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11-Dec-2012 - Player-Owned Ports

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It is, and it should devalue it, even by a little bit.

 

And who is to say it will be easy to get? Superior ports is very easy to get, but the time investment is HUGE.


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I'm saying that it would only devalue virtus because people are illogical. It'd be useless in the metagame, and I'm not sure how I feel about that. I don't think good weaponry should be that easy to obtain, but I'd like the new content to have a purpose.

Virtus weaponry has an illogical value anyway. It's horrifically over priced.

I agree that a level 80 weapon shouldn't be worth as much as a level 90 weapon, but it isn't due to illogical behavior within the economy.

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Can you explain how t80 virtus wand + book would be better than a t85 staff? Is it concentrated blast, or the ability to shield?


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How exactly would T85 staff be outclassed by Virtus? Is concentrated blast that Overpowered that is capable of overcoming both damage AND accuracy difference between them?

 

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Maybe I missed it somewhere but can someone confirm/link to where we know that ports mage weapons are going to be a staff and not dw? 



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No confirmation I am aware off, I am not even sure if T85 magic weapon would make an appearance. But if it did, I hold my expectation at staff, since its the worse of the two


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Can you explain how t80 virtus wand + book would be better than a t85 staff? Is it concentrated blast, or the ability to shield?

Yep, concentrated blast

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Or otherwise balance the abilities.

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I'm fairly sure that concentrated blast is only worth like 3 tiers of damage, let alone accuracy. 

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I really hope it is T85 2h weapons.

I'm torn

 

On one hand, I'd like to have a useful level 85 weapon.

 

On the other hand, I don't want useful equipment to be so easily obtainable.

 

Chaotics are very useful, and they do take a fair amount of time to get. Yes, once you are 95+ you can get a chaotic an hour, or even less, but going from 1 to 80 for your initial 2m xp is HORRIBLY painful.

 

I was getting at that a level 85 staff would be completely useless because a virtus wand and book would outclass it basically everywhere. The price of virtus would even go down because of illogical people (and you know we have a lot of those) would use the staff, which would make virtus even easier to get.

 

I've been very out of the loop with magic ever since I got my asc bows. Why is dualwield magic so good?

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It's not, as far as I know, but only five tiers difference, that's borderline worth using dw instead of 2h, with 2h the higher-tiered.

 

Concentrated Blast is a 5s cooldown ability with 200% weapon damage over 4 ticks, or 300% over 6 ticks (I think). That's equivalent to 150% damage, better than Wrack, Sonic Blast, Impact (on stunnable targets) and Chain (if there is one target only). Dragon Breath, Asphyxiate, Wild Magic and Sunshine are all better, not sure about Combust, it's probably around the same.

 

If you assume that a t85 weapon is some 1900 damage (average of t80 and t90), it's a 6% boost over a t80 weapon.

 

Since Concentrated Blast is such a big boost, dw beats 2h at nearby tiers, but I don't know how the lower adrenaline gain (8% per 4 or 6 ticks) works out when using Sunshine/Metamorphosis and such.


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That, what Quyneax said, and T80 dual weild magic is superior to T90 dual wield melee and range in a few situations.


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^ Which is an indication that they don't need higher tiered magic weapons as much as they need to make Range and Melee abilities more powerful, especially ranged.


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It's valued 1m higher

 

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^ Which is an indication that they don't need higher tiered magic weapons as much as they need to make Range and Melee abilities more powerful, especially ranged.

it has nothing to do with abilities (well for range it does, but that's a different thing since jagex flat out ignored that there was a problem...) but with the fact that mage has easy multitarget capability


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SS top sold for 5.7 for me today as well at Tetsu top at 6.75



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I'm quite disappointed with the expansion. Nothing new to it really.

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I think this thread can finally rest, as we will now use the other thread =D

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Does anyone know what it means if I got the Occultist and Whaler in the port, but don't have access to their triple voyage? (I have already done the first of the 3 triples for them)

 

I also have the unlock missions for 2 of the new adventurers; could those be crowding the triple voyage out? I just don't really want to unlock them to stop them from crowding out the adventurers I need to finish my triples. :|

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On re-roll, I got the tripple missionary/convict/boatinst AND the chef mission, so you can indeed have four of them in your port at once


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Well triples only need 2/3 to show up. And actually I believe that the "meet the x" missions don't count towards the limit of 2 adventurers per day. We'll need to see more information about this..


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I think this thread can finally rest, as we will now use the other thread =D

 

Agreed. This had a good long run and now it's time for it to retire. Please use this thread to continue the PoP discussion.

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