Eating meat - right or wrong?

[Make7upu101]

I'm just trying to get what everyone's thinking when they eat meat. For me it's just a "I don't need it so why should I," sort of thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I find it hard to see how people can say to their selves "I can eat this because I don't know it." It just seems like that If I ate meat It wouldnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t matter to me whether it was a pug or a cow. At the same time though I stopped eating meat at an early age so I developed my morals without eating meat so it's complicated.

[Myridden]

First off all, eating meat is ok in my epinion, because if people just don't kill the babys of animals we will never run out of animals :roll: !

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You just have to ignore the fealing you get when you eat meat, its clean and its not that bad

[The Dark Lord]

I'm just trying to get what everyone's thinking when they eat meat. For me it's just a "I don't need it so why should I," sort of thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I find it hard to see how people can say to their selves "I can eat this because I don't know it." It just seems like that If I ate meat It wouldnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t matter to me whether it was a pug or a cow. At the same time though I stopped eating meat at an early age so I developed my morals without eating meat so it's complicated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A dog? People eat pug-nosed dogs? :shock: :shock: :shock:

[Youaretheman]

I don't get it. The earth revolves around different cycles. Like the food chain. Animals eat other animals, do they care? Like take dinosaurs. Some are herbavores, some are carnavores..and humans are omnivours. There is a reason for it and we eat meat just because it's a part of the food chain. So uh yeah, humans need meat.

[Tigra00]

Vegetarians wouldn't last a week in a world that doesn't cater to their whiney needs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Our ancestors grew up partaking in the food chain. Is it cruel? No. It's nature. Is it sad that animals die for us to survive? Sure, but again, it's nature. If you were in the wilderness, would you not kill and eat an animal? Or would you just opt to eat twigs and maple leafs? Kinda' hard to make a Caesar Salad in the freakin' woods.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Shrug* I guess that's just my view. Leave your options open and all that. I would not hesitate to strangle a baby deer with my belt if it was me > him, lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I won't go farther than drinking Soy Milk. I don't drink milk because it has hormones in it from the cows and it's *NOT* good for you at all. Plus, I think Vanilla Soy Milk tastes way better...Milk tastes like thick water to me, lol. No real taste. Soy milk, vegetables and meat have all the calcium I need, and so help me, if someone says I'm going to die from not drinking milk due to lack of calcium, I'm going to sock them in the eye. That's the most brain-washing campaign in all of the food industry, lol.

[Nadril]

I'm just trying to get what everyone's thinking when they eat meat. For me it's just a "I don't need it so why should I," sort of thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I find it hard to see how people can say to their selves "I can eat this because I don't know it." It just seems like that If I ate meat It wouldnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t matter to me whether it was a pug or a cow. At the same time though I stopped eating meat at an early age so I developed my morals without eating meat so it's complicated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know about everyone else, but I for one do not think about the "moral implications" of myself eating a piece of steak or juicy burger.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I generaly think [if its good ;p] "damn... this tastes good".

[InkofDeath]

Well imo, I'm not a vegatarian but everyone should know how deer are killed off when their population over grows or over popluates and that threatens the ecosystem, so hunters go and kill off some. I think in this case killing off cattle and any other form of meat would be right, since its helping not just everything else but also that type of animal(if only us humans would be shot or murdered, hey why aren't we murdered from keeping ourselves from over-populating?).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also if you kill something for a religious believe i think thats an acception like christmas, thanksgiving, easter, new years..etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But i don't think an animal shuld be killed because some person likes the taste and would like to degrade that animal by eating it, but murdering it beforehand or buying it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just think what if cows liked the way humans taste? would we try and stop them from killing us? of course we would we'd think it was unright, unbelievable at that too but we'd defend our race wouldn't we? now whats the emotional difference between humans and animals? they both come from nature.

[BlueTear]

