End of Pures? ='(

[rangerid]

as of dec 10th 2007 rs pures officially died and are completely useless. all that time i spent training trying to make the perfect pker.

 

 

 

The main thing i regret is not pking much and spent hours stuck at the overcrowded lesser demon place trying to lvl my range cuz i was never members.

 

 

 

TO me, pures are all useless now...

[jessy87]

pure is just a word of the past now.

[elishot]

Awwwwwwww all that work at pc for nothing. gf.

[Italian5kamikaze]

Pures were pretty much already dead.

[jackal_55]

not only pures, but mage and range tanks.

 

its just not worth levelling those skills if you're only fighting monsters, when melee can get the same levels for less money, and in half the time.

 

also, combat levels are totally irrelevant to the majority of the runescape populace, because hardly anyone is going to be using bounty hunter.

[jessy87]

not only pures, but mage and range tanks.

 

its just not worth levelling those skills if you're only fighting monsters, when melee can get the same levels for less money, and in half the time.

 

also, combat levels are totally irrelevant to the majority of the runescape populace, because hardly anyone is going to be using bounty hunter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i had never considered that! combat lvl cap might just go up...awesome i love it

[G_P_Kid]

Actually, to be completely honest, it seems pures are the only ones who benefit. For example, Mayhem Makers has been teaming up at Bounty Hunter and completely owning. Due to the combat level caps and minimums, pures have the perfect oppurtunity to own the low & med level Bounty Hunter minigame, ESPECIALLY in a group.

[Artificial_Doom_Flavor]

Actually, to be completely honest, it seems pures are the only ones who benefit. For example, Mayhem Makers has been teaming up at Bounty Hunter and completely owning. Due to the combat level caps and minimums, pures have the perfect oppurtunity to own the low & med level Bounty Hunter minigame, ESPECIALLY in a group.

 

 

 

I think what is meant by that is the use of pures for individual combat.

[NukeMarine]

I kinda wonder if a Pure can dominate a revenant like he does normal players?

 

 

 

If revenant drops are worth it, maybe there's a sub-genre of monster hunters in there.

 

 

 

Oh wait, never mind.

[Lets_3ekout]

Overall, good riddance. It's harsh, but you can't deny the average moronic pure, perhaps this is the only good aspect of this update, for me at least. I feel bad for those that made PKing pures and had an IQ over 1, but perhaps we'll see some more maturity in places that don't require defence levels now, you never know.

 

 

 

It's pretty funny seeing how the average owner of a main (with no pure) reacts to this and the low ammount of respect [most] pures made for themselves. *Runs happily back to the abyss*.

[jonni]

Awwwwwwww all that work at pc for nothing. gf.

 

 

 

:XD: !

[Gold_Tiger10]

It's harsh, but you can't deny the average moronic pure

 

+1

[Rock Hard]

It's harsh, but you can't deny the average moronic pure

 

 

 

 

I can't. But I can also suggest that it's reasonable to treat each individual as an individual.

 

 

 

Bland generalizations are the sign of a limited thinker.

 

 

 

// A Long Time Pure //

[calum12]

Pures are gone forever, there is no longer a reason to have one.

[Attila88]

Lets say that pures were simply abusing of a flaw in the combat calculator.

 

 

 

When you at 80 met another level 80, he is supposed to have your same combat. A pure was far higher.

 

 

 

Training a skill only should have given you some pro and contro. The problem was that was possible to minimize the contros too much.

 

 

 

Now if all will stay like is supposed to be now, a pure will still be great in the bounty hunter minigame (as soon as it will be turned in a solo area fight, and clan/piling pking will be kicked off the arena). The bounty hunter low level/medium level area will be pures ground and will be possible to get high level ranks even if playing just there.

 

 

 

As a matter of fact the impossibility/limitations of pouring money into the character menas that they will have to grown him by himself (AS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE EVEN BEFORE).

 

 

 

The characters who are now useless are those created to earn money quick, by any means, and then pour it in a main. Even a pure will now have to behave according rules of the game as is not expendable as before.

