polynomial over a polynomial might work better (forget what they are called, I just remember the 3 forms of them).

 

Now I have something to do this afternoon, and something to play around with in minitab :D

Awesome. Saves me some time. I am realizing that I have not constructed an equation from data for a while. Now I need to take a look at it and decide what sort of function to model it with. So many choices, though a polynomial would probably be the easiest to adapt since I work with them so much, and also because that's probably what they used. But a polynomial over a polynomial might work better (forget what they are called, I just remember the 3 forms of them).

 

Now I have something to do this afternoon, and something to play around with in minitab :D

Just remember that

Your modifier will decrease every 30 minutes of in-game time

so it's not a smooth curve but more like steps.

My assumption would be that they have a continuous function and pull from it in intervals. The beauty of it is that the area under that curve would be almost identical to its stepped version (since the high on one side of each point is roughly countered by the low on the other). Looking at a scatterplot of the data, that might not be the case, and it might be 3 piecewise functions. Or it could be a 5th (or higher) power polynomial, though in that case I might model it as a piecewise. Or if I can get minitab to spit out the equation of the regression line, it has a cubit with a 99.7% match which would be close enough.

 

I might also be able to come it another way (with statistics instead of 'math' and get what I need that way.

 

EDIT: Wait a second, I see how this works now. That's just uncanny that the line fits that well. It would probably help if I actually knew what a regression line was :lol:

 

EDIT2: Still toying around, but here would be a good estimate using cubic form:

y = 2.881 - 0.1802x + 0.005924x^2 - 0.000065x^3

where y = xp multiplier and x = minutes since start.

And looking at those numbers, the cubic part isn't even all that importan. It is a very small number and if you just use the quadratic form your pretty close. No point finding the other 2 powers, at least not right now.

Using numbers just off the top of my head (someone please corerct me if I'm wrong) and assuming you played for the entirety of the BXPW;

 

Past BXPWs

First 10 hours averaged to 1.7x = 7 'free' hours

The next 62 hours were 1.1x = 6.2 'free' hours

Maximum = 13.2 'free' hours

 

Hallowe'en BXPW

All 48 hours are 2x = 48 'free' hours

 

I prefer the old method. :P

Would be intense for the first 5-7 hours then relax for the rest. Going to be an all out exp-fest for this one.

Using numbers just off the top of my head (someone please corerct me if I'm wrong) and assuming you played for the entirety of the BXPW;

 

Past BXPWs

First 10 hours averaged to 1.7x = 7 'free' hours

The next 62 hours were 1.1x = 6.2 'free' hours

Maximum = 13.2 'free' hours

 

Hallowe'en BXPW

All 48 hours are 2x = 48 'free' hours

 

I prefer the old method. :P

Would be intense for the first 5-7 hours then relax for the rest. Going to be an all out exp-fest for this one.

 

Which means an awesome merching opportunity!

Yeah, it kind of just occured to me that since I have all the data points, I could just take the average (1.695), rather than integrate (which is also more accurate since I don't have a perfect line of fit for the data). Never underestimate my ability to make simple problems complicated :lol:

A part of me thinks that they're doing this so that people don't have a reason to skill after the bot nuke. "Oh, resources are skyrcketing because there are no bots to collect them? Good thing I already got all my goal levels in the 48 hour grindfest the other day"

If you are complaining because you HAVE to play 48 hours instead of 13 hours on previous weekends, you have a serious problem.

 

If you are complaining because you say Jagex wants people to play 48 hours, you are lying to yourself just to make it look like Jagex is in the wrong again. And don't bring up "Jagex is hypocritical" bullshit. it's not like they are selling bxp weekends.

 

Stop lying to yourselves, the only reasons you are mad is:

1) You didn't get to save up your raw materials for the last 6 months

2) You got the 99s between last xp weekend and this one

3) You are maxed/comp cape and don't want anyone else to get it

4) You won't be here that weekend

 

Jagex did something right for once, and still you idiots complain. And just in case some retard says I'm going to be on 48 hours, I won't be on that weekend. Maybe you too need to calm down instead of complaining about hypocrisy of a videogame developer or whatever you disguise your rage as.

I'm complaining because everything will be more crowded and there will be fewer people willing to hop at slayer tasks. I hate people who don't hop. They make me want to stab them.

I'm complaining because everything will be more crowded and there will be fewer people willing to hop at slayer tasks. I hate people who don't hop. They make me want to stab them.

