17 December 2007 - Future Changes to Recent Updates

[SomeWelshGuy]

Yay! At least I can give my friends something for their Birthdays :P

[Jordanweb]

just give jagex sometime and they improve pking.

 

 

 

Why improve it when they could just bring back the old system with limitations that would kill RWT but leave everything in that the rest of us liked about it?

 

 

 

Because the old system sucked.

[Mordendravid]

:D

 

I just realized lending means we can lend our precious Holiday Items to friends to wear, without fear that they may run away with them.

 

 

 

I'll laugh if they die....wearing the rare.

 

Hopefully the rare is returned or -.-

 

 

 

^ Wouldn't work.. If any borrowed item was returned to the owner upon death then all you'd need to do is borrow the items you wanted to use in (for example) Bounty Hunter and hey presto no risk of losing items..

 

 

 

I'm not sure how they'll implement it, but it's obvious that a lot of thought needs to go into it to prevent people taking advantage of something like the above, but also to protect the lender from losing their stuff.

 

 

 

Personally, I'm not sure that this idea will work too well. Although there are some easy solutions - for example with Bounty Hunter "you may not enter this area as the items you are holding are borrowed" but there are plenty of other places in the game where it is possible to die, and would be advantageous if you didn't lose any of the items you're holding when you do.

 

 

 

Additionally, if there was no risk in lending out items, consider the number of people that will turn into 'borrowing noobs' the old "free stoof plox" will turn into "borrow ur phat plox" overnight!

[baalboy5]

No complants, but lets see the rants forums?

[x_bow80]

I laugh at the people who quit and dumped their stuff. Then read this and wish they hadn't :lol:

 

 

 

Sounds really good though.

[qeltar]

 

The fact that they nuