Your Views on PK Terms?

[Ghost-Knigth]

1) Of course I "safeeat". Does people expect you not to eat and just die? There is no such thing as safeeating in my opinion. People should just continue the fight and see who runs out of food first.

 

 

 

2) Farcasting; meleers have a huge advantage in their weapon and it's not expensive for them to fight (no runes and no arrows/bolts lost). Therefore rangers and mages have the opportunity to attack people from a distance - and why should they use this?

 

 

 

3) I never pray while fighting 1 vs 1. I find it stupid and non-nescessary.

[Mayjest]

whats even funnier is how people who say wildy anything goes, im 100% sure they never get any real loot.

 

which has me thinking why do the real pkers stop people from doing what gives them worse loot.

 

 

 

 

 

you protect from melee you dont smite, ty for being defensive instead of offensive so i keep my whip.

 

 

 

you safe while im at 10hp, then i suddenly hit high and pk your whip with my smite on, thanks for being defensive again, im sure you pk everyone.

 

 

 

farcast then when the effect wears off you get specced 40-40 in your mystic robes with range pray on.

 

 

 

Those of us who like the 'anything goes' part of the wilderness are generally the ones not there to kill other players. If I'm being attacked by a player, then I WILL be running south with whatever protect prayer is necessary. I will log out as soon as I'm able. I will teleport if I can.

 

 

 

We're normally not wearing full combat gear. Staying defensive will keep us alive.

[Kiriyama]

1. What is safing to you? Do you think it is good or bad? Do you consider it to be regular eating, and is it smart to do it?

 

 

 

Safing to me is when you hit 6 and the guy eats a lob, or you hit 10 and they eat a shark.

 

 

 

2. What is farcasting to you? Do you think it is good or bad? Do you consider it to be a smart use of magic, or just "unhonorable"?

 

 

 

THey worked for that advantage, but if all you are going to do is stand back and barrage then run when they pull out a bow its dishonorable.

 

 

 

3. Melee/range/magic protect in 1v1 in deep wild, what do you think of this? Some say it's unhonorable, but, there really is nothing stopping you from doing it in deep wild (as compared to doing it in edge). Your views?

 

 

 

Well if you raised it, you've got the right to use it, its like saying that dude with 70 attack can't use his whip on you because you only have 60.

[axeraider194]

Thanks for all the input guys :)

[jwrm22]

saving, praying etc is just a part of the game... i dont mind it... i only dont use it when i need protect item or +15% str etc.

[armadillo48]

Well, i'm going to make this short and sweet, and this is not a rant, i'm just wanting to see everyone's opinions.

 

 

 

1. What is safing to you?

 

 

 

2. What is farcasting to you?

 

 

 

3. Melee/range/magic protect in 1v1 in deep wild,

 

 

 

 

IMO, these are all excuses and terms made up by people who can't handle a challenge.

 

 

 

1 - Learn to KO. Who are you to say when someone can eat, it's their food isn't it?

 

 

 

2- Bring Range/Magic. Magic was designed to be cast from afar/

 

 

 

3- You shouldn't pk with just one style, and pray right back.

[Aquashock]

1. What is safing to you? Do you think it is good or bad? Do you consider it to be regular eating, and is it smart to do it?

 

 

 

Safing is double edged. When other people do it to you, it does a few things. One, it stops them from hitting you, which lets you get more hits on them, and two, lowers their food, which puts you at an advantage. On the other side, I personally safe when i see a dagger, I tend to stay at around 50-60 hp, but i know a dagger can easily do 70 damage. So when i see the dagger, i usually eat a shark and have another ready. (noted, im 121 combat, im not some lvl 100, people can hit 39s in regular pk gear on me)

 

 

 

Constant safing to keep at around 80% hp is annoying, but if it annoys you just dont fight them. Safing on dagger specs is completely logical to me.

 

 

 

2. What is farcasting to you? Do you think it is good or bad? Do you consider it to be a smart use of magic, or just "unhonorable"?

 

 

 

Farcasting is great, not really at edge (although i do it) but its great for chasing. Keeps your opponant frozen while you do damage. Its smart, and at the same time, its NH. NH basically means not giving your opponent a fair fight, which if your on them and they cant hit, its not fair at all. But, I think of it as playing smarter.