Were you going to train slayer normally that weekend if it wasn't announced? If not, I don't care. Just pretend slayer didn't get a 2x boost.

 

And if you were the xp bonus will help outweigh the slowdown. Again, no big deal. It's one weekend.

Self control would be the key term to use in this thread. I don't understand why certain individuals are getting angry at Jagex for doing this.

 

Nobody is forcing anyone to play for 48 straight hours. If anything, it promotes less intensive playing than the old formula. In previous bexp weekends I felt like I had to play 10 hours to get the multiplier down to x1.1.

 

If this one is double exp for an entire two days it means people will reach their goals faster, hence having to play less.

I'm complaining because everything will be more crowded and there will be fewer people willing to hop at slayer tasks. I hate people who don't hop. They make me want to stab them.

Were you going to train slayer normally that weekend if it wasn't announced? If not, I don't care. Just pretend slayer didn't get a 2x boost.

 

And if you were the xp bonus will help outweigh the slowdown. Again, no big deal. It's one weekend.

I was planning on slaying. The skill is stressful enough. I'd take a 50% cut to xp rate if it removed all the other players.

As a point of interest on the playing for 48 hours strait, unless your super man or being prescribed a Eugeroic for narcolepsy or another major sleep disorder, then your chances of being able to productively play RuneScape for a full 48 hours are pretty much non existant. You can stay awake that long with the help of stimulants yes, but you'll be in pretty out of it (which here translates to sucking at a point and click game) unless your stimulant of choice is crack (and if it is, then your probably not reading this).

As a point of interest on the playing for 48 hours strait, unless your super man or being prescribed a Eugeroic for narcolepsy or another major sleep disorder, then your chances of being able to productively play RuneScape for a full 48 hours are pretty much non existant. You can stay awake that long with the help of stimulants yes, but you'll be in pretty out of it (which here translates to sucking at a point and click game) unless your stimulant of choice is crack (and if it is, then your probably not reading this).

 

True, which is why it is nice to have an atypical polyphasic sleep pattern. Instead of missing out on 16 hours of potential experience (if I sleep 8 hours per normal schedule) I would only miss out on 10-12. That is if I actually plan on maximizing my weekend which will not happen. I will only maybe put 5-8 hours in over the weekend.

As a point of interest on the playing for 48 hours strait, unless your super man or being prescribed a Eugeroic for narcolepsy or another major sleep disorder, then your chances of being able to productively play RuneScape for a full 48 hours are pretty much non existant. You can stay awake that long with the help of stimulants yes, but you'll be in pretty out of it (which here translates to sucking at a point and click game) unless your stimulant of choice is crack (and if it is, then your probably not reading this).

 

Perhaps not 48 hours, but I've been awake for 2 days with only 1 hour sleep and felt absolutely fine both days. I don't do drugs because mommy says drugs are bad and I'm a good boy, and stimulants mommy said are only for adults.

 

Granted, the first night was my high school Grad Night, so I wasn't staring in front of a computer screen but rather out and about doing all kinds of activities we shall keep off the record.

 

However, that's not to say that playing video games WON'T be a substitute.

 

Not taking sides here, just thought I'd let you know that in special cases you can go 48 hours in minimal sleep and feel absolutely fine.

 

Btw right after those 2 days I jumped straight into a normal sleep schedule without any additional feelings of fatigue. Shit was weird, I agree.

True, which is why it is nice to have an atypical polyphasic sleep pattern. Instead of missing out on 16 hours of potential experience (if I sleep 8 hours per normal schedule) I would only miss out on 10-12. That is if I actually plan on maximizing my weekend which will not happen. I will only maybe put 5-8 hours in over the weekend.

 

That sleep pattern takes time to condition yourself to and the timing for your naps must be very precise. Long story short, even if you started it right now you would likely still feel sluggish and crappy come 2x Xp weekend.

 

Most rs players wouldn't have the discipline to pull something like that off consistently anyway.

The amount of meta in this topic suddenly shot through the roof.

 

As a completionist, really, my feeling is that XP is merely a means to an end and not the end in itself, so while everyone runs off to go get their 2x construction/slayer XP or whatnot, I'll probably try my luck getting the KBD journal or something that won't be as crowded.

The amount of meta in this topic suddenly shot through the roof.

 

As a completionist, really, my feeling is that XP is merely a means to an end and not the end in itself, so while everyone runs off to go get their 2x construction/slayer XP or whatnot, I'll probably try my luck getting the KBD journal or something that won't be as crowded.

