Do you smoke?

[ctp080188]

I would never spend my hard earned money on such a habit. I can't say I enjoy breathing in second hand smoke, but if I don't like if someone is smoking close to me, then I will ask if they would mind stopping. If they do mind, then I'll move away.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hell, it's your own choice what you do with your life, but it's something I believe has next to no point, hence will never take up. If you want to do it though, then just don't do it around me please.

[Hobgoblin11]

It seems sad and slightly amusing that so many people seem to hate smokers intriniscaly, complaining about the effects they have on others etc. But, there are quite a few non-smoking venues, there are non-smoking areas, in public and up and down the street you can walk for quite a way without seeing anyone actualy smoking. I only smoke when I drink or when i'm stressed. This means that I smoke about 3-5 a week, but all on the same night. Some of my friends smoke, some of them don't. If they don't want me to smoke, I don't. If I want to smoke I don't hang out with the people that don't. All it takes is a bit of consideration on behalf of the smoker and your problems are sorted out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for lung cancer etc...I knew all the risks, I knew almost everything that it can do to you. My grandmother died of it, I have done loads of biology projects demonstrating how bad it can be, I have seen people who are addicted who shake until they can get thier fix, and the first thing they do in the morning is have a smoke. I've seen all this, I know all this. I had no, absolutley no peer pressure on me to start. if anything I had pressure against it. I made a free choice to do it. I exercised my free will to do it (in commonly accepted terms, as a side issue I have come to the view that free will is not extant). I made a free and, as much as possible, unbaised choice. Get used to the idea that I am able to do that, and say "hey I don't give a damn what it does to me. I want to do it, I like the hit, it relaxes me. I have made a choice based on all the options available to me. It is my right to make such a choice. I weighed up the pro's and con's and just because I didn't choose the path you wanted me to, doesn't mean I didn't listen to you. I just didn't agree with you, much like I can disagree with you about anything - the exitsance of god etc. So please, I'm not going to smoke in your face if you don't want me to, I'm not going to force you to get second hand smoke. If you want me to stop in your presence, I will, if you ask me. I don't see your problem. So get lost!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Asssassin says, I respect you a lot for your views on that. I don't have an issue with people who want to smoke in private, and have the upmost consideration for the needs and wants of other people, because then the only person that your decision makes you affect is yourself. If you know the risks, as you say, its your choice, I personally cannot understand your decision but nevertheless it is your choice. I have an issue though, with smokers who are inconsiderate to other people, who smoke around them regardless and as a result mae other people breathe in carcinogenic smoke, and make other people smell of smoke. If all smokers were like you, I don't think non-smokers would resent smokers nearlly half as much, but unfortunately a lot of people in this world look after number 1 first, and sod everybody else, and this carries through to their smoking habits. This then, is why smoking has gained a bad reputation and why it is resented by many who do not partake in it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In summary, a message to smokers is this: Learn from FuBai's post, if you are a considerate smoker who respects the needs of other people, you will most likely be accepted into social groups much better, and there need not be such a division in opinion and stance.

[Zaafara]

No, havent before. Never will either :XD:

[mikehild]

Never have, and hopefully never will. I have no desire to.

[blue107]

Seriously smoking is just pathetic

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lets see... to whoever complains about big macs are as bad as cigarettes WRONG

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Big macs dont pollute the air, make people die from second hand smoke, make people stink, pollute(as much)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

p.s i hate them anyway

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but still anyone who smokes... seek help

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

all your doing is making people suffer from 2nd hand smoke, destroying yourself, waisting on all your money...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i suggest getting some nicotine patches and stop ruining our lives (and your own)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. cars pollute and cause more "2nd hand smoke" than cigarettes

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2.a month worth of nicotine patches cost as much as almost half a year of cigarettes for me

[The Dark Lord]

You mean the illegal kind? :Stoned Smiley:

[hellbellz]

Hell no. My mother does it, grandparents used to. My mother has shown me what smoking can do, and trust me, it's not a good thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most of my friends smoke (illegal, ciggarettes, etc.) but I don't mind. I'm pretty nuetral on smoking. :|

[Ddrmaster7]

Never have tried, never going to take one puff. I'm slightly surprised that smoking isn't illegal by now. (I'm sure someone here is going to tell me why it's not.) Smoking is shameful.

[The Dark Lord]

cigarettes...no.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

other things...maybe.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I lost the perfect smiley I could paste in this post. :x

[The Dark Lord]

I don't see anything wrong with it morally, except if you smoke illegally (drugs, underage).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It can only hurt you, especially if you already have respiratory problems.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have asthma, so that is one reason that I will never smoke. Other than that, the scent is disgusting and seems to make the air heavier to breathe if you know what I mean...

[Bufoman]

cigirets- no. Cigars- on ocasion. I smoke them for the flavor and the relaxation they bring. that said I smoke maby one every few months, I dont smoke around other people just myself and maby some one else out doors.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that said I don't recomend you start a habit of smokeing or any thing thats addicting. My case is diffrent from most who smoke becouse they have become addicted, I only smoke for plesure.

[The Dark Lord]

cigirets- no. Cigars- on ocasion. I smoke them for the flavor and the relaxation they bring. that said I smoke maby one every few months, I dont smoke around other people just myself and maby some one else out doors.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that said I don't recomend you start a habit of smokeing or any thing thats addicting. My case is diffrent from most who smoke becouse they have become addicted, I only smoke for plesure.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Moderation like that shouldn't harm you much.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Okay, this is a stupid question...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do cigars contain nicotine?

