Tip.It Times Presents: Are They Only Pixels?

[Aresgodowar]

YA, you are totally right, it's not the item that you really care about when

 

losing it it's the time and effort you have put into getting it...that's so true!

 

 

 

When you kids get a job, you'll have to face reality, eye to eye.

 

No job = No money = No food on your table!

 

 

 

Money doesn't grow on trees neither does it in RS.

 

 

 

I'm a "kid" with a job and I really don't have any sympathy for people that lose items to scammers or lurers or something else. Well, I kind of take that back. I guess I have some sympathy for them but in all reality for someone to lose and item in such down right dumb ways such as getting an item switched in a trade screen. It kind of annoys me when people complain about losing items to scammers when it is mostly there fault, when what they really should be doing is working to get their money and/or items back. Face it, complaining about being scammed is not going to do anything. You won't get your items back, you won't really get much sympathy and you're probably going to get flamed, even if you don't deserve it. So, at the end of the day they are just pixels. After all, after you get scammed, you are just a person with less pixels than they had at the beginning of the day. And you lost all that hard work and time you say? Well if those pixels were so precious to you, you probably should have done a little more to protect them.

 

 

 

Money doesn't grow on trees in RuneScape, but it does spawn all over the ground, so close enough.

 

 

 

 

 

Dude you should send an article about working to gain what was lost. You are completly right.I have a story to share.Once when furreis where 5m, i bought one, and i started to trade mine for gems and sell gems for higher.Then they said they were coming out with braclets.So they day before the update, the gem price had risen to 5.5m.So i bought one. As so as i got up, i got on crafted i went to sell on forums, and bam they where selling for 3.5m lower.I though no big deal the price will rise.So i kept mine for a while, and i mean a while.I waited till the achevment diaries, and then the price completly droped.I got a d wc axe , and 200k.Now worth 2.6m altogether.I sold the d wc 2.8 , so i came off with 3m.I lost 2.5m. I felt horrible. I was so mad a jagex for the horrible bracelets. I mean comon give em some stats.Well thats my story.W8 ?wtf , that doesnt relate to what peffer said? Well ill tell yah what happened.The next day I just went to world two.I started with a set of guthix dh and in two hours i hade 4m.Then i merchanted another 3 hours.I came to a grand total of 7.9m.I had just made 3 times as much as i had lost.Then i sold some items here and there and bought a guthan set.So now i have a net worht of about 12m almost d chain time.Sinse then i have made 15m merchanting, which i spent on items, most on skills(85 fletching) \ and on runes.Then i spent a grand woppin total of 11m on a cannon,10 c bows,about 5 full loads of pots for jad(no cape yet =( ),alot of cannon balls, addy,mith, bolts.And right now i am currently killing black drags for a visage.Now i know this sounds like my life story but what im sayin is that you dont need to be in tears crying, i once died in wild and lost an addy plate and was in tears, but thats another story.

 

 

 

100k to a lev 23 is the same as 30m to a lev 126.If you lose it work to gain it back.

[Lenticular_J]

yay, i agree completly with this article :D

 

 

 

imo, it take some people, lets say, 1 hour to make 200k. and in real life, it takes 1 hour to make $7. then to them, 200k gp is worth $7, so if they lost their santa, it would be like losing $700.

 

 

 

so yea... it isnt just pixels, its time spent in game (and money spent on members in some cases).

 

Wow, that is a fantastic comparison....Theory of Runescapivity, much?

 

But, on topic, this was one of the best articles we've had so far :)

[S_M_JaGeD]

well, i didnt like this article much, taking into account it took way more than others had, it was a rather poor article :S

[Bobbington]

Round of applause! =D>

 

 

 

Well written and developed, you have explained exactly how I have tried to explain it in the past, but so that peopel understand it :P

 

 

 

 

 

Good show old chap!

[PastyGangsta]

YA, you are totally right, it's not the item that you really care about when

 

losing it it's the time and effort you have put into getting it...that's so true!