 

 

 

3. Melee/range/magic protect in 1v1 in deep wild, what do you think of this?

 

 

 

In deep wild, and even in relatively low wild, prayers should be used. What alot of people dont understand about NH pkers, is that we go out in say ahrims, whip, and karils. That alone is like 3.5m, not including the regulation stuff, and the stuff other people bring (mage books, ranger sets, ect). Now people that we call "tanks" go in Black dragonhide, dds, and whip (along with beserker helm, ect, basically a 100k pk at the most) and they try to kill us for our expensive gear. This is VERY annoying, as most people who pk in deeper wild do, we pk for money and fun, not just fun. people who do this waste our time, make us kill them, and bank, while they have a good chance of killing us if we dont pray. Its smart, but is also classified as NH, due to the fact they dont have a fair fight, but honestly, they are in gear that is worth 10% of what we are using, and wasting our valuable time.

 

 

 

Thats my views, from a NH pker non-the-less.

[mrmyk]

I don't like safing and prayer because really, I find pk'ing boring enough in F2P without people doing that to slow it down even more :P Farcasting isn't too much of an annoyance as it is still keeping the fight moving fast and furious which is the way it is supposed to be.

[Torlen]

Wildy code was invented by a bunch of noobs who cant get kills without taking away the advantages you worked for. I do what I can to win, and think everyone of those rules are stupid. I do prefer smiting though.

[Xeones]

I say any pk-er should only eat when they are in danger of dying. My pure, Xeones300, is level 47 and can hit 19s with his 2h. Now, if someone eats at 25 health, they are safing and I get pissed, especially because I PK in Edgeville.

 

 

 

I also CANNOT STAND the noob that always has to stay at full health at all times. Makes me want to kill him even more, leading to me getting nowhere except negative lobsters! :evil:

[berbatovsky]

None of these terms mean anything to me, i very rarely pk and most of my interaction with pkers is when they attack me at green dragons or before the abyss. It is absurd for someone to attack you and then when you eat at 40 hp they call you a safer. Really unless you and another pker have a talk about not eating untill at a certain hp lvl/not casting magic from far away then there is no breach of honour. There are no rules in the wilderness, and this so called code of ethics is non-existant as far as i can see. Anyway we aren't knights of yore (who incidentally weren't as honourable as people think) and really if you pk you are attacking people to kill them and take their stuff, lets not talk about ethics and rules.

 

 

 

Edit:If we really intend to invoke the word honour, then surely it's not honourable to attack someone who is basically defenseless/doesn't want to fight. This code of honour should be renamed: 'arbitrary set of guidelines some guys thought up a while back'. I see no reason to abide by these 'guidelines' any more than abiding by these totally awesome ones i just thought up:1) Only pk people who are you're lvl or higher,reason: because i say so. 2)You may only pk in lvl 20+ wildy, reason:because i say so.3)Dragon daggers are banned from use in pking situations,reason:because i say so. ETC.................................

[Danqazmlp]

It is Wildy ANYTHING goes

 

 

 

If pkers can't accpet that then they shouldn't pk at all.

 

 

 

They just want to kill you faster because they are greedy 10 year olds who don't want to waste stuff and actually have a real fight.

 

 

 

"I have the right to tele and prayer deal with it or don't pk"

 

-Runescapew44

 

 

 

You hit the nail on the head right there.

 

 

 

Farcasting is what mages are supposed to do! It says in the kb, thats like calling a melee'r a cloce combat noob for getting close and hitting you.

[Soulthresher]

Its all unhonorable, thats an easy question to answer.

 

 

 

I have no idea where people are getting this crap about a bunch of noobs inventing these terms because they can't ko people :roll:

 

 

 

Atleast there is a sense of honor in runescape and a pking code so there are some decent fights. Without any codes of honor, most pking would be running up with a dds, speccing, then running away while you both get pjed, farcasted, or whatever. You should be happy that there is a code where atleast a small minority of Pkers abide by instead of the wilderness rule by a bunch of idiots running around in circles trying to kill each other.

 

 

 

Pking is funner with atleast some general rules.

[unkn0wnwarrior]

Its all unhonorable, thats an easy question to answer.

