Celestrana Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Old PC, new PC, it's all the same to me since I don't play it anyways. :| The update is considered game balancing, or at least that's what it should be called. The people who complain/riot/protest are those who are not willing to adapt to change, which is a normal reaction that people exhibit when something familiar is suddenly different. I also think it's rather pathetic that some F2P players would sign up for one month of membership purely on the pretense of training their character at PC (the old one) just so they can churn out a "1337 PKer" that they can use in F2P worlds when their membership runs out. I agree with the view of the RSCers in that people should use the "traditional" combat training method of grinding hordes of monsters. That was how ye ol' dungeon crawlers worked and I definitely found that method of training more fulfilling than repetitively playing a mini-game. Occassionally, a Gelatinous Cube would spew out the body of a long dead adventurer and I get my hands on a few useful vials of Potion of Fire Breath. I miss those days. Knowledge is Power; a Tip.it guide answers many commonly asked questions.~Celestrana: Making of a Hero ~ (Visit my blog, today!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobjoe Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Any tip.iters who participated in this riot should be ashamed. That is no way to act when you are mad, I am especially displeased that this went on it tip.it's homeworld, giving tip.it a bad name. There's a handy forum called the rants board where you can riot all you want. Jagex will listen to you in the rants board, NOT when you riot. No one should be complaining if they got muted. EDIT: If I saw zezima I would personally thank him for settling that riot, that was very kind of him. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_matthews Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 I think the new PC is good. I was a member before the update, but there were credit card issues. I played PC before. It was fun, but all the pures are whining, just because of some update. I hate pures, because everytime something goes bad for them, they complain, and whine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavirylime Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 urrrmmm... being a stalinist (it's communism backed by the belief u work or die) here... does that make me totalitarian? sorry, not a genius at this Then you should be hitting history textbooks and not the forums ;) You could describe Stalin's regime with many words. 'Communism' is not one of them... Very true. I am a tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWilch Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 i wonder if any of them have cancelled there memberships yet, jagex might have to shut down runescape :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenin64 Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 You could describe Stalin's regime with many words. 'Communism' is not one of them... Indeed, but because of what Lenin had idealized (sp?), which was supposed to be real Communism, ignorant people just lump Stalinism together with Communism. So while I'm actually a Stalinist, I say I'm Communist for the people don;t know the difference. OT: Rioting is pathetic and doesn;t get anything done. And why do the pures hate the new update so much? All it seems is level classification, is it because of their lower cb level they get less points? Command the Murderous Chalices! Drink ye harpooners! drink and swear, ye men that man the deathful whaleboat's bow- Death to Moby Dick!BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 i wonder if any of them have cancelled there memberships yet, jagex might have to shut down runescape :lol: Most of them are lying, and Jagex already realizes that, so maybe thats why they aren't doing anything? The Complete MTA Handbook | Runecrafting Pouch Analysis | Mobilizing Armies Locator Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 You could describe Stalin's regime with many words. 'Communism' is not one of them... Indeed, but because of what Lenin had idealized (sp?), which was supposed to be real Communism, ignorant people just lump Stalinism together with Communism. So while I'm actually a Stalinist, I say I'm Communist for the people don;t know the difference. OT: Rioting is pathetic and doesn;t get anything done. And why do the pures hate the new update so much? All it seems is level classification, is it because of their lower cb level they get less points? I'm not so sure about that statement. Lenin twisted Marxism to fit within the context of his own time. Communism in its purest form is a country with no state, as the country has been through a Socialist Revolution and the class borders have been smashed as the Proletariat takes more power over its class enemy, the Borgeoisie. Russia had a state, so I don't regard the Leninist state as Communism either. Having said that, there is no doubt Lenin was a Marxist - he just knew what needed to be done, and this meant twisting Marxism into his own form. Personally, I'm actually with Trotsky myself. Either way, Stalin wasn't a Marxist, and was most certainly not a Communist. He was purely evil. Nothing more. The ignorance towards Communism comes from the Cold War. The Americans never liked the term "Communism" from the word 'go'. It would have been very beneficial for them to label Stalin as 'Communist' - they could kill two birds with one stone. Unfortunetely (for them at least), what they didn't realise is that you can't kill an ideology. In fact, if you try, you actually fuel a resistance for that ideology. How topical when you look at today's situation in the Middle-East. :roll: Anyways, I'm going WILDY off topic lol. They never got what they wanted in today's update, and from what I see, the protests are slowly dying down as people start to realise the vainness of their actions. It was very wise of Jagex to ignore the protests, and to not respond. Clearly, the Gowers are learning how to deal with situations like this... I like it. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3nic Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 It's sad that people are creating these huge riots on an online game. Just because they can't get their own way they have to cry... All the pures did fine without pest control before. I hope this change will learn them to train the proper way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenin64 Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 You could describe Stalin's regime with many words. 