Kashi Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Hello, my name is Kashi and I'm hear to speak to you about plagiarism. (play-jer-izum). Some of you (probably not) may have read/heard of/used the pages as cigarette papers of a fiction series titled "The Belgariath". Well a friend of mine recommended that I read it, and even let me borrow Book 1 out of her private collection. Now I wont say it was fantastic, but it was certainly good, and unlike any other book I'd ever read in the same genre. I'd suggest you pick up a copy at your local library. The real purpose of this post is that, as I was reading the book I came across a few names that seemed awfully familiar. As in, names that had appearined in RuneScape. Here are just a few. Faldor - A farm where the main character grew up. Compare to "Falador". Trellheim - A mountainous region where another character was born. Compare to "Trollheim". Barak - A viking-style warrior who always wears furs. Compare to "Baraek", a Varrock fur merchant. Durnik - The blacksmith of Faldor's farm. Compare to "Derrik", the blacksmith of Miscellania. Torak the Accursed - Main bad guy. Compare to "Torag the Corrupted". I'm not saying anything, I just think that's a few too many coincidences to be ignored. There are probably more, since I'm only about halfway through the book. If I find any I'll update this. Lock it if you feel necessary, I've sort of lost interest. EDIT: Ugh .. don't cite other examples of this please, since you're all being sarcastic. I'm not talking about them taking the name of the governor of Georgia or stealing Romanian heritage. I just thought it would be a bit too coincidental for all those names to be so similar and not have any prior knowledge of etc. (run on sentence). My greatest ambition is to kill every member of the human race.However I am a realist and therefore know that I probably wont be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malo2 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 do you really think game designers make all those names up? Lastfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan_Chat_Op Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Do you think I really made up all those english papers? I skill. If you skill you should join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Role_Model Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 The Belgariath -- Delrith? :oops: .. lol nice find back to rs, i guess. it's been 4 months. RSN:P H Osho <- gonna start on him soon, fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew_t_d Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 plagiarism ftw! lol... Matthew T-DWhip drops: 9Abyssal head drops: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodveld Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I bet those crackers stole your name too, right? :^_^: I drew that smilie, btw, along with a few more used by this site.Classic bloodveld for lyph3! Although I do like the new ones.Like a ninja, here I was, gone I am now.BUT! I may be back! Add my new account, Dr Bloodveld! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashi Posted August 29, 2006 Author Share Posted August 29, 2006 I bet those crackers stole your name too, right? God I hate you. Alot. :) I'd like to add: Torak the Accursed - Main bad-guy in the book. Compare to "Torag the Corrupted". My greatest ambition is to kill every member of the human race.However I am a realist and therefore know that I probably wont be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkduellord Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I bet those crackers stole your name too, right? hope they dont sue you :o unless you got the copyrights 0.0 Tip.it's 2nd unoffical Go player sm3x; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdean Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 jagex sample things all the time, often doing so so that you have to read the book/watch the film/be english to have a clue what they are talking about. this just happens to be another source for them. Back by popular demand!And I guess I just wanted to tell you, as the light starts to fade, that you aree the reason, that I am not afraid, and I guess I just wanted to mention, as the heavens will fall, that we will be together soon if we will be anything at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScheshireReborn Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Right, for one the serie is called: "The Belgariad" you're getting mixed up with "Belgarath" one of the main characters. I've read all 5 books of The Belgariad, then the Sequel to that series: The Mallorean. Also The Elenium/The Tamuli, more series by David Eddings, basically i've read everything he's written. I can see where you're coming from with these links, but I highly doubt it's plagiarism. Jagex being a company has to abide by rules, and could get fined for stealing content without permission, they'd have too much to lose for names as such. It's probably just complete coincidence, the majority of the names go way back in History,"Barak" for example, the basic Viking Barbarian if you want to stereotype it, the Norse used names like that for their people, they're just regional. For example, you're more likely to find a lad in America or the UK called John, than in somewhere like China, it's regional Good taste in reading though :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy_Monk Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Ok i got another Name thats Close To Being Plagerized. Tyrael (Arch Angel in the Famous Game Diablo) and the slayer Master Turael Do i care?...No its a game..and its Kinda Hard to come up with 1,000 Names...so Who cares sheesh. thats like complaning about Ur Name to Crackers...just let it go ----Retired Runescape Player 1/13/07----- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaklumen Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Topic has been cleaned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smapla Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 We accept your apology for being too observant. Just don't do it again and you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catalin_16 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 ok while browsing a guide of the city burgh de rott , i couldn't