[Lets_3ekout]

It's harsh, but you can't deny the average moronic pure

 

 

 

 

I can't. But I can also suggest that it's reasonable to treat each individual as an individual.

 

 

 

Bland generalizations are the sign of a limited thinker.

 

 

 

// A Long Time Pure //

 

(*Notes that by saying "I can't" you'd be agreeing with me :P *)

 

I do my best to give every single person a chance before making assumptions, but when time after time I get called noob for EVERY SINGLE THING I do by well over 99% over the community (sadly that statistic is probably true) I can't help myself but take a negative view onto a certain range of the players. However, should I ever see a pure in game I will never come up to them and call them a moron or anything of that sort. I'll carry on normally untill I can see what they're like, if they seem to be completely immature I'll proceed to ignore them and move on with my life, only dignifying questions and requests with an answer when they were said with some degree of maturity.

 

 

 

I completely understand your frustration though, so don't take this as a stab at you but an explanation :wink: To train an account for possibly hundreds of hours and then have it discarded at your expense is pretty unfair, it's not like a cop would shoot a hostage to get to the criminal now would he?

[Wachtwoord]

Philip, that's a bit unfair. Yes, a lot tlk l13k cr4p, but if you don't pay attention to the way they write, I found a lot of them to be nice people with whom you can have a nice conversation. Yes, this also counts for the pures who went to the wild and said "GF NERD IRL!!!11". Instead of just ignoring them, I tried to change them a bit. I've become (sort of) friends with quite a lot, I'm and positive at least a few changed their behaviour a bit and immediately looked a lot more mature. Some even tried to improve their pking friends who acted the same.

 

I wish people would stop whining about it and instead try to do something against it.

[wannabee789]

I don't judge updates before I've used them.

 

 

 

So I went online yesterday and read all the announcements and went to Tip.It for some discussions and stuff. Some people were already complaining like usually, the official rant forums got flooded also like usally. I thought it can't be that bad, so I went to check it out. I logged in on my pure, and went to the bounty hunter area... Once I got there it was pretty crowded, and it looked like it was popular. Yeah popular for the 1 itemers -.- . As soon as I completed the toturial I went to the medium leveled cave, my pure is 61 combat. I got a target and thougth lets get him. So I took my first steps away from the exit cave and saw an arrow on the mini map. I ran in that direction and saw the guy that I needed to kill he was 92, I'm 61. How am I suposed to kill him? Even with defence it's not that easy. When I got closer he suddenly took the exit, I had no idea why... Till I got piled by some level 80-90s. It was a 1 itemer clan. I took the exit as fast as possible. And my first thougth was, pking is dead now.

 

 

 

After this I tried several times to get in and to play the mini-game like it should be played. That didn't go very well, everytime I went inside I got piled by some high leveled guys. So far I've always been capable of escaping, but when you go deeper and you get piled by some guys that have nothing to lose in multi-combat you're pretty much dead. Certainly with 1 defence, but even a level 60er with an average defence is in danger. Because you're automatically skulled and everybody can attack you, they'll do everything to get your pixels. For the people with 25 prayer, pking is more alive then ever. But for the true pkers, no, not only pures there are main accounts who like it too, pking is dead. It's still possible to kill people but when everybody has like 1 item and uses prayer there's no more challenge in the fights. Now you'll lose anyway, you'll waste food, have a chance to get piled...

 

 

 

Oh and before I get comments on my pure and things... It took me 3 years to train it and I enjoyed it (Name: Aegis Titan, check him if you want). The stupid part is that I can't use it anymore in the way I liked. It wasn't made for the pixels, or calling other people safers and stuff... The pking was just for fun, and the challenge. It's a challenge because you can die, or you can kill your opponent and gain loot. Monsters can kill you or drop loot too but they're pretty safe to figth with. And the fun comes in if you get some nice loot or fougth a good fight.

 

 

 

The old wilderniss had it's downsides too but those aren't as bad as the bounty hunter area. I think they should've split it up in more areas and not drop the level 100s between the people with 55 combat or higher.

