Future Update Discussions

[Sy_Accursed]

New attack(s) for Vorago again?

 

That'll help fix the issue of Seismics being ridiculously overly priced due to rarity! I mean what could possibly go wrong with making the boss harder when the drops are already too rare partially because of its difficulty! 

 

-.-

[brunokiller]

seismics got mod_timbo'd on release.

[Sy_Accursed]

In order to properly keep their new system balanced they really need to make new gear come in a more pop or barrows (original) style.

As in the item for any given slot has identical source for all 3 classes. 1 Boss should drop mainhands, 1 offhands, 1 shields, 1 helms etc. Doesn't even necessarily have to be that confined, but the bosses/things supplying them should at least be purposefully designed to be equals; given drops intended to be equals (eg drygore, seismic and ascension) to purposefully designed unequal sources was bound to cause problems. Especially when you throw in to the mix ranged (despite sort of being the easiest in raw combat terms) has a very literal monetary or time blockade against even chasing the drop and has a fundamental inequality built in when it requires 7 different components to be built that come from 7 different monsters (8+ if you count killing for the keys in first place) whilst the melee and magic can just be walked straight in to and gotten as a straight up drop.

 

Sure that way a specific item subset would still be overpriced when given to Vorago but at least it'd be a bit more balanced as all 3 classes would suffer the same issue.

[Wkw]

In order to properly keep their new system balanced they really need to make new gear come in a more pop or barrows (original) style.

As in the item for any given slot has identical source for all 3 classes. 1 Boss should drop mainhands, 1 offhands, 1 shields, 1 helms etc. Doesn't even necessarily have to be that confined, but the bosses/things supplying them should at least be purposefully designed to be equals; given drops intended to be equals (eg drygore, seismic and ascension) to purposefully designed unequal sources was bound to cause problems. Especially when you throw in to the mix ranged (despite sort of being the easiest in raw combat terms) has a very literal monetary or time blockade against even chasing the drop and has a fundamental inequality built in when it requires 7 different components to be built that come from 7 different monsters (8+ if you count killing for the keys in first place) whilst the melee and magic can just be walked straight in to and gotten as a straight up drop.

 

Sure that way a specific item subset would still be overpriced when given to Vorago but at least it'd be a bit more balanced as all 3 classes would suffer the same issue.

Yep.. that is what I said half a dozen times on the forum..

 

ROT6 should drop ALL the energy for T90 power armor.

Vorago should drop mainhands, because he is the hardest and mainhands are the best... for everything.

KK should drop off hands. Quite a challange, but off hands are still pretty necessary

Ascensions should drop shields, because shields are not the best thing ever, and ascensions are quite a solo thing to do

For T90 power gloves and boots, like glacors and automatons, each monster should drop all three of the type.

[Alg]

I fail to see what you hope to accomplish by making all mainhands suffer from Vorago Syndrome. Even if that wasn't the case... Isn't he balanced for T90 accuracy? How is it a good idea to make him drop the only weapons that can reasonably hit through his defense?

[Wkw]

I fail to see what you hope to accomplish by making all mainhands suffer from Vorago Syndrome.

1. Because of the amount of drygores and ascensions, they will only go up

2. However only a little bit, because

3. More people will be forced to vorago, as it is the main supply of t90 weapons and

4. the price of t90 mhs are equalized

 

My other idea would be to have KK to mainhands, and vorago shields, PLUS everything else at a much rarer drop rate?

[Tansuo]

Ascensions should drop shields, because shields are not the best thing ever, and ascensions are quite a solo thing to do

 

 

That would render the Ascension dg pretty obsolete...

[Lord Zophar]

Yes, lets make the HARDEST [bleep]ING BOSS IN THE GODDAMN GAME EVEN MORE BLOODY DIFFICULT, while still not acknowledging that the Wand drops need their rarity adjusted.

 

God, they are retarded. "Oh, look-- more teams are learning Vorago, let's go and [bleep] them just because we don't have any other things that need to be done."

 

At least, from the way they made it sound, Range will sort of get its version of Meta if multiple people are now able to use DS. That change should actually impact the Seismic Wand price, or at least it would if they weren't needlessly buffing Vorago.

[Ambler]

Multiple people can use Sunlight/Death's swiftness currently, you need to stand on the corners of a monster to achieve it though.

 

XOOOOOX

OOMMMOO

OOMMMOO

OOMMMOO

XOOOOOX

 

Where X's are players, O's are empty squares, and M is the monster. Perfect for 6 man Vorago (Base tank/Bomb tank don't need it, 4 dpsers do), but also works on Kalphite King, though he obviously moves around the room a lot, so it's not as viable.

 

As for Vorago Syndrome:

 

Read a few guides, know the rotations.

Join a low gear-requirement mass, there are plenty of them out there.

Learn how to do it, get some splits for better gear/weapons/skills.

Join smaller teams, even bigger splits,

Eventually buy your own seismic wand, don't bother with orb because it's currently a waste of ~600m.

???

Profit.

 

Also, having more people doing Vorago will create a larger supply of Wands ingame, thus reducing the price over time.