 

 

 

I have no idea where people are getting this crap about a bunch of noobs inventing these terms because they can't ko people :roll:

Maybe because that is how it started? :ohnoes:

 

 

 

Pking is funner with atleast some general rules.

There is only rule you need. Attack the other guy/team. If you want specific rules, I advise you to go somewhere else, because "unhonorable" or not, it will continue.

[Silver_Corner]

Love how more than half the people posting cant even pk.

 

 

 

Im sorry? But I have Never seen you, on any post you have every made, post something constructive to the thread. If you have reasons agains the topic, fine, but not explaining why makes you look like an idiot.

 

Quality of posts matter, not quantity.

 

 

 

Anyways OT:

 

My point is right here -

 

whats even funnier is how people who say wildy anything goes, im 100% sure they never get any real loot.

 

 

 

Its people like this that made the "Honor Rules". They made the rules in hopes to make PK'ing a profit, rather than a loss. This goes along the lines of, "You didnt die, gimme your stuff"

 

 

 

PKing is NOT meant to make a consistant profit, and anyone who trys to do so, simply ends up with the same situation as we have now.

 

 

 

Those who do make the profit, have the skills/tactics to get the money they earned. If you look, most of the most sucessful Pker's Dont follow rules other than the ones Jagex sets before them.

 

 

 

So to answer:

 

1. No such thing as "Safing". Food is a way to keep you alive, just like a weapon does damage. Not eating when you need to is like using an Iron dagger when you have 70 attack.

 

 

 

2. Farcasting is also a made up term. Mages were given greater casting range than rangers for a reason. Not using spells properly basically degrades magic to a useless level.

 

 

 

farcast then when the effect wears off you get specced 40-40 in your mystic robes with range pray on.

 

 

 

If you get hit with melee while using mage, your not using mage as its intended to be used. You can attack with far away for a reason, You can easily re-hold a person before they reach you, if your are using the full maging distance available to you.

 

 

 

If that special was a range attack, then yes. Last I checked.. Range > Mage on the triangle. So of course a ranger would hit super high on a mager. Thats how the triangle works.

 

 

 

3. Prayer is useable, and no reason not to use it. If Jagex didnt want us to use prayer in the wild, it would have no effect on PvP at all. But it does.

 

Its there, so no reason not to use it.

 

Also, anyone who only brings 1 form on combat, deservers to be prayed against. Not being able to switch combat types is your own downfall.

 

 

 

Also, another note on teleporting. The whole "teletuby" phrase again was created by the "honor Pkers" who were trying to squeeze money out of kills so they could make a profit on PKing. Well teleporting out is not agains the rules, or Jagex would not allow teleporting in the wilderness at all. Its there, perfectly legal to use it.

 

 

 

I dont pk, and dont need to to post views on this. Its the Wilderness.. Last time I checked, the "wilderness" has the root word "Wild". Wild means unpredictable, and thats they way it should be when your out fighting.

[imaerehw14]

1. What is safing to you? Do you think it is good or bad? Do you consider it to be regular eating, and is it smart to do it?

 

 

 

2. What is farcasting to you? Do you think it is good or bad? Do you consider it to be a smart use of magic, or just "unhonorable"?

 

 

 

3. Melee/range/magic protect in 1v1 in deep wild, what do you think of this? Some say it's unhonorable, but, there really is nothing stopping you from doing it in deep wild (as compared to doing it in edge). Your views?

 

1) i dont understand 'safing'. you brought food to save you, not to look at. when pkers say "its stupid because they lose the chance to KO me" what they really mean is "its stupid because i lose the chance to KO them, so i hate it". which isnt logical at all. if you have a problem, get better stats. aparently you aren't doing something right.

 

 

 

2. farcasting isn't bad in my oppinion. its just a way to help you pk someone. standing right next to a person when you are using a holding spell isnt logical at all. once the holding effects wear off, the meler had enogh time to bring out dds, pot up, and put on prayer. when comes next is only inevitable. so it gives some advantages to both sides.

 

 

 

3. praying 1v1 anywhere in the wild is fine. if you got the level to use it by all means use it. its there to help you. you didnt get the level to look at it. and like others have said, if they arent smiting, it just helps you out.

