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Well this will probably be a very personnal opinion, but a balanced character will have no more than 10 levels higher or lower than his median level. That will leave out a lot of players (and doesn't take into account xp gained after level 99). People with a skill cape for the sake of it are definitely not balanced, pkers and pures are not built for that either. I agree there are not a lot of players that are balanced from my definition. Meh it's all academic, you know by now I'm just arguying for the fun of it and keeping this thread the most viewed and debated on the rants board! :thumbsup: Still, pretty interesting discussion going on here. Edit : just check how "balanced" my character was: median skill is 94 fish, farming and wcutting... meaning 84 as my lowest level would make me balanced : fail averages skill is 87 : would need 77 as my lowest skill to make me balanced... A couple more years of tears and circus should do the trick!

In truth, almost anyone coming over to debate on this thread arguying against Compfreak have used the fun factor argument and I am one of them. I guess somewhere in our subconcious mind, there is a nagging voice repeating the thread title over and over suggesting the main subject is about an opinion of the skill rather than a evaluation of the skill based on facts (xp rates and money rates). Some players do not like the repetitive gameplay of slayer, while others can If you are looking to max out total levels or at leasts get a balanced character, keeping clear of slayer is probably a very bad idea.

85 mining is a great milestone. Grats!

troll alert, please remain calm and let the mods lock this oh so timely accurate thread.

robin from a clue visage from a steel dragon \

lamps from randoms, pengouin pts come to mind

a d spear from a fire giant in late 2004 when I was around 85 combat. I have gotten 9 meds, 6 spears, around 15 legs/skirts and over 50 boots to date. The first drop is always special though.

Just pointing out that buying raw food and cooking it, is training the skill in a way it was intended. There is not a specific way to train a skill. RS is a role playing game, whatever fits your gameplay is only good for you. Everyone else is free to do what the hell they want (getting a skillcape through a buyable skill or getting 99 str killing chickens).

Can't argue with that. Combat is what drives me to play RS. PvM mainly, I suck big time at PVP. In fact I was just posting to make sure we are on agreement on that point : - if your goal is to raise your total level and eventually max out... train combat through slayer - if your goal is to get a high combat level as fast as possible to play as a high combat character - stay away from slayer (or just unlock magic darts at 55) Talking about low skills : my agility training is called "the circus" and my hunter training is called "tears of guthix" with the occasional impling. I just can't stand training those properly, let's just say I'm glad I get 6k xp per week!

This is true, but it doesn't mean that behaving in the way to max out is a bad idea. Sure, slayer is a combined 100-140k xp per hour and is less than some skills like cooking, thieving and firemaking but it's a lot better than runecrafting and agility. Meaning someone slaying will get more overall levels than someone maxing out combat then going after rc and agility.

nice times... as always. The RL cooking seems nice, might try some of them. I know that for some players, adding macros like cook-x and pray-x cheapens their previous achievements but it's part of the game to evolve periodically. I don't mind getting easier ways to level, I hated training prayer because of the constant clicking. Now I will make full use of the skill and probably aim for 90+ shortly. This is the upgrade year and I enjoy what I see so far.

I agree they should focus on 80+ first but we don't need to have 10k people at 150 mil xp to raise the cap. Anyway, at the rate it is going for a skill like cooking, I expect we'll have at least 100 players at max xp by the end of the summer.

I highly doubt Runescape will be around in 10 years. Even with a 10% yearly decrease in the player base, you will still have around 40-45k players playing at any time in 10 years. There are still a couple hundred old timers playing classic and the game hasn't been upgraded for nearly 5 years. The game might not be at the peak it was when we had lots of macros, gold farmers and pkers, but the player base is definitely of better quality. As for going back on-topic, I'd love to see the cape raised one day once they fill the gap on some skills like herblore (upgraded super sets would be nice), farming (new herbs, fruit trees, bushes...), fishing (something between monks and sharks, requiring a quest with better xp rates than monks and something higher than sharks healing 25), hunter (impling higher than dragon, black chins anyone?), etc... What they could do is raise the cap gradually, like once a month so everyone has the month to fill the gap and be on the same scale as the rest. This would be an incentive to train those skills and not give a huge boost to those who already have the required xp.

Freedom of speech is mainly why I write on these boards, as to surfing the rants forums, some rants are legitimate and have discussion value. This one has, but since there is a lot of opinion involved, chances are that passion will drive people and flaming might follow. Not ignorant kids, just ignorant newbs. Scamming was a plague and unless you were familiar with a good fansite, you had no idea what was true and what was false unless you were experienced. I don't see how some of the anti-scamming features are bad though... don't say trade limits, they were not implemented for that reason. As to the G.E., it would work without a trade limit, but it would not be that effective. People asking for the removal of the trade limits are also asking for the re-appearance of gold farmers and macroers. I will not tolerate another bot-plague Runescape and if this happens, I won't whine about quiting... I'll simply quit.

I just thought a bit about that... Raw fish have been more expensive than their cooked counterparts since cook-X and guthan being stable if I remember correctly.

Most players can do the math, what they sometimes lack is to vision to formulate the equation (determination of all the variables). It's not complex math, but it's also not that basic. I know I'm not playing at the most efficient level (no piety and str pray bonus...) but I choose to slay casually mostly, praying and calling the familiar requires too much attention for my taste.

Great guide, some things I didn't know in there (fire gloves and ring... magic time cut in half if claimed to a leprechaun...). What would be great for your guide : add pictures of where the evil trees spawn on the map. Just on a side note, what I usually do when I receive my reward and get my magic bonus time : teleport to lumbridge and cutting the 4 yews west of the castle.

There has always been autoers in RS. Though I have to point that 2006-2007 was the worst: yew trees, blue and green dragons, sharks... Infested with either bots or gold farmers. PVP is pj...pking was pjing also. Unless you don't have lots of mage bank experience back in the day. PVP is risk and competition, why would you warn someone that you are gonna kill them? RC pkers never asked me before killing me ... As to your comment on scammers, I would love to see you IRL getting ripped off when paying for repairs on your car.

I didn't know dueling and games necklace sold at (1) charge, but I always alched these. Great advice to anyone thinking about using that last charge, you are better off selling of alching.

Your guide seems to be lacking the most profitable potion to make for high level herblorist, weapon poison ++. Here's a small guide to add to yours. Weapon poison ++ requires the following: Coconut milk (use a coconut with a hammer, then a vial with the open coconut) cave nightshade (acquired through farming - maximum of 2 per day or through picking the skavid spawn in a cave near the ogre enclave - will explain the best way to gather these later on) poison berry (bush farming or buy these) Weapon poison ++ sells for around 5k these days and the buyable ingredients can be obtained for roughly 1,3k-1,5k making the cave nightshade an intrinsic value of around 3,5k per spawn. Gathering cave nightshade : 1- log into a crowded world (1500+) 2- start at castle wars with a ring of dueling equiped 3- inventory ---> light source (seer's headband works) skavid map obtain in the watchtower quest , if lost, ask a lvl 83 ogre guard inside the ogre city, you may have to use a death rune on him. Also carry stacking training items (alchs, ammo fletching...) 4- beast of burden can't carry nightshade, have a foraging familiar to boost your profit (fruit bat, magpie...) 5- running from CW to ogre city, enter the first cave you see. If there is someone already there, respectfully hop to another crowded world. If not, pick the spawn and alch of fletch while waiting for the next one (30 seconds spawn on a crowded world... around one minute on a normal sub 1000 world) 6- when full, tele to CW, deposit BoB and nightshades and repeat You can get around 90 nightshades per hour that way which is around 300k profit per hour. Always check the G.E. for prices before doing this activity to judge if it's worth your time. Weapon poison ++ will sell in less than an hour these days. Ohhh one last thing, questers will sometimes appear (they always wear the antifire shield), be courteous and let them get one spawn.

Just wondering... how many tasks in a row?

I hate that minigame, but it is a great achievement. Good job.

This is exactly the way I feel about slayer. It depends a lot on the player's point of view. The core of the debate is that there are faster way to train combat, which is true, but what those faster ways lack is slayer experience. From this, the choice will depend on what the player values more.

I like my homemade t-shirt that says: My other shirt is a rune plate.

*Looks at mages stats* Lol you'll get it easily, it won't come out for another month(if not a lot longer), just use the penguins and tear of Guthix on it and of course Runecraft. But GL Forsaken is F2P mate...no tears and no penguins