17-Apr-2007 Wilderness Ditch

[Happysniff]

Firstly, you didn't read what he was saying. I will quote him:

 

 

 

"I personally believe that everyone who got lured actually deserved it. If you had any common sense and sense of self protection, you wouldn't fall for those newbish tricks. For second, we just got a rule which makes it a reportable offence. At times like this I seriously don't know how young and gullible players Jagex tries to attract. Low leveled players get a new short quest with horrible rewards and almost no stat reqs almost every week. Now they are adding more things to babysit these players"

 

 

 

And secondly, I have RCed before, and even used the abyss, agility may not be slower, but mining is.

[hohto]

Like I said, 2 seconds is not forever.

 

 

 

And Happysniff is not my account. Happysniff99 is. And I have 80 agility on that. I merely stole the name Happysniff from my brothers friend, devious as I am.

 

 

 

Still 30 rc + 62 mining and you're trying to tell me something about rc and mining. My mining is 10 levels higher than your highest skill and my rc is the same as your highest skill. The point is: How well have you tried rcing before and after this update?

 

 

 

The point is that this update makes it both slower (not much, but still) and a lot more unconvient. I've done rc for countless of hours and I know how much even a small addition like that can make it even more worse.

 

 

 

And if mining is slower than rcing, you've either found out a new secret way to rc (and haven't managed to turn the xp to hiscores) or you are doing something seriously wrong in mining. Atm my mining xp stands at 5,549,363 and I know for a fact it isn't slower than rc.

[onauric]

They should make different servers for people without common sense (ditch) and for people with common sense. :roll: I mean it's okay to do things that will prevent luring and such, but this kind of solution that negatively affects gameplay by making one of the most time taking skill less convenient is just something that cannot be tolerated.

 

 

 

Jagex better remove this very quickly.

[Happysniff]

Like I said, 2 seconds is not forever.

 

 

 

And Happysniff is not my account. Happysniff99 is. And I have 80 agility on that. I merely stole the name Happysniff from my brothers friend, devious as I am.

 

 

 

Still 30 rc + 62 mining and you're trying to tell me something about rc and mining. My mining is 10 levels higher than your highest skill and my rc is the same as your highest skill. The point is: How well have you tried rcing before and after this update?

 

 

 

The point is that this update makes it both slower (not much, but still) and a lot more unconvient. I've done rc for countless of hours and I know how much even a small addition like that can make it even more worse.

 

 

 

And if mining is slower than rcing, you've either found out a new secret way to rc (and haven't managed to turn the xp to hiscores) or you are doing something seriously wrong in mining. Atm my mining xp stands at 5,549,363 and I know for a fact it isn't slower than rc.

 

 

 

Ok I will see it from your point of view.

 

 

 

Every RC run now has an additional 2 seconds. I can see how this will affect you in the long run. I am just going to say the average run is 20 seconds (I know it is far more then that, I'm just using an example) Every 10 runs you could've had an extra run.

 

 

 

Ok, I see now you have proven your point.

[mr_emflum]

Wednsday April 25th -

 

 

 

We have updated the wilderness so that in combat; both players must accept the attack. We have also Removed teleblock, and reduced ice barrage's freeze time to 1 second.

 

 

 

In other news, The dragon dagger has been removed from the game, and the combat levels of all monsters have been dropped 30 combat levels.

 

 

 

We have also added 56 more ditches, one for every level of the wilderness, please be aware, there are now 3 confirmation screens before you may jump the ditch.

 

 

 

Happy scaping!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Due to recent issues, multi-combat areas have been removed, and clans are now a violation of rule 15

 

 

 

 

 

LOL!!!

[happybappy]

Luring pwned

[Raven6666]

If this hasn't been said before, a lot more pkers will use any way they can to achieve a kill, expect a lot more people God-spelling with Teleblock and Entangle.

 

 

 

This is the second update this month which is totally horrendous for gameplay and navigation!

[Mordendravid]

1. You have still not justified calling him elitist, but I'm sure Hohto can argue his own corner.

 

2. Mining is NOT slower than runecrafting. It doesn't matter how many times you try and say that it is, you'll still be wrong each time.

[JoeDaStudd]

I can understand Jagexs reasons for the update ...

 

But why not put in only on the F2P worlds?

 

Most of the scams in RuneScape happen on F2P worlds (Don't believe me? Trying buying anything popular in bulk on a F2P world.) as they are a lot more new player on F2P then there ever will be on P2P.

 

That way P2P player get to carry on RCing, and the new (or stupid) F2P players are safe from the lurer's.