I'd join you, but I still got like 14.5m xp from Completionist.

As a point of interest on the playing for 48 hours strait, unless your super man or being prescribed a Eugeroic for narcolepsy or another major sleep disorder, then your chances of being able to productively play RuneScape for a full 48 hours are pretty much non existant. You can stay awake that long with the help of stimulants yes, but you'll be in pretty out of it (which here translates to sucking at a point and click game) unless your stimulant of choice is crack (and if it is, then your probably not reading this).

 

Really is inaccurate. Even for all night parties its not uncommon to stay awake for 36 hours. Which is quite physically active too. However for maybe more important things, im sure not all professions during emergencies just go to bed because 24 hours have past.

 

As someone who doesnt need to sleep too much its almost a requirement that I dont sleep some times just to correct my clock again. Otherwise I get too groggy from sleeping too much and/or I only end up getting very little sleep anyway as I dont need it. That being around 36 hours minimum but probably closer to 40 hours, still being one night of skipping sleep, returning to a move regular pattern for the majority of the time.

 

You also drink plenty of water over other types of substances to remain quit fresh feeling. For 48 hours you just got to be sure you drink plenty of water.

 

On a personal note. My brain is more sharp after 20>10>5 hours. After 40 hours it begins to become a somewhat positive intoxication - Without a hangover. For gaming purposes it isnt that hard to remain in control but for studying it can be a bit difficult around this time, especially when your in uni studying maths and learning new sums or something. Its not hard to go to work or study the next day after skipping a night - Pretty sure alot of people have done that. Sitting behind a pc just makes it all the easier.

 

There is the other option of just having 2 hours sleep which is amazingly refreshing for functioning for another day. Generally I wouldnt need to worry about drinking more water than usual if I have slept 2 hours minimum. Just aslongs you return to a regular sleeping pattern soon after.

 

I will admit for the average person that 48 hours would be pushing it. Its easier to do something between 30-40 hours if someone has never even skipped a night. However a couple of hours sleep is very refreshing to be able to do that extra bit of time. For someone like me, which isnt that uncommon for whatever purpose, be it a job, gaming, late night parties.. 48 is just an extra 8 hours ontop of 40 hours - Something I feel comfortable doing without feeling too tired to the point of discomfort.

 

Dont drink freaking fizzy drinks or wtf lol. It burns you out and makes you feel horrible. Water is the key to feeling fresh and alert.

As a point of interest on the playing for 48 hours strait, unless your super man or being prescribed a Eugeroic for narcolepsy or another major sleep disorder, then your chances of being able to productively play RuneScape for a full 48 hours are pretty much non existant. You can stay awake that long with the help of stimulants yes, but you'll be in pretty out of it (which here translates to sucking at a point and click game) unless your stimulant of choice is crack (and if it is, then your probably not reading this).

 

Really is inaccurate. Even for all night parties its not uncommon to stay awake for 36 hours. Which is quite physically active too. However for maybe more important things, im sure not all professions during emergencies just go to bed because 24 hours have past.

 

Oh, you think?

 

The Working Time Regulations 1998 apply to nurses and health care assistants in the independent and public sector. The RCN has raised concerns around issues such as on-call and compensatory rest and the impact that fatigue, long working hours and lack of rest can have on both patient safety and that of the nurse or health care assistant. The RCN is involved in discussions at a UK and European level to review the directive.

Restrictions on night work

 

As a night worker, you should not work more than an average of eight hours in each 24-hour period. This includes regular overtime, but not occasional overtime. You cannot opt out of this night working limit.

 

If your night work involves special hazards or heavy physical or mental strain, you can't be made to work more than eight hours in any 24-hour period.

 

This is an absolute limit rather than an average limit and includes daytime overtime. With absolute limits you cannot work over eight hours in any 24-hour period. Average limits allow you to average the hours you work over a set period. For example, one night you work nine hours, the next night you work seven, averaging out at eight hours.

There are some exceptions about emergency services but this is generally agreed between employer and employee, averaged out over the next few days, only applied in extreme circumstances (London Bombings, 7th July 2005, for example) and in case of dispute, the employee's rights are favoured.

 

So no, common sense rules on needing sleep, and the negative correlation between fatigue and performance, still apply.

I think 48 hrs mighhttt be pushing it... going without sleep for one night you get pretty bloody spastic, let alone 2....