Bladewing

Starting both skills at 40. Runecrafting to 95: Time: 1500 hours Profit: 150-175m Mining to 85: Time: 250 hours Profit: 0 Time to make 175m: 450 hours That saves you about 800 hours. Runecrafting is simply inferior for money. Yes, runite mining is tedious, but he's working for a partyhat. No matter what he does it will be tedious. Runecrafting may be enjoyable for relaxing profit, but not for grinding out money.

If you were meant to be self sufficient, why is it a multiplayer game in which you can trade? And as far as all traders being scammers, last time I checked both parties agreed to the deal voluntarily. Both parties gain from trade.

Observer bias: the update is strange to you, so it feels bad. You feel like monsters die more slowly because your mind thinks it's bad. You recorded no data. It is IMPOSSIBLE for you to kill more slowly because the mathematics will show that you actually deal more damage.

You [cabbage]tin me? Melee is the best choice, even if you use top notch range and mage gear and weapons, for EVERY task but Ice wyrms. This has got to be a joke.

As it stands, the "street value" for the partyhats listed are about: Purple: 525m Green: 800m Yellow: 850m I estimate the "true value" of these partyhats to be about: Puprle: 400m Green: 525m Yellow: 500m Add on a 20% increase in value (due to the nature of discontinueds) during the time it will take you to amass this kind of money in F2P and you're looking at spending at least 500m+. Now as for the money making... 200k per hour from runecrafting is much less than runite mining. Runite mining is THE best F2P method for money making. If you time your ores you can get about 400k an hour F2P runite mining. The best method for making money would be mining runite while flipping in the grand exchange. Since you're adamant about not flipping, you will have to depend solely on your mining ability. You are looking at about 750 hours or MORE to get just the GE value of a purple. At 5 hours a day, it'll take you about five months of purely grinding money for a paper hat. Your best bet as far as actually obtaining one is to snipe from the GE, I'm afraid. Nobody with a partyhat or easter egg has F2P junk, so you will never be able to buy one for their street value.

You can get about 2300-2400 per hour using unfinished potions with a stackable secondary. I obtained this data timing myself making extreme ranging potions which also have a stackable secondary (grenwall spikes).

You get 1650-1750 per hour with yak, and NOT ONCE did the burners go out on me. No reason to use tortoise. Anyone saying otherwise is uninformed.

How can you not realize you are bumping a six month old topic. :wall:

60-70m street.

Selling Fire Capes has been a huge RWT thing for a while... EDIT: Also, I can easily manage 320+ Crimsons in 40 minutes at Chaos Tunnel Waterfiends, and I almost broke even as well. Yeah because it just isnt a scam buying an untradeable cape amirite? You give them your account details, they get you a fire cape.

One more point. You have 80 attack and strength. I feel that the godsword should be reserved for top level players. I request that the godsword require 135 combat at 99 attack and strength. How does that feel to you? Your point is just the same: "hurr durr i got 5 moar levels than them 100 combat n00bz godsword is onlee for meeeeeee"

Goddamn you are persistent for a lazy person.

Maybe more effort, but it increases your output a lot.

If you really want to quit, change your recoveries and email address to gibberish, then once they're confirmed, change your password to gibberish.

Doesn't make any sense for them to be bought out in the first place. No one is going to be making prayer potions during the weekend, so supply should be the same as always.

What skill were you doing? - Farming What is your level in that skill? - 96 How long before your 1st/2nd rock? - I got two within 40 torstols (one herb run) How much xp (or other rewards) did you receive for creating a statue? - Haven't cashed them in yet. May edit later, but I predict 9120 xp. Pretty confident you cannot get them from heavy rod fishing. I've gone about 150k xp there today without one rock.

There are only upsides to this, aside from the trouble getting used to seeing 300s on a regular basis.