 

 

 

When you kids get a job, you'll have to face reality, eye to eye.

 

No job = No money = No food on your table!

 

 

 

Money doesn't grow on trees neither does it in RS.

 

 

 

Money grows on trees if your a WC bot... :D

 

 

 

Anyway...

 

 

 

They arent just pixels because they have absorbed your time and effort... they are now moderatley (sp?) important to you. If they disappear then all your work goes down the toilet, which is why I usually simpathize with the distraught player. But if they are mad because they are banned for autoing... they dont deserve my sypmathy because frankly... I dont give a [cabbage]!!

[ChickyBee32]

There's only one difference between the effort we put into RS and the effort we put into our jobs - one we do for fun. In fact, logic would suggest we should be more depressed over losing an item in RS than we should in real-life, since we actually wanted to work for that item, rather than being forced to to get through life.

 

 

 

Why work the job you hate, when the job you seek is right around the corner?

 

 

 

What I mean is you shouldnt work just to be working, you should find a job that intrests you.Now Im not telling you to drop the job you have(if you dislike it)but rather look for your calling.This doesnt mean a actually job, it could be a job/hobby that you love to do.Work can be fun, if you put in the effort.

 

 

 

 

 

Great article.

 

 

 

I know I shouldn't bite, but sometimes it's just not that easy. If I need to earn a certain amount a week to pay the bills, keep a roof over my head and food on the table, I'm not going to take the job that I love but pays less over the job I hate but pays more.

 

 

 

 

 

Over all though, very good article. My personal feeling is, I worked hard for my pixels so I do everything I can to protect them. I've lost a couple of things through stupidity and one thing through no fault of mine. I tell ya, losing my d'head axe, then getting the white screen of death annoyed me more than anything else in the game has.

[yomom1919]

Thanks for making this, I was getting tired of explaining the obvious :P.

[yanksrule]

well i agreed with the entire article except that in amewica you can get a yob at 14. at least in new york im not sure if the labor laws are different in other states. now i think that you can buy something you still value in relevance to what you were talking about but dont say that we still cant make money. we (as in behalf of the people 18 and under) still can buy something that we value and if it were to be stolen/scammed/counterfeit then we would be mad.

 

 

 

lets say we go to a circuit city and i buy a brand new xbox 360. i pay 400 dollars for it. i then go home and find that when i play games on it it scratches the disk to the point where the game wont play. now some one would say to me if i told this story to them well you should have bought the wii or you should have saved that money for something else or how about well live with it the earth is still spinning. now thats basically like some one saying oh i got scammed out of my almost soon to be first whip. now as you said people would say its just mega pixels but you still had an emotional attachment because when you use that whip you think of all you had to do to get it. i think of that when i were to play my xbox 360.

 

 

 

my argument is don't think that people 18 and under still dont have a value upon something. we can still use our money towards something and then have some unfortunate event happen to where we're not satisfied with the final result of our product. you could save up for years and when you come up with the aforementioned result you get the same feeling as when you got scammed out of a whip.

 

 

 

 

 

i myself am 14 years old and i received approx. 600 dollars in a year from saving up all my money. i had this unfortunate xbox ordeal happen to me and Microsoft blamed it on me. go figure

 

 

 

certain spelling mistakes were made on purpose :mrgreen:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"It's just pixels" is such a hypocritical phrase. Sure it truly is, but it's also much more than that. People put work hard on their accounts and it hurts when you lose something relatively valuable.

 

 

 

I'd like to see all the people that use this phrase lose their accounts that they worked hard on, and come out saying "It's just pixels".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

in fact it is hypocritical because they're playing a game with pixels and they're putting value in they have. its when that person loses something do they really know what went down. its basically a circle. i complained once i got scammed out of a whip (lured i was memb. for about 4 months didnt know what it was) so i kinda kicked myself for a few days. but then i focused onto getting another 2m and bought another within 2 weeks. (wips were 2.6m back then and i got lured out of 2m :oops: )

[Cabbage_Boii]

aww lost 300 dollas sorry :( nice article a good read and a REALY good point, i hate loosing my pixels :cry:

[bloodybart]

i think this is completely true, many ppl who have been saving up for something won't really care what the item is (in most cases) or how they look like, theyr just want to show to the world "look! i worked my [wagon] off the last weeks! now it has payed out!!"