'Communism' is not one of them... Indeed, but because of what Lenin had idealized (sp?), which was supposed to be real Communism, ignorant people just lump Stalinism together with Communism. So while I'm actually a Stalinist, I say I'm Communist for the people don;t know the difference. OT: Rioting is pathetic and doesn;t get anything done. And why do the pures hate the new update so much? All it seems is level classification, is it because of their lower cb level they get less points? I'm not so sure about that statement. Lenin twisted Marxism to fit within the context of his own time. Communism in its purest form is a country with no state, as the country has been through a Socialist Revolution and the class borders have been smashed as the Proletariat takes more power over its class enemy, the Borgeoisie. Russia had a state, so I don't regard the Leninist state as Communism either. Having said that, there is no doubt Lenin was a Marxist - he just knew what needed to be done, and this meant twisting Marxism into his own form. Personally, I'm actually with Trotsky myself. Either way, Stalin wasn't a Marxist, and was most certainly not a Communist. He was purely evil. Nothing more. The ignorance towards Communism comes from the Cold War. The Americans never liked the term "Communism" from the word 'go'. It would have been very beneficial for them to label Stalin as 'Communist' - they could kill two birds with one stone. Unfortunetely (for them at least), what they didn't realise is that you can't kill an ideology. In fact, if you try, you actually fuel a resistance for that ideology. How topical when you look at today's situation in the Middle-East. :roll: Anyways, I'm going WILDY off topic lol. They never got what they wanted in today's update, and from what I see, the protests are slowly dying down as people start to realise the vainness of their actions. It was very wise of Jagex to ignore the protests, and to not respond. Clearly, the Gowers are learning how to deal with situations like this... I like it. And thus, I have twisted another thread into a discusiion of Communism and the idealogies that people believe it to be. Another point for me! Command the Murderous Chalices! Drink ye harpooners! drink and swear, ye men that man the deathful whaleboat's bow- Death to Moby Dick!BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest baronmaster Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 omg, pures need to get over themselves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrr Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Are you communist? There is a big difference between being a communist and being a totalitarian. Those who are truly the former are nowhere close to being the latter. Get your polisci straight. And lol'd at the crying noobs. PC spoiled them too much. It's about time Jagex made the update. Do I need sarcasm tags, anyone? me and kashi are running for president in '08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00 Quanta Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 see y I quit? garbage community..... at least now u know how many lazy noobs there are that just stand there and do nothing at PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Lmao way a go zezima! people always call him a noob but when they see him they freak out :XD: exactly, it's quite sad really. when he's not around they try to be cool and hate him, when he's around they scream like little girls. Hehe, that's the first time I saw him, and he actually talked to me :P This was before I even knew he was top though, hehe. We still run into each other every now and then, have tea, etc... catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjrox32 Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 These people need to go outside....the riot has been going on for over a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screechingmu Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Rioting seems to have become the norm now for people who think the updates are bad. I guess the Rants forums are not enough for them. Maybe make rioting against the rules, Try to riot against that update!!!! :) My Guide to Killing Green Dragon Autoers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakka102 Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 I'll bet you every single one of the people complaining was a pure/low level :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_drunk_dude Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Good job giving publicity with this thread. Ignore them, they want attention for their 'cause', stop giving to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flash Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 i agree with the drunk dude......sorry i just had to say it :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Does it really matter if we give them publicity? Most of them are leaving due to the futility of their protests anyway, And either way, Jagex isn't gonna give them what they want. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 I'll bet you every single one of the people complaining was a pure/low level :P Actually no...I saw some 90+ up in there even a 122 :shock: I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 I'll bet you every single one of the people complaining was a pure/low level :P Actually no...I saw some 90+ up in there even a 122 :shock: ... mains complaining about their pures? :| | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markup Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 This shold now be in the debate section, and is involving religious arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobby4 Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 I'll bet you every single one of the people complaining was a pure/low level :P Actually no...I saw some 90+ up in there even a 122 :shock: ... mains complaining about their pures? :| More likely mains complaining about themselves. *thinks of Heart Unit and Affliction O:) * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hybrid2hell Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 Oh no! Now the pures have to train just like everyone else! Also, i love the lone person in there saying "New PC ftw!" I engineered this thread with precise variables that I know would cause lul-worthy flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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