 

In the old wilderniss you had those guys too, who only used 1 item, but it was less common. Another thing is you didn't have to enter multi-combat. Edgeville pking is way much more fun, 1 on 1. Of course there's a risk too to get pile jumped, but again that's only by 1 person and in most cases he's in your combat level range. Not like a group of 90s...

 

 

 

So I need to admit I'm dissapointed about this update, but we can't really blaim JaGEx as the only ones. Those gold farmers and the players that buy the gold are the disease, JaGEx just made a mistake when they tried to cure it.

 

 

 

And the dissease isn't extinct yet, they found another way for real world trading, now they're just selling accounts, accounts with money on... And a thing I hadn't heard yet was that they offer to train and gain money on your account for real money. The only thing you'll have to do is give them your password. Or at least that's what I read on the official forums. Although I think they've killed quite some real world trading or ways.

 

 

 

So my only question is, was it worth it to harm the players that play in a honest way? I hope it's in the long run, that's what moderators said too. I guess I just have to wait and see. But for now I won't be spending my time in the bounty hunter area...

[FooK-A-Ji]

Funny topic title, seeing as pures have been gone since Rs1. Rs2 just took the word "pure" and raped it, thats all.. This update changed nothing for "pures" , since they're all still on Rs1, the real pking game.

[Rock Hard]

 

I do my best to give every single person a chance before making assumptions

 

 

 

;) Thats fine then.

 

 

 

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The main problem with pures in bounty hunter - Is that in my experience theres a lot more pures who PK on their own than mains who PK on their own.

 

 

 

[Perhaps because when mage bank and rune rock pking, solo is not really practical for obvious reasons.]

 

 

 

The purpose of a pure, is to hit hard and fast, making your opponent eat instead of stab. The lack of defense and prayer means pures go down quicker when piled. [Not always the case, i know there's very good pure teams out there.]

 

 

 

Secondly, pures gain an advantage by being at the peak of their level range. Maxing the right stats to be better in PvP than your average player of the same level. Attila88, this isn't an abuse of the combat system, it's simply specialization. Most mains don't specialize for PvP, cause they enjoy doing quests and PvE. Characters with defence will do much better against monsters, needing to eat less, fewer bank trips and getting higher exp per hour. This advantage is stripped away in a zone where level 56's fight level 100's. Hell, thats not even fair for the average level 56, never mind one without defense.

 

 

 

To fix this, and make BH possibly fun:

 

 

 

- Add single combat zones.

 

 

 

- Add Stricter level divisions.

 

 

 

It will never be the wilderness, but maybe it can be fun...

[beaver]

Funny topic title, seeing as pures have been gone since Rs1. Rs2 just took the word "pure" and raped it, thats all.. This update changed nothing for "pures" , since they're all still on Rs1, the real pking game.

 

Totally agreed :)

 

that old 3 hit system was sooo perfect :cry:

 

but well we still had stake where you had use for pure :)

[BabyPunchers]

Philip, that's a bit unfair. Yes, a lot tlk l13k cr4p, but if you don't pay attention to the way they write, I found a lot of them to be nice people with whom you can have a nice conversation.

 

 

 

:-k :-s

 

 

 

Pures gone are the only good thing about this update imo.

[777thzapster]

 

 

 

Well shockingly I think 4 out of the 5 people on the Bounty Hunter list is pure, so I don't see the point of this thread. =;

[swordwindtrtrtrt]

I knew there was a positive side to this update. Hopefully I wont have to have "DEF NUB!!!111!" screamed at me again when a pure misses all 4 dds specs.

[nightshade53]

not only pures, but mage and range tanks.

 

its just not worth levelling those skills if you're only fighting monsters, when melee can get the same levels for less money, and in half the time.

 

also, combat levels are totally irrelevant to the majority of the runescape populace, because hardly anyone is going to be using bounty hunter.

 

 

 

Really? :o

 

 

 

I've spent years making mine #-o

 

*Points to RS Highscores link <-*