Vegetarians wouldn't last a week in a world that doesn't cater to their whiney needs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Our ancestors grew up partaking in the food chain. Is it cruel? No. It's nature. Is it sad that animals die for us to survive? Sure, but again, it's nature. If you were in the wilderness, would you not kill and eat an animal? Or would you just opt to eat twigs and maple leafs? Kinda' hard to make a Caesar Salad in the freakin' woods.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Shrug* I guess that's just my view. Leave your options open and all that. I would not hesitate to strangle a baby deer with my belt if it was me > him, lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ah yes, as someone who - in a completely industrialized society - choses to eat meat, you would be equipped with all the neccesary tools to survive, should you somehow end up in a situation similar to that of our long-distant pre-agricultural ancestors. Clearly, your modern whiny [wagon] who visits McDonalds and orders a burger is better equipped to survive than the guy who orders a salad. After all, there's meat in your burger!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If your diet consists of more meat than you need to maintain a nutritious diet, unless it consists of more meat because of what's available where you live - and no, I don't mean Wal-Mart when I say available - talking about evolution and other animals and how it's the "natural thing to do" just makes you look stupid. The meat you eat was not magically conjured, nor did it live on the savannah, nor did you hunt it down and slay it yourself. It's the product of a highly industrialized, systematic, inhuman (pun intended) exploitation of various animals (In a western country where you're likely to be living to be able to participate in a online discussion).

[Youaretheman]

 

 

 

 

For every animal you don't eat, I'll eat three.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hooray Maddox. :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And just to clear this up, the eggs we eat are unfertilized. That means that no matter how long you let it sit around, it will not ever grow into a chicken.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If anyone remembers from the topic I started a few weeks ago, I love meat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No. You mutilate your meat with fire beyond recognition. It doesn't count as meat... it's just a hunk of oxidized cells.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, meat needs to be juicy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Man, I could go for a red steak right now... =P~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oooh.. yeah.... rare steak... the way the french do them... dripping with blood.... all chewy and nice...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:ohnoes: :ohnoes: :ohnoes: :ohnoes:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I need steak!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Omg. Nad, remember in uhm..Paris I think yeah. When I got that freakin rump roast. That was like really rare and like bloody. Omg that junks was sooooooooo good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:P

[Tigra00]

 

Vegetarians wouldn't last a week in a world that doesn't cater to their whiney needs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Our ancestors grew up partaking in the food chain. Is it cruel? No. It's nature. Is it sad that animals die for us to survive? Sure, but again, it's nature. If you were in the wilderness, would you not kill and eat an animal? Or would you just opt to eat twigs and maple leafs? Kinda' hard to make a Caesar Salad in the freakin' woods.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Shrug* I guess that's just my view. Leave your options open and all that. I would not hesitate to strangle a baby deer with my belt if it was me > him, lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ah yes, as someone who - in a completely industrialized society - choses to eat meat, you would be equipped with all the neccesary tools to survive, should you somehow end up in a situation similar to that of our long-distant pre-agricultural ancestors. Clearly, your modern whiny [wagon] who visits McDonalds and orders a burger is better equipped to survive than the guy who orders a salad. After all, there's meat in your burger!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If your diet consists of more meat than you need to maintain a nutritious diet, unless it consists of more meat because of what's available where you live - and no, I don't mean Wal-Mart when I say available - talking about evolution and other animals and how it's the "natural thing to do" just makes you look stupid. The meat you eat was not magically conjured, nor did it live on the savannah, nor did you hunt it down and slay it yourself. It's the product of a highly industrialized, systematic, inhuman (pun intended) exploitation of various animals (In a western country where you're likely to be living to be able to participate in a online discussion).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You fail to see the point. Out in the "wild", there are no salads. That is, unless you wish to cut open the stomache contents of a rabbit...Which would be killing an animal anyways. That's about as close as you'll get. We are of course assuming you have the ability to survive in the wild - most people probably don't. But assuming everyone did...A vegetarian would die. There aren't enough good, filling edible things just readily available in plant-form. A lot of vegetarian diets consist of things made by our industrialized world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Assuming early man is even related to us and that Homo-Sapiens were not dropped here by God, our ancestors fought and killed animals, for meat. Surely they ate fruit if they could find any, 'cause if they didn't, they'd get scurvey and die, but when they were trouncing around in the snow, they didn't have the option to make a delicious salad with ranch dressing, did they? No. They speared a deer in the face and ate it. Why? 'Cause they had to.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Humans are the only creatures on Earth who understand the concept of murder. Every other animal kills for survival, and I don't see why we're any different. Just because we mass-produce meat? We have to. People need it, there is money in the business, and most people don't know how to hunt. Deal with it. That's how it is. We're the same as animals, we're just MUCH more effecient. We have placed animal cruelty laws, and animals are killed humanely by most companies. Ever notice how PETA never reports on GOOD meat companies? You know, the ones who follow ALL the rules to a T? Yea - it's because that's not part of their propaganda. They don't want a single living thing to die an be eaten. They're unrealistic hippies; and that's being nice about it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shall I even touch base on animal population control? It isn't like there is a shortage of cows, chickens and deer. Know why? 'Cause there are plenty of those damned animals. Especially deer - if we do not hunt them, they over-populate and spread disease.