The most xp you can squeeze out of your charms is: Make 58 of Spirit wolf Make 95 of Dreadfowl Make 126 of Spirit spider Make 17 of Granite crab Make 734 of Mosquito Make 157 of Bull ant Make 122 of Evil turnip Make 117 of Pyrelord Make 149 of Bloated leech Make 396 of Spirit terrorbird Make 350 of Abyssal parasite Make 409 of Ibis Make 153 of Karamthulhu overlord Make 247 of Smoke devil Make 139 of Spirit cobra Make 715 of Stranger plant Make 120 of Barker toad Make 11 of Bunyip Make 2 of Mithril minotaur You will end with 68 summoning. But of course first do the quest, and training by tears is a good method. I recommend you save your blues until 83/89 summoning, too. The best way to make pouches for you would probably be to put your house in taverly and use the obelisk there. If you want to start farming, I recommend gaining access to all four allottment patches first. This involves doing Ghosts Ahoy for the Ectophial and Lumbridge Diary for the explorers' ring. Plant the best of everything you can in each patch at each location, then play Sorceress' Garden while you wait for them to grow.

Cannon these: Abberant Spectres Black Demons Mutated Bloodvelds Dagannoth All Strykewyrms Kalphites (potential skip/block task) Suqah Know that magic is only efficient for ice wyrms, but if you want to use magic on other tasks here are some it'd be decent against: Abyssal Demons Black Demons (especially if you cannon also) Blue Dragons Iron Dragons Steel Dragons Mithril Dragons Nechyraels and probably others, but to be honest you don't see a lot of mages. Try it out and tell us ^^

Goddammit...

Do not use guthans. You do not want to sacrifice the damage output of whip and black mask. Take food or better armor.

Whenever the market trades slowly (i.e. most items are crashing or most are bought out) updates are further apart.

Things government institutionalized entities are better at than market competition: Public Defense Utilities Transfer Payments/Donations As an individual, paying taxes is generally preferable to its alternatives, not paying taxes and being arrested or withdrawing from the system and being autonomous. There is no morality but the morality of free market economics. Rational self interest is the only commandment. If you participate in the government it is because you have deemed it the rational decision and that you gain more than you lose.

WARE IS MY UPDAYT I PAY I SAY

Because we need even higher prices [/sarcasm] Realize that any change in combat mechanics will have an enormous ripple effect. You can reduce damage by 25% with new gemmed equipment? You thought Bandos was crowded before, look at it now. I'd say no. What we DON'T need right now is to [bleep] up an already unstable marketplace. Did you even think this through before you spewed out that insane comment? Did you ever stop to wonder why the draron legs are pretty much worthless now? Ill give you a hint because you are dumb. Its because there are more and more comming into the game every day and there are very few LEAVING the game every day. The only way to maintain the value of an item is to stabalize the price of the item. Items leaving the game is a good thing. Just because you are a poor noob and cant afford items dosent mean the rest of the players who dont suck should have to suffer. And the market place is unstable because of the mechanic of the GE. First off you would be the one who doesn't reread your comments. It is full of logical fallacies and generalized and misinformed opinions, not to mention typographical errors. You are correct that the way the GE works is partly why the market is unstable. Add to that the inflation from PvP drops (which has since leveled) and you have a fine balancing act. Single updates - hell, even announcements of updates (c.f. "Save The Date!") - can send the market into chaos. Prices cannot adjust quickly, and something to the effect of drastically decreasing supply and increasing demand for armours would have catastrophic effects on every sector of the Runescape economy. Now to refute your points. Dragon legs are worthless because they are a piece of worthless armor. They are worthless because there are many substitutes which are competetively priced (c.f. Dharok's Platelegs). The only way to maintain the value of an item is for the item to remain valuable and desired. Artificially holding the price of outdated equipments is inefficient and frankly economically [developmentally delayed]ed. Items leaving the game is good for a particular individual holding said items, such as you or I - the people who are not "poor noobs," as you would say. On the other hand, this would be bad for "poor noobs" who do not currently own these equipments, whether they have only 100k or sold their gear for a month because they were taking a break. Moreover, items leaving the game is bad for the economy in a macro sense. The reduced supply would cause stagflation which is universally accepted as bad. -- I'll have you know that I am neither poor nor a noob, and I can afford any piece of equipment in the game and would consider my stats to be adequate. I have never seen such unprovoked ad hominem attacks on TIF in response to a simple criticism of ideas and principles, and frankly it's disgusting. No need to flip a [bleep] when someone disagrees with you. As for: I let my logical arguments speak for themselves. A comparison of my posts to someone who is not dumb (presumably one such as yourself) will show my merits.