help noticing that 80% of the inhabbitants there have typical romanian names (victor , catalina , calin , razvan ,vasile and more) if they made any connection between the social/economical status of my country and burgh de rott( i mean the citisens there are the poorest and u know ... ) ................... well ............... jagex has made a HUGE mistake :( and i DO know some people whose names are the same with the inhabbitants of that city , and they would be mad ..... (my name is the male vresion of catalina) anyway soz if i made gramatical errors and stuff feel free to flame my personal oppinions :ohnoes: retired hehe but i still browse tip.it XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilev Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 they copy alot of thinkgs guam leaf - guam island catherbery - catherey (ug some book that sparked english as a big languge) bruthope - john oguthope founder of georiga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arlom Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 One of the books in "Hitch-hikers guide to the galaxy" is named "Mos le'harmless" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmage099 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Right, for one the serie is called: "The Belgariad" you're getting mixed up with "Belgarath" one of the main characters. I've read all 5 books of The Belgariad, then the Sequel to that series: The Mallorean. Also The Elenium/The Tamuli, more series by David Eddings, basically i've read everything he's written. I can see where you're coming from with these links, but I highly doubt it's plagiarism. Jagex being a company has to abide by rules, and could get fined for stealing content without permission, they'd have too much to lose for names as such. It's probably just complete coincidence, the majority of the names go way back in History,"Barak" for example, the basic Viking Barbarian if you want to stereotype it, the Norse used names like that for their people, they're just regional. For example, you're more likely to find a lad in America or the UK called John, than in somewhere like China, it's regional Good taste in reading though :D I'VE READ THEM TOO! (except I didn't get into the Elenium and Tamuli) Kashi, I get what you're saying because I noticed that too when I first started to play this game (now I dont play but that's besides the point). The most obvious one was Faldor and Trellheim. Just wondering but have you read all of them including the Mallorean? Trix.--quit WoW as of 12/07Thank you 4be2jue for the wonderful sig and avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liiiam Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Oooh that collection is good. I'll edit this if i notice one. Off Topic: Kashi if i pulled you would you gimme a phat as afterall you are crackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meb Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Those books ring a bell... I might have read one or maybe even the entire series... Anyway, loads of games do it so I don't really care if Jagex does it. Retired 2146 overall - 136 combat - 6 skillcapes Plus I think the whole teenage girl thing will end soon (hopefully), because my girlfriend is absolutely in love with him(she is 18), and im beginning to feel threatened by his [Justin Bieber] dashing looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zsandmann Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 A famous person who's name escapes me once said "There's nothing new under the sun." I've never heard an original rap or R&B song, they ALL "sample" It isn't plagerism if it isn't exactly word for word or if it is intended as parody or is overtly obvious. I think its BattleMech??? RPG that has an entire Corp named after Bukaroo Banzai and its characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Its just conincidnece mostly I mean there are only so many random combinations of letters that can be put together to make something easily pronoucable for fantasy names etc Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Its just conincidnece mostly I mean there are only so many random combinations of letters that can be put together to make something easily pronoucable for fantasy names etc Coincedence...or the same guy that writes those books works for jagex : The Complete MTA Handbook | Runecrafting Pouch Analysis | Mobilizing Armies Locator Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baemnt13 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 While reading the Epic "Beowulf," I realized something familiar in RuneScape... The Blue Dragon dungeon in Taverly The last scene in Beowulf, when he fights the dragon, and dies, he is in a room filled with treasure... The Taverly dungeon has gold on the ground, Coincidence =p? I tell the truth even when I lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEV1L Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 well im on the beer so i dont get what your sayin...we got white knights and black knights. omg im going on to jagexs racism but white mystic reminds me of something and how many NPCs are ethnic(is that the right word to use??????) omg never mind i have a cross to burn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyd17 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 While reading the Epic "Beowulf," I realized something familiar in RuneScape... The Blue Dragon dungeon in Taverly The last scene in Beowulf, when he fights the dragon, and dies, he is in a room filled with treasure... The Taverly dungeon has gold on the ground, Coincidence =p?through history it seems all dragons protect gold or some treasure. I'm sure most everyone here has read The Hobbit...It seems like dragons and treasure depend on each other... I kind of like the references that Jagex puts into RS. We all know of "I should call him... mini-pig." and some of ther references to books, movies and stories. Plus, having to write stories in English I'd base some characters on characters in movies, books and games and whatnot. It's just things people do... I doubt it can be called plagiarism because it's not a direct spoof or copy of the book series. But good eyes for spotting those things. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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