 

Saying this for the <insert large number>th time, Vorago is really not that difficult. It's a surprisingly slow-paced boss fight compared to Barrows/Nex/KK, and you can easily master the basics within a few days of trying. It's called a boss for a reason, and much like most other Chris L bosses, has some timings built in allowing you to work out when the best time is to use abilities, and to stop attacking to avoid PKing you team-mates on reflects.

 

But yeah, I'm excited for this new rotation, but also slightly scared, because if it gets into Hardmode, it will be a while before I can get that title, as noone will want to do it.

 

 

Also, a random suggestion that would actually make ranged worth it:

Why can't you move when doing ranged abilities? It makes no sense that you are unable to move while firing a crossbow.

(Oh, and make snap shot 2x150% damage please.)

[Platinum_Myr]

 

Also, a random suggestion that would actually make ranged worth it:

Why can't you move when doing ranged abilities? It makes no sense that you are unable to move while firing a crossbow.

(Oh, and make snap shot 2x150% damage please.)

 

This is likely an engine issue.. But yes it really should be fixed. It's silly that an enemy can move and we still hit them (except for specialized aoe attacks) but we can't move while firing. Ofcourse.. that requires that movement and ability activation be "fluid" which currently isn't. Because of the turn-based combat and the grid-based movement, you have to be "in" a square to fire an ability. You can't launch abilities between ticks, so essentially you really wouldn't get much bonus. Though, longer abilities should let us move while continuing to fire..

[Yoko Kurama]

Seismic Wands and T90 Mage isn't worth more than Blue Phat yet, there's obviously a problem. Don't worry, guys, Chris L is on it!

[Saradomin_Mage]

 

Open World PVP, looks fun. Hope the caravans run frequently enough.

[Hedgehog]

The world event sounds pretty cool

 

I just hope it isn't a total popularity contest like the last one

[Miss Lioness]

And that it is more like a weekly input instead of a daily one or better an unlimited 6 week one. So you can get all rewards in 1 go.

[helring]

I'm still extremely annoyed about them killing another God off so soon after they finally got to Gielinor. The last God Wars last 1000 years but Jagex seems intent on rushing this one. Not to mention using temporary content with little player agency to do so. I know they say "the community decides" but each individual player's decision is pretty much worthless with so many involved. Overall, I like the first World Event, Zammy was weakened, Sara gained some power but no major changes.

[Lord Zophar]

I'm still extremely annoyed about them killing another God off so soon after they finally got to Gielinor. The last God Wars last 1000 years but Jagex seems intent on rushing this one. Not to mention using temporary content with little player agency to do so. I know they say "the community decides" but each individual player's decision is pretty much worthless with so many involved. Overall, I like the first World Event, Zammy was weakened, Sara gained some power but no major changes.

Shrug, who actually cares about Bandos, anyway? He's a big stupid chaotic evil ogre god.

[Miss Lioness]

 

I'm still extremely annoyed about them killing another God off so soon after they finally got to Gielinor. The last God Wars last 1000 years but Jagex seems intent on rushing this one. Not to mention using temporary content with little player agency to do so. I know they say "the community decides" but each individual player's decision is pretty much worthless with so many involved. Overall, I like the first World Event, Zammy was weakened, Sara gained some power but no major changes.

Shrug, who actually cares about Bandos, anyway? He's a big stupid chaotic evil ogre god.

 

 

And that is exactly the reason many people are against killing of the gods so soon.

There has been no quest about the Bandos we may now know. The old quests that features Zanik VS Bandos is pretty redundant with all these new lore plots. 

[HunterDexter]

Yeah, there were some talks about Bandos getting a new quest series where he tries to regather the goblins and probably tries to obliterate the Dorgeshuun tribe himself. But I won't see it happening if he indeed dies. I too hate the rush on this content, I want a nice story to unfold, not like "Oh look a god, BOOOM, DEAD". Also, in the trailer they talk about changes according to the playerbase. I think the biggest complain was the fact that OUR choice, like they advertise, is basicly worthless because the massive amounts of "dumb" people skewing the event to the "good" god. And, my personal complain: nothing is said about how the rewards system will work. As I said earlier, I really don't want to pump out 4 hours a day for 6 weeks to get those rewards. But they do look very good.

[Alg]

Lol'd.

[Drazhor]

An Avian Jmod wishing upon the death of another avian creature.

[Sy_Accursed]

Y'know I'm really loving how since October we are getting these more in-depth detail giving BTS videos just like they promised, with more of the info we want and less pointless waffle. They are getting so in-depth it almost feels as if most of them tell us less about the content than the written BTS article did...

[Sylpheed]

Can't decide which of the new armour sets look better. I won't have time to get both but I don't want my choice to impact anything as I'm indifferent. I'll probably wait to see who's winning and then join the losing side.

[helring]

An Avian Jmod wishing upon the death of another avian creature.

 

What else is new? He and Mod Raven are brothers and seem to threaten to destroy each other constantly

[Alg]

 

An Avian Jmod wishing upon the death of another avian creature.

What else is new? He and Mod Raven are brothers and seem to threaten to destroy each other constantly

Anyone who has a brother knows exactly where they're coming from.

[Ts_Stormrage]

From the looks of it, Bandos might lose this one...

 

But no worries, Tuska is on it's way, meaning we trade one beast for another...

 

As usual in the world of Gielenor; the more they change, the more they stay the same...