 

i don't think it matters how a party hat looks like, i think it looks completely stupid. let's face it: would anyone of you wear one of those IRL? theyr worthless. u wear it like 1 day on a birthday or a wedding, but then you trow it away. don't think anyone would do that with something some like to call "its just pixels"?

[Ghost-Knigth]

Decent article. True non-theless. It is "only pixels". Of course they are. But because we spend so much time on them we feel satisfied with them because now they are our hard earned proberty (at least I hope so -stupid hackers, scammers and macroers) Then losing it feels just like losing something in real life. They are equally hard earned. Sure the thing is a pixel, but it's yours.

[smithforak0]

I'm a "kid" with a job and I really don't have any sympathy for people that lose items to scammers or lurers or something else. Well, I kind of take that back. I guess I have some sympathy for them but in all reality for someone to lose and item in such down right dumb ways such as getting an item switched in a trade screen. It kind of annoys me when people complain about losing items to scammers when it is mostly there fault, when what they really should be doing is working to get their money and/or items back. Face it, complaining about being scammed is not going to do anything. You won't get your items back, you won't really get much sympathy and you're probably going to get flamed, even if you don't deserve it. So, at the end of the day they are just pixels. After all, after you get scammed, you are just a person with less pixels than they had at the beginning of the day. And you lost all that hard work and time you say? Well if those pixels were so precious to you, you probably should have done a little more to protect them.

 

 

 

Peiffer, You should submit an article that contains the other side of the argument. I don't neccesarily agree with it, but i think people should get both sides of this touchy subject.

[silver24-7]

I completely agree with the article, and no one has ever heard me say "It's just pixels" Because every pixel in RS represents a value irl in time (more then effort lol) but still, it represents a certain amount of time put into RS.

 

 

 

But the one thing I don't agree with on the article is it's last phrase:

 

I mean, come on! They did take the time to type out a post and hit submit.

 

 

 

Either that's sarcasm, or the guest editor hasn't visited the RS forums very much, I do have sympathy for people losing their items like he said before, but most of the people that "take time to to type and hit submit" take very little time to do so and end their posts asking for money or items, which would make us lose time invested in RS... That's not really what I wanted to say though, what I mean mostly is that many of them hardly take any time to type a nice post and hit submit, but instead just type 3 phrases including what they lost and what they would like to receive.

[Lee_Turrell]

YA, you are totally right, it's not the item that you really care about when

 

losing it it's the time and effort you have put into getting it...that's so true!

 

 

 

When you kids get a job, you'll have to face reality, eye to eye.

 

No job = No money = No food on your table!

 

 

 

Money doesn't grow on trees neither does it in RS.

 

 

 

For gold farmers money does literally grow on pixellated trees :-k

 

 

 

But yeah, was a good read

[The_Bacon_Man]

One of the best reads I've read during my stay at Tip.It. Keep up the good work!

[lorddayu]

I completely agree with the points stated in the article, I also think that most people who flame and say things like 'they're just pixels, get over it' don't really believe that themselves, they just say it to sound like they don't care much about this game, when in truth if they lost something that was worth a lot of gold like their santa or party hat, it would hit them just as hard.

[Ezz]

I 100% agree with this article =D>

 

 

 

I also thought of something related to this once. People use as an argument that a game is just pixels that builds up the gaming world, why don't they then say that the real world is built up by atoms? Real life is exactly like a game but more realistic except you aren't 'escaping into real life' from something else. And as you said everything takes time there too.