[magekillr]

cigarettes? no...disgusting

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

weed? nty...i don't do drugs

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

cigars? every once in a while for celebrations

[Bufoman]

yes as a matter of fact cigars do contain nicotine infact around 100 times the nicotine in cigerets. however you do not inhale a cigar, you taste the aroma. nicotine is a stimulent this is true but in great enough quanitys some stimulents can relax people, I am one of those people. I admit that smokeing in any form probaly takes some years off your life but I have decided long ago not to play it safe just so I can die in my bed of old age.

[insane]

I weighed up the pro's and con's

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Would you mind providing me with these "pro's"?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I might go so far as to say that it's incredibly selfish to say "I hate smokers," and especially for the reasons given. Like "It pollutes the air." If you drive, use electricity, or produce waste, you are polluting the air. And, by the sheer fact that you are involved in this discussion, it can be said that you partake in at least one of those activities that pollute. So now that we got that out of the way, people who say "I hate smokers because they pollute the air" are not only selfish, but they are hypocrites.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hypocrites yes, but it doesn't change the fact that smoking is an additional pollutant in the air. I may drive a car and pollute the air that way, but driving a car is a necessity (smoking is not). Also, smokers drive cars as well - they're just doing a little extra polluting. Since they are polluting the air more than I am, in unnecessary ways, and sometimes blowing this pollutant right into my face, I can legitimately complain.

[jackalope14]

I dont smoke. In fact, I have never even tried a cigarette and I dont plan to ever. Although I suspect that sometime down the road I will atleast try one.

[FuBai]

 

I weighed up the pro's and con's

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Would you mind providing me with these "pro's"?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It gives you a hit

 

 

 

It relaxes you

 

 

 

It doesn't make you incapable of doing good work/driving after having one, unlike alcohol.

 

 

 

If you come into my school smelling of [bleep]s the teachers just look at you in a disaproving way, if you come into school smelling of weed/alcohol etc you get suspended.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are others, but these are the main ones. You must remember that these may not seem particularly good reasons to you. How good reasons they are is not under question - it is that there are reasons and I freeley made a choice based upon them. Feel free to choose the other way. It's your right to do so. Even if it was only one appalingly bad reason ("I like fish, and fish remind me of cigarettes" or something similar), then I could say "yep, that's good enough for me. I'll take a risk, neigh a certainty of ill effects to portray to the world my undying love of fish". And everyone would say "what a wierd guy. It takes all sorts." But the choice is there, and I had all the information at my fingertips. Few can help having at least a reasonably extensive knowledge of the ill effects of smoking, there is an unbeleivable amount of anti-smoking advertising out there. (This is, in fact, slightly odd on the behalf of the government, seeing as smokers are almost national benefactors. They pay billions and billions in taxes purley on thier cigarettes, and when they die early, the NHS has avoided having to pay for geriatric care etc which far outstrips the cost of a smoker dieing from a coronary or lung cancer at 60.) I welcome the fact that it's out there too. How can you make a free choice if you don't know the facts? So yes, I do beleive there are some benefits to smoking. You can disagree. You can tell me God exists and i'll tell you that your fooling yourself. You can tell me potatoes are pronounced pot-ahh-t-ahhs, and I'll guffauh knowingly. If anything I have less reason to beleive that potatoes are pronounced pot-ate-oes rather than pot-ahh-t-ahhs than I do to smoke a jumbo spliff every day. But that doesn't matter, because I made a free choice.

[Midge]

I don't smoke. It disgusts me.

[terley]

I only ever smoke on the odd occasion when im alcohol level is above average. : I cant even remember if I have or not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

day to day, no. its a terrible habbit, they're banning smoking in all public places in britain soon.. new year I think.

[kelem_ryu]

 

 

 

I may drive a car and pollute the air that way, but driving a car is a necessity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't drive a car. I use public transportation. So driving is certainly not a necessity.

[How2PK]

 

I smoke. Just started a long time ago and just never really stoped. I like it with a drink. Other than that I don't smoke that much, maybe two packages a week. My father smokes sigar and pipe.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 packs a week not much? thats a starnge definition man, really... :-s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think 40 cigarettes a week is that bad (as in not too much. I know that every cigarette is bad, for your health anyway). There are tons of people who smoke 40 cigarettes a day.

[a7xpure]

 

 

I smoke. Just started a long time ago and just never really stoped. I like it with a drink. Other than that I don't smoke that much, maybe two packages a week. My father smokes sigar and pipe.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 packs a week not much? thats a starnge definition man, really... :-s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think 40 cigarettes a week is that bad (as in not too much. I know that every cigarette is bad, for your health anyway). There are tons of people who smoke 40 cigarettes a day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yeah 2 packs in a week honestly isn't that bad, I've known chain smokers who do around 5 packs a day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But, then of course there is the factor of if they are menthol/100's/120's/normal because 2 packs of menthol a week may be a bad idea.

[How2PK]

Nah, just normal luckies.

[insane]

 

 

 

 

I may drive a car and pollute the air that way, but driving a car is a necessity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't drive a car. I use public transportation. So driving is certainly not a necessity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, how silly of me. I thought public transportation polluted the earth. I guess it doesn't.

[kelem_ryu]

 

 

 

 

 

I may drive a car and pollute the air that way, but driving a car is a necessity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't drive a car. I use public transportation. So driving is certainly not a necessity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, how silly of me. I thought public transportation polluted the earth. I guess it doesn't.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Uh.. 1) I pointed out that driving isn't a necessity, wich you didn't comment on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2) You can hardly compare the pollution by public transportation to that of private.