[kelem_ryu]

I was vegetarian for some reason for about two years (also didn't eat eggs).Was a good experience, because now i'm more aware about how the food i'm eating feels like. Meat is much richer and more saturating. Vegeatarian cousine is light in the stomache. Since i was vegetarian i hardly eat any sausage anymore and i taste egg out of cakes (yuck).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Eating meat right or wrong? I don't care. Right&wrong are wierd concepts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thought about it: Vegetarian cousine feels cleaner. (To me at least).

[How2PK]

The only thing that could make me a vegetarian, is how the animals are specifically grown; thousands of chiken stuffed in a little farm to produce as much as they can. But thankfully we've got biologic food etc. for that stuff, so I don't have to be a vegeterian.

[issy2]

I see it like this - is killing an innocent animal, removing its life from the earth, spilling its blood, really justified because 'that's how Nature intended it to be,'

 

 

 

I'm really, really, not trying to shove my views down your throats or anything, I just want to know how you all feel about it.

[Tigra00]

I see it like this - is killing an innocent animal, removing its life from the earth, spilling its blood, really justified because 'that's how Nature intended it to be,'

 

 

 

I'm really, really, not trying to shove my views down your throats or anything, I just want to know how you all feel about it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes. The only reason some humans see it as "wrong" is because we often do not hunt our meat, we raise them to be killed.

[Notorious_Ice]

I see it like this - is killing an innocent animal, removing its life from the earth, spilling its blood, really justified because 'that's how Nature intended it to be,'

 

 

 

I'm really, really, not trying to shove my views down your throats or anything, I just want to know how you all feel about it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What about the millions of animals every year killed by harvesters getting the food that you eat instead of animals? At least the animals killed for food doesn't get wasted.

[BlueTear]

You fail to see the point. Out in the "wild", there are no salads. That is, unless you wish to cut open the stomache contents of a rabbit...Which would be killing an animal anyways. That's about as close as you'll get. We are of course assuming you have the ability to survive in the wild - most people probably don't. But assuming everyone did...A vegetarian would die. There aren't enough good, filling edible things just readily available in plant-form. A lot of vegetarian diets consist of things made by our industrialized world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

While I'll cheerfully agree that the vegetarian would be malnutritioned in short order - exactly how short depends on what kind of plantlife is in the region, as soy beans for example contains protein - but you are not your ancestor. (And where the heck do you think edible plants come from anyway? Science labs? Of course there's edible plants in the wilds).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Assuming early man is even related to us and that [bleep]-Sapiens were not dropped here by God, our ancestors fought and killed animals, for meat. Surely they ate fruit if they could find any, 'cause if they didn't, they'd get scurvey and die, but when they were trouncing around in the snow, they didn't have the option to make a delicious salad with ranch dressing, did they? No. They speared a deer in the face and ate it. Why? 'Cause they had to.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unless you intend to lay claim to being the last of the neanderthal - which is fine by me - you are in no way able to classify yourself as primitve man. You're most likely not even able to classify yourself as someone who hunts for food because no, stalking meat counters in local foodstores does not count. In other words, you - no matter what your ancestor's did, what people living in comparatively poor conditions around the globe do today - do not have to. Even ignoring replacing a meat diet completely and just minimizing the consumption of meat to healthy levels, or minimal health levels, you are quite likely to be above what you need in order to survive. A fair portion of the meat you eat is not - again, regardless of what your ancestor's were doing - eaten because you need it in order to survive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not saying it's morally wrong to eat meat in order to survive, I'm saying anyone who refers to nature, primitive man or survival as an argument defending his own meat consumption in a western nation is taking asinine hypocracy to a very special level. Unless they actually do eat only as much meat as they need in order to provide themselves with a healthy diet, which I sincerely doubt most of the people who argued that particular point do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Humans are the only creatures on Earth who understand the concept of murder. Every other animal kills for survival, and I don't see why we're any different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hmmm... You got me there... What could it possibly be, this elusive ability of ours. I think, I just think, it might have to do with the way our abstract thinking allows us to design ethical codes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Too subtle? I could make the text larger? No? Yes? No?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just because we mass-produce meat? We have to. People need it, there is money in the business, and most people don't know how to hunt. Deal with it. That's how it is. We're the same as animals, we're just MUCH more effecient. We have placed animal cruelty laws, and animals are killed humanely by most companies. Ever notice how PETA never reports on GOOD meat companies? You know, the ones who follow ALL the rules to a T? Yea - it's because that's not part of their propaganda. They don't want a single living thing to die an be eaten. They're unrealistic hippies; and that's being nice about it.