[lavirylime]

There is something called a work permit for people wanting work under 18.

[Rebdragon]

Hrm I miss Kiara, she would never use her power to get an article she wrote in the Times if it was under the quality standards.

I don't think that this one was below standard, and I think it was something that needed to be said. More times then not I hear the phrase she's talking about and no one disagrees with it.

 

I'm going to have to agree with rah on this one. This article was pretty poorly written, and it seemed like the effort put into it... well, there was none. The subject is pretty simple and useless as well; anyone with at least the logic of a three year old knows that it takes time to get certain items in Runescape, and that "it's just pixels" is a load of crap. Honestly, was there really no other subject to talk about?

 

 

 

As a whole, this article is just full of self-evident redundancy compiled by the limited vocabulary of a preteen.

[xpeimingx]

I disagree.

 

 

 

The time and energy spent into RS is wasted. One could be volunteering for the community, or participating in a sport instead of clicking on trees or rocks. Although it is true that items in RS represent time and energy, the work spent into the process of obtaining the item is still relative to the nature of the said items. There is nothing useful that a Santa hat or a party hat can do beyond impressing friends or other players, or furthering the owner's prospects in being more successful in the game. Therefore, the relative magnitude of the work put into RS items is much less than work done on something useful and progressive in half its time.

 

 

 

I would not give much sympathy to people who express sadness over a lost item in RS. However, I would sympathize with anyones loss in the material world.

 

 

 

So, will you scrutinize or dismiss my dissent? I hope opposing viewpoints are welcome hereÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâæ

[snake6man]

Saying "Its just pixels" in rs is just like saying "its just paper" in real life.

[Unleasher10]

The time and energy spent into RS is wasted. One could be volunteering for the community, or participating in a sport instead of clicking on trees or rocks. Although it is true that items in RS represent time and energy, the work spent into the process of obtaining the item is still relative to the nature of the said items. There is nothing useful that a Santa hat or a party hat can do beyond impressing friends or other players, or furthering the owner's prospects in being more successful in the game. Therefore, the relative magnitude of the work put into RS items is much less than work done on something useful and progressive in half its time.

 

True, but aren't all achievements in-game and out useless in the end? After all, we're all going to die one day. If you're religious you might say that spiritual achievements aren't useless, but nobody can take that away so that isn't relevant.

 

On another note though, I think Misplacedme had to put this article together in one day because the Editor didn't make one and didn't have much time to think of a subject, which is why it seems to discuss a similiar topic to the other Tip.it Times article 'Pixels'.

[Suiku]

Excellent article, I had always thought the same. I don't know when did I exactly put my sig quote, but I had it for some time and summarizes perfectly the feelings of that article, I hope more people could quote this guy too :P (or some quote of your article!).

[xpeimingx]

True, but aren't all achievements in-game and out useless in the end? After all, we're all going to die one day.

 

 

 

That's a horrible thing to say. People have given much more than sitting in front of a computer, clicking on things (if that can count as work at all) towards "out-game" achievements! Where was the computer you are using manufactured? In a semi-conductor plant - through techniques refined by decades of research and experimentation. Through what method does your computer screen display this post? Why, through a cathod ray tube oscilloscope, invented by German phycisist Karl Braun in 1997 - after decades of research with semi-conductors at the University of Berlin. And why we conversing in German now? Why aren't our neigbores being persecuted for speaking out against the government? Because, thousand's gave the ultimate sacrifice to furthur the cause of freedom against the facist Hitler in World War II.

 

 

 

Achievements made in-game cannot be compared to those made in the real world.

 

 

 

I think I have not much more to say; I think I have thouroughly expressed my feelings. Well, you have the right of reply; I will answer any relevant questions...

 

 

 

So, will you scrutinize or dismiss my dissent? I hope opposing viewpoints are welcome hereÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâæ

 

 

 

Edit: grammar mistakes fixed.

[Randox]

I do hope people see the truth in that. One of my favoriter articles so far!