[Slayer_Jesse]

It is Wildy ANYTHING goes

 

 

 

If pkers can't accpet that then they shouldn't pk at all.

 

 

 

They just want to kill you faster because they are greedy 10 year olds who don't want to waste stuff and actually have a real fight.

 

 

 

"I have the right to tele and prayer deal with it or don't pk"

 

-Runescapew44

 

 

 

oh my god, yes! bunch of immature idiots... only reason ill ever follow those rules is bc the noobs in f2p run if you dont -.- '

[walka92]

It is Wildy ANYTHING goes

 

 

 

If pkers can't accpet that then they shouldn't pk at all.

 

 

 

They just want to kill you faster because they are greedy 10 year olds who don't want to waste stuff and actually have a real fight.

 

 

 

"I have the right to tele and prayer deal with it or don't pk"

 

-Runescapew44

 

 

 

oh my god, yes! bunch of immature idiots... only reason ill ever follow those rules is bc the noobs in f2p run if you dont -.- '

 

pretty much as soon as you do something in wildy that ppl dont like, they run

 

 

 

ony my pure, i K0 with mage coz it hits higher than its melee, i cast a spell and misses, they run

 

i eat to early, they run

 

i tele, they pm me flaming or flame wen i go back to pk again

 

 

 

 

 

btw

 

 

 

1) safing

 

id rather safe than die :-w

 

 

 

2)farcasting

 

its fine, thats how mage was designed, so thats how i use it. i dont wana take damage

 

 

 

3) praying

 

well, they arent smiting me. i always smite over pray unless im piled or tagged in deep wildy

[meb]

1. Safing: Safing is not eatign when you're about to die, safing is eating when you get hit for more than 20. This is very annoying and will result in your opponent running after you have used less than half of your food. But people use the term too often and in the wrong context (aka when they can't KO you).

 

 

 

2. Farcasting: It's annoying, if someone farcastd it's not a fun fight. That's why I bring d'hides.

 

 

 

3. Praying: I piety, smite and protect item but I will never protect pray. This is fun for neither of us because the fight will become a series of 0s and that's not fun.

 

 

 

 

 

These 'rules' are here to make PKing fun, not because people want your stuff. Try to understand that.

[NO1NAME1]

i think they r dumb! Id rather keep all my stuff then be called a nub by sum pker ill NEVER MEET!

[tintin113]

I don't pk all that much, but when I do, I like to stay alive. So I bring food, I pot up, I pray, and basically use everything that Jagex has given me to beat the stuffing out of those people.

 

 

 

The wilderness really shouldn't have rules, you do what you like to stay alive, and ignore the flame and spam from the dying people.

[Lee_Turrell]

It is Wildy ANYTHING goes

 

 

 

If pkers can't accpet that then they shouldn't pk at all.

 

 

 

They just want to kill you faster because they are greedy 10 year olds who don't want to waste stuff and actually have a real fight.

 

 

 

"I have the right to never go in the wilderness then cry because i think all pures are drop traders"

 

-Runescapew44

[oropher]

1. Well, I don't ussually eat when I'm at 60/94 hp, so I'd say eating above that hp is "safing". It's not bad, you are just trying to keep yourself from dieing.

 

 

 

2. Farcasting is freezing the enemy(normally a meleer) so that he cannot damage you. It's just another method of fighting, and it's in no way dishonorable. I never farcast, but that's just because I haven't got the mage or range levels to do so.

 

 

 

3. Protecting from any style is dishonorable in Edge. I never fight anyone using prayer. It's dishonorable because you can no longer kill them, and they still got a chance to kill you. That's obviously not right.

[sebbeberg]

The idiot who started to [bleep] about "farcasting" should be burnt.

[123Yourgone]

To the idiots saying that honour rules were made by people who cant get pks..

 

The honour rules were originally started by RSD and DI, 2 clans full of people who at that time got more pks then the rest of rrs combined, any of you go up to say ultimo aries, bahamzero or miner cire and tell them that they dont get any pks.

 

Cire alone probably has more kills on MAXED players, then the every one in this thread combined has on anyone, at last count over 2000.

 

 

 

I dont care if your NH, that just means i wont fight you, im glad there is some kind of an honour code to make the wilderness a place worth pking in.