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The music icon is changed to a horn too. Odd. Edit. Most of the icons on there are slightly different to the new interface ones. I would guess the ones we have now are the correct ones we are keeping and the signpost type thing is the only one being added/changed when the new feature is eventually released.

Definitely Pack 1 animation update, they only blogged about it recently and the example image they showed looked pretty polished already, along with the leaked weapon icons its a pretty safe bet this one. As for how the fremmies are involved... we shall have to wait and see.

At your level you should be sticking to gold charms.

There are no items which are "guaranteed to rise over the next few years" because noone knows what updates are coming in the next few years. Perhaps new hats will come out which lowers thje demand for party hats. Perhaps really powerful expensive items come out which again diverts attention away from rares. When it comes to cheaper items again it is unknown if any future updates might make them obsolete or unneeded. I disagree with abc1230's statement about being guaranteed to make money with rares. 180 days ago Blue partyhat was about 335m, now its 307m. Who could of predicted such a drop of almost 30m? Dragon bones rose a lot recently probably due to the money coming in from PvP tricking, now this has died down a lot now can we really be sure that they will continue to rise especially as so many lower levels flock to green dragons to sell the bones every day? Your greatest investment would be to keep it as pure cash.

http://lotro.tip.it/ theres one

I'm happy with mine, I see no need to change it. I'm thinking the name change has somehting to do with perhaps having multiple charaters per account on MechScape and the ability to change screenname will be replicated accross to RS too.

It is NOT a usb stick. It is the same SIZE as a usb stick.

What an idiotic statement. The Jagex key would be a financial loss maker.

I think the Times article about the key was very poor indeed. I think most people have already explained the flaws in the argument but i am going to do the same to settle my own mind. [hide=]I've seen many updates in my time where gamers have cried, "Jagex has lost touch!" It didn't take an update for me to say thatit took a news post. Jagex recently announced the "Anti-Hack" device. I will now preface my opinions on this new update by first saying it's comforting to know that Jagex is 1, willing to take a loss to make us safer, and 2, they are in this game for the long-haul. And let it be known that I have the utmost respect for Jagex.[/hide] Agreed. I used to hate these things and found them really inconvinient at first.I respect any organisation to offer such a service which is clearly at loss to them in some way shape or form either the physical cost of the devices or in the development behind it. [hide=]As an IT professional, I am all for security, honestly, I preach it to clients day in and day out; but people are naïve about passwords, and many pick really sad and pathetic passwords. Companies have reacted by requiring multi-faceted authentication for devices, so idiots dont have to think about creating a secure password. Do we need one for RuneScape? Hell no. This is a game that, whether you like it or not, is mostly played by children the ages of 10-18, most of whom go to public schools and who probably encounter other RuneScape players daily. Selling a physical device to kids isnt smart. What's stopping a bully from beating up a child for his RuneScape key and password? Not much. Secondly, does Jagex know where adults play? I play at work. As an adult I play RuneScape because 1, my friends play, and 2, its about all I can sneak on at work because of its Java browser-based design. USB devices are grounds for dismissalno thanks.[/hide]I really wish people wouldn't preach their job titles as if it gives any weight to their argument. Usability expert Jakob Nielsen and security expert Bruce Schneier recently publisghed a whitepaper suggesting the masked passwords should goas it gives a false sense of security. Only a week later they retracted the document and issued a statement saying that they were "probably wrong". I would go as far to say that having such a device accross Jagex games and sites (I presume this would not just be for Runescape) actually educates people on good password and security practice for the future when using similar keys for online banking or checking mortages etc. The bully argument is a straw man. Of course there is nothing stopping a bully from beating up a kid for their key but then there is equal change of someone getting beaten up if they didnt have one for their password. In both cases I think the change of getting beaten up over runescape is between slim and none anyway. Plus they should not be taking their key into school anyway. where does Jagex think most people play... home I would hope. As you say you are a security professional and knowing the dangers of drive by downloads I am shocked to hear you playing Runescape at work. You also confuse actual USB devices with those described by Jagex as the "same size as a usb stick". Other people ans Jagex have already clarified that point though so I wont go into more detail on that. [hide=]Its awfully sweet of Jagex to poll us, but currently 48% of RuneScape players would pay $10 for a low price for a device of this nature, and on the terms that they get more bank space. Sounds like players just want bank space, and bank space Jagex would give us, as they might feel it would make us more secure. I dont know about you, but Id probably drop my least valuable item or use up a material I was hoarding to free up space for a purchase. I dont think the extra 5, 10, 15 or even 50 spaces would increase my net worth to a point to where, if I was hacked, I would be upset about losing those additional items. Why not give it to me now? It's silly Jagex cut costs over the years by pretty much hiding Classic in an obscure corner, limiting it down to one server so few PvP worlds that they have, are full. Yet Jagex is willing to take an illogical, and perhaps massive, loss to the company's bottom line to make us more secure. While noble, and even perhaps honorable, I still don't see it as an effective and worthy venture.[/hide]You are right here when you suggest that people just want bank space. However there are still a lot of people replying to the poll willing to pay ther higher figures with no incentive of bank space. I don't know what level you are in your skills but certainly as you get a higher level it becomes increasingly difficult to store all the items you need in your bank. Dropping items to make space just isnt an option for some people. Bank space generally only comes when a new skill is released due to the extra space requires. The last time we got more bank space was after the release of Summoning. The next skill is scheduled for some times next year so we can probably expect some more space then too. I dont really understand your point about your Runescape classic argument when we know that Jagex are working on making public RSC servers for people to play on in a kind of "cheat mode". The cash costs of these devices which you consider a loss could be made up on less staff time sorting out "hacked" accounts and customer service issues. It it also good PR and perhaps "free advertising" to the industry. You have to look furthar than just the money spent on the devices before considering "loss". [hide=]Jagex has long said they would never charge money for an in-game advantage; if they wanted to sell me a godsword, Id plunk down $50, but bank space? I shouldnt have to buy a type of security for that advantage. While I am not immune to being hacked, I don't think I need an even higher level of security when the restrictive RWT updates have given less incentive for a hacker to hack you; I really don't think I need the same level of protection I use at my job. Which other MMOs offer such wonderful security options? WoW does, and, on top of that, they also have a support line; and, in my view, better customer service. And you know what? Blizzard can restore gold and items, a service that RuneScape is either unable or unwilling to do. I don't see this newest system as viable, unless Jagex decides to step it up and be more like the industry leader in MMO customer service and security, a title that Blizzard holds. Heck, how secure is the RuneScape login anyway? Its not case-sensitive. If I lose my key, Im screwed; and what if I get it damaged? Screwed again. If lost, would I just have to wait on Jagex to ship me a new one, forcing me to wait to play RuneScape? From a firm's point of view, it is increasingly beneficial to buy thin computers without USB drives because of information theft and industrial sabotage; what if my firm does the same? Then I cant play at work. The key is not necessary, thats fine. I wont feel any more secure by spending a small sum of money on this option when I am confident in my security as is, and I doubt Ill even buy the bank space alone.[/hide]I thyink Andrew pretty summed up your argument in his post. Basicly the idea of extra bankspace is no more real world trading than paying for members. WoW may have better support in your opinion but they also rake in 3 to 4 times the money per player per year and have a much larger customer base in the first place. I also dispute that Blizzards ability to restore gold and items is a good thing. This is open to widespread abuse. It is an interesting question you pose about the current security of runescape. I agree with the issue about case sensetivity and I hope this is something implemented in the future. However with keyloggers it really doesnt matter what format your password is. If there is keystroke monitoring software on your computer (malicious or not) then 'Banana' is just as secure as 'dfg@d#rtHfg423'. If the key is lost then I would expect there to be a facility online where the old key is blocked and a new key is sent out (for a fee). This is pretty standard and no basis for argument. You also bring up the usb drive point again. We have already established this is invalid so I will not detail it again. [hide=]If I recall, we were told bank space was limited for technical reasons, so its ironic that, after you make a purchase for security, it can be tossed in as a bonus. Switching servers would take longer, a nightmare for resource gathering if the worlds are crowded, not to mention PvPing. I am all for added security, but to throw on benefits for doing it makes it seem like a bribe. Its almost like Jagex is offering one of the most demanded requests in order to sell a product that the majority of people dont need. But how much bank space are they talking about for $10? 5 spaces, 20, 50, 100, unlimited? How much space is $10 really worth? Id pay $10 for space, Id also buy some godswords off of Jagex if they would sell them, but they wont. It's unfair for me to gain an advantage over other players who dont have the money. Money isnt my issue at all, but Im sure it will affect some. I dont see how offering bank space for people is any more of an advantage to Jagex's profit than selling godswords or GP for cash.[/hide] It isnt really fair to call Jagex up on them saying that bankspace was limited for technical reasons. A recent developer blog about bank end systems shows that perhaps they are woprking to address issues such as this and that maybe bankspace limits is not an issue any more. I dont really see how switching worlds would take longer wiuth the key. I'm afraid I cant find the exact post but i recall hearing that the device basicly unlocks your account for a few hours or works provided you dont close the tab/browser. You would not need to use the key for each and every login attempt and as such the argument about hopping and pvp is moot. As for the amount of bank space, noone knows and i would think that Jagex probably haven't decided this yet either so its not really worth arguing about. I disagree that we are buying bankspace with this, i dont see it as any different to getting more bankspace with p2p. I am however slightly concerned that you would be willing to real world trade for items such as godswords. An interesting article to read but fundamentally flawed in every way.