[King_Peter18]

One second causing you to lose hours of your time. Gee, you do know this is an MMORPG right? MMORPGs are not meant to make things easy at all. What do you think Runescape is huh? MMORPGLame? If one click can make you say "AAAAAAHHH ITS TOO HARD!!!" You need to rediscover what an MMORPG is. Also, you say stop making it easy for the newbs. They make it easy for you don't they? Pest control, and etc. Then they make it harder for you, and you complain about it.

 

 

 

I have to laugh at all the bull [cabbage] stories I see on the Runescape forums. I got one step away from the ditch and he dds spec'd me. But wait! You weren't even in the wilderness! So how did he do that?

 

 

 

If one click makes you this angry, get some help. MMORPGs are not meant to be easy. If they were, no one would play them. You complain about making things easy for the newbs, then when they make something hard for you, you complain about them making it easier for newbs. Hypocrites. Hypocrites. Hypocrites.

[Freesia]

I can understand Jagexs reasons for the update ...

 

But why not put in only on the F2P worlds?

 

Most of the scams in RuneScape happen on F2P worlds (Don't believe me? Trying buying anything popular in bulk on a F2P world.) as they are a lot more new player on F2P then there ever will be on P2P.

 

That way P2P player get to carry on RCing, and the new (or stupid) F2P players are safe from the lurer's.

I still believe there are equal amount of lures in both f2p and p2p, and luring is definitely more profitable in p2p. They should not even change the update, Ditching the ditch would be a better idea.

[Mordendravid]

One second causing you to lose hours of your time. Gee, you do know this is an MMORPG right? MMORPGs are not meant to make things easy at all. What do you think Runescape is huh? MMORPGLame? If one click can make you say "AAAAAAHHH ITS TOO HARD!!!" You need to rediscover what an MMORPG is. Also, you say stop making it easy for the newbs. They make it easy for you don't they? Pest control, and etc. Then they make it harder for you, and you complain about it.

 

 

 

I have to laugh at all the bull [cabbage] stories I see on the Runescape forums. I got one step away from the ditch and he dds spec'd me. But wait! You weren't even in the wilderness! So how did he do that?

 

 

 

If one click makes you this angry, get some help. MMORPGs are not meant to be easy. If they were, no one would play them. You complain about making things easy for the newbs, then when they make something hard for you, you complain about them making it easier for newbs. Hypocrites. Hypocrites. Hypocrites.

 

 

 

All this coming from someone who retired without amassing more than 800k xp in a single skill.....

 

 

 

The point that people are making here is that runecrafting IS hard, using the abyss to runecraft is arguably the slowest skill in the game already and in order to "protect" the incurably stupid who failed to notice a massive great sign, Jagex have slowed it down even further.

[hohto]

I still believe there are equal amount of lures in both f2p and p2p, and luring is definitely more profitable in p2p. They should not even change the update, Ditching the ditch would be a better idea.

 

 

 

F2p was the bigger problem if we look at the amount of tried lures and succesful lures. P2p has the big loots, but that's it. The addition to rules reduced p2p lures even more as those lvl 70s didn't want to risk their 5$/month for a set of runite.

[Soma2035]

I'm sorry, but I can hardly see ONE click and HALF a second lost per trip being enough to discourage RCers. I just got 70 RC making 16k death runes without runners. And just now I tried out the ditch and it doesn't take that much effort or time.

[Myweponsg00d]

Oh no! The game was made more difficult?! :ohnoes: Somebody call the police!

 

 

 

Here are my opinions...

 

1. "OMG now I will die easier!!" Clicking anywhere across the ditch will take you right next to the ditch, which is a non-wildy zone. There is a possibility that the ditch COULD mess up your running, but the last time I checked the wilderness is a dangerous area. The fact that it now might be more dangerous does not bother me.

 

 

 

2. "OMG runecrafting is harder!!" Whats that you say? It is now harder to do the skill that makes the best skill-cash in the game? Runecrafting at the abyss basically makes you a bare MINIMUM of 200k per hour; I've made up to 400k+ per hour there. Name another SKILL (non-combat) that you can do this with. If anything, the ditch gives us a step in the right direction in balancing the skills (as far as money-making goes, not exp per hour).

 

 

 

3. "OMG Jagex is catering to stupid people!!!" Really? Maybe the stupid person is the one who has trouble hopping over a 10 centimeter ditch.

[King_Peter18]

All this coming from someone who retired without amassing more than 800k xp in a single skill.....

 

 

 

The point that people are making here is that runecrafting IS hard, using the abyss to runecraft is arguably the slowest skill in the game already and in order to "protect" the incurably stupid who failed to notice a massive great sign, Jagex have slowed it down even further.

 

 

 

I quit because they are making things way to easy. Ooh you accuse my credibility because I don't have high stats, you don't think I've mass rune crafted with the abyss before? Gee, what a total bottomless accusation.

 

 

 

 

 

Your post only further proves my point. All I see are players saying stop making things easier for newbies, and when they make something harder for you, you rant about it. I've RC'd in the abyss, this update wouldn't have made a difference in the time I use.

 

 

 

arguably the slowest skill in the game

 

 

 

So your telling me Farming isn't slow?

 

 

 

In order to "protect" the incurably stupid who failed to notice a massive great sign, Jagex have slowed it down even further.

 

 

 

If the sign was so massive, they would have seen it. They did it to stop the teleport bug. Where you can be dragged into level 5 wilderness without the sign popping up.

 

 

 

Thank you very much, but I believe they just fixed a bug. They are trying to improve the community. At least be grateful for that.

 

 

 

Your only ranting about this because you care about how long it takes you to get your gold. If you are ranting about how much longer it would take to train the skill, have a good step back and discover what an MMORPG is please.

[swordwindtrtrtrt]

Excellent, an entire update for the remedials. The sort of thing that players who are unable to answer Niles' questions have been crying out for. For the rest of us however it's just an unnecessary obstacle designed to irritate. Happy Days.

Lol you just owned half of the population of RS! \

[swordwindtrtrtrt]

 

arguably the slowest skill in the game

 

 

 

So your telling me Farming isn't slow?

 

 

 

He said arguably :roll:

[hohto]

So your telling me Farming isn't slow?

 

 

 

In no other skill you can get so much xp by playing so short periods. In 20mins/day you can get over 250k xp. It's slow if you think it the same way as other skills. For my 8m (ok 40k short) farming xp I've spend less time on working that skill for example I've done with my 2m rc xp.

[runescapeloser22]

Think about it, if we got a small update this week, we will probably get a bigger than usual one next week.

 

 

 

Yeah the "Finally this month, we will be bringing you a large jewellery update" Update \

 

 

 

But I think its the trade routes between Keldagrim and Dorgesh-Kaan first :-$

 

 

 

This slowers down the slowest skill in whole game

 

What Herblore? :lol:

 

Small joke no need to reply

 

Oh god, they better come out with the jewelery update -.-

[mikehild]

While it may be annoying, I can definitely live with it.

 

 

 

What I can't stand is that logging off no longer gets rid of a teleblock. Hopefully it is just a temporary glitch.

[King_Peter18]

So your telling me Farming isn't slow?

 

 

 

In no other skill you can get so much xp by playing so short periods. In 20mins/day you can get over 250k xp. It's slow if you think it the same way as other skills. For my 8m (ok 40k short) farming xp I've spend less time on working that skill for example I've done with my 2m rc xp.

 

 

 

I get what you mean. Thank you for correcting me.

 

 

 

Continue with all this crap about the skill now being so uber hard. Thats what is supposed to be in an MMORPG. Hard stuff. Really hard stuff, go ahead on and rant about this. I don't care anymore lol. Not my problem anymore. =p

[KingKnight1]

How long does teleblock last anyways?

 

 

 

I guess this ditch is a disadvantage to Abyss users, but I... just don't seem to care about 2 seconds. Sure, that guy said if it took 20 seconds, then in 10 runs you could've done 11, but its really more like... more along the lines of, oh say 2 minutes (Never used the Abyss, but bear with me here. Its possibly more or less?). In 60 runs, you could've done 61, not a big difference there. But if it were 20 seconds, then it would be a big disadvantage.

[JoeDaStudd]

What I can't stand is that logging off no longer gets rid of a teleblock. Hopefully it is just a temporary glitch.

 

Please say it a glitch, please.

 

 

 

If not that's me of nat crafting forever.

[Bauke]

How long does teleblock last anyways?

 

 

 

I guess this ditch is a disadvantage to Abyss users, but I... just don't seem to care about 2 seconds. Sure, that guy said if it took 20 seconds, then in 10 runs you could've done 11, but its really more like... more along the lines of, oh say 2 minutes (Never used the Abyss, but bear with me here. Its possibly more or less?). In 60 runs, you could've done 61, not a big difference there. But if it were 20 seconds, then it would be a big disadvantage.

 

 

 

Once again, it's NOT because of the extra seconds. I don't care that much for the extra time, allthough making RC slower than it already is, is quite stupid. The problem is that the ditch creates another major annoyance in Abyss crafting, which is very, very distracting and slowing down crafting a lot.