 

 

 

Do we have to, or do we want to?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is your meat consumption at a minimal level to maintain a balanced diet, or do you eat more meat than you really need?

 

 

 

Shall I even touch base on animal population control? It isn't like there is a shortage of cows, chickens and deer. Know why? 'Cause there are plenty of those damned animals. Especially deer - if we do not hunt them, they over-populate and spread disease.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh please... The first two are breed in mass quantities by us, and have been doing so long their wild relatives are found only in zoo's and the third keeps overpopulating because their natural enemies are big predators we killed off. No, eating meat is not an environmental service. At best, it ranks at a solution to a problem we created for ourselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What about the millions of animals every year killed by harvesters getting the food that you eat instead of animals? At least the animals killed for food doesn't get wasted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Where as the meat you eat is magically conjured, and doesn't involve feeding the cows with plant life. Well, actually, fish is fairly common. It's cheaper to feed cattle fish fished outside the coasts of Africa. The fact that people manage to die from starvation while we waste 90% of the fish (see, as a rule of thumb regarding the food chain, 1kg of meat requires 10kg of food for whatever it is. So 1kg of meat raised on fish requires 10kg of fish, which requires 100kg of whatever the fish lived on. Every step up the chain causes a loss of nine tenth's.) is just a sort of weird twist of fate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or another reason, completely separate from morality, why eating meat might not be the best of ideas.

[Futurama]

I eat meat.

 

 

 

Not really eggs, think they're pretty disgusting on account of it being an unborn chicken foetus :/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fair play to vegetarians and vegans, up to them if they don't want to eat meat/dairy etc. just not my choice :)

[topham]

i'm a vegitarian and have been since i was born, i see no problem with eating meat and its never fascinated me enough to try it, and now, having lived without meat for my whole life i found that how ever much protein i get in my diet i'm protien deficient, compared to an average person, meat would make the protien levels in me be sufficient, however eating meat now would have tooo much protien and eating it will make me violently ill.

 

 

 

anyway, yeh i'm a vegitarian but i see no problem in eating meat whatsoever, how ever there are certain meats i dont like seeing people eat.

 

 

 

i cant drink milk, its actually the taste, it makes me gag, however i absolutely adore cheese, bit silly i agree, but oh well. and i dont like eggs on their own either.

[RSroriniho]

Screw vegiterians, when I see a cow in a meadow I see a juicy steak with a leather jacket on

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now that is funny. But so wrong. like putting a bomb under a person in a wheelchair and shouting RUN FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

by the way, if you want to laugh at the stupidity of fellow human beings head off to www.peta.org. Now that is funny.

[indy500fan]

Now that is funny. But so wrong. like putting a bomb under a person in a wheelchair and shouting RUN FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

by the way, if you want to laugh at the stupidity of fellow human beings head off to www.peta.org. Now that is funny.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[How2PK]

Harsh. :P

[apinagez]

That's cute, Indy. :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, on a most serious note: what has been bothering me about this topic is the 'right or wrong' thing. It is just so naive to look at anything in life through those parameters. Both vegetarians and meat eaters are right: people are given the right to eat whatever they want to eat.

[RSroriniho]

 

Now that is funny. But so wrong. like putting a bomb under a person in a wheelchair and shouting RUN FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

by the way, if you want to laugh at the stupidity of fellow human beings head off to www.peta.org. Now that is funny.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Could someone give him a knighthood for services to humour please... :lol: :XD: :lol: :XD:

[RSroriniho]

I won't go farther than drinking Soy Milk. I don't drink milk because it has hormones in it from the cows and it's *NOT* good for you at all. Plus, I think Vanilla Soy Milk tastes way better...Milk tastes like thick water to me, lol. No real taste. Soy milk, vegetables and meat have all the calcium I need, and so help me, if someone says I'm going to die from not drinking milk due to lack of calcium, I'm going to sock them in the eye. That's the most brain-washing campaign in all of the food industry, lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Living up to the world view of Americans as loud mouthed idiots who don'y use any evidence but just threaten to use violence on any one they don't agree with... :uhh: :-# :uhh:

[nvw08]

I have no problem with it. The animals that we eat were grown for this, so that they don't take any out of the wild, and their all killed in a way that is painless.