Look at it this way. You can either: A) Get good exp and no clothing rewards B) Get clothing rewards and less exp I really don't see a problem with that.

Your electric bill must be huge.

Whats to stop the malicious merchants/manipulators from scraping the data from the GE website and producing their own daily charts?

Claw and hook is old http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Crabclaw_hook

What stuff is there for people 70-80 now? Relegated back to the horrible Monkey course :(

Cave goblin course has increased in requirement, shame. I love that course and always preferred to do that than go to the monkey one. Aw well, i'll have to get 4 more levels in agility at some point

I always take excaliber to wfs even with a bunyip, its worth the space used up for what is basicly stackable food. I would imagine that excaliber + void spinners would be somewhat effective.

1. Start at Castle Wars bank. 2. Use Spirit Kyatt to teleport to Piscatoris 3. Teleport to Castle Wars with rings of dueling ...Repeat

1 x blue charm is only worth taking up to level 78 summoning 2 x blue charms gives a maximum of 1566.4 exp so its always best to take the blue charms (for exp) given this scenario even if the alternative is a book of knowledge. However you have to factor in the cost of that exp when making your decision. Making two geyser titans requires 444 shards which would cost 11,100 gp and two water talismans 6,660 gp plus two blank pouches for a total of 17,762 gp for 1566.4 exp. Sometimes people might see the worth in taking the lamp and getting the exp for free. I get 930 exp for a lamp so by taking this I "lose" 636.4 exp but I save myself almost 18k gp. p.s I thought the rewards were supposed to get better the more you complete? I'm still getting the same old stuff (gold charms, few crappy herbs etc) over and over. Perhaps if I got 3 or even 4 blue charms as an option it would sway me away from the lamps more often.

Ah yes someone mentioned Slayer tower... you cant use combat familiars there as it is not multi combat. I much prefer the chaos tunnels for this task.

Don't waste a bunyip, bring a combat familiar and use enhanced excaliber to heal when you need to.

Odd question, not exactly sure what you want to know. If you ONLY used gold charms you would need approx 35,500 charms. Making only Spirit Terrorbirds If you ONLY used green charms you would need approx 17,050 charms. Making Hydras. If you ONLY used crimson charms you would need approx 7,000 charms. Making 3,909 Granite lobsters and then 3,091 of Swamp titans If you ONLY used blues charms you would need approx 3,350 charms. Makeing 989 Fire titans then 2,361 of Lava titans. Obviously you would be aiming for the crimson figure here.

Looks like a mini stargate :D

Edit: stating the obvious. oops.

It's in Rimmington now,

None of us really know how the engine works and how a small change can affect something unrelated. Take the analogy of a car. Mr Bloggs is sat in his car and his headlights are dazzling Mrs Globbs stood on the pavement/sidewalk. A solution to the problem could be to remove the battery from the car. This stops the lights from shining right at Mrs Globbs. However it also stops the car from starting, indicating, doing pretty much anyhting of value other than roll about. Sometimes a quick fix can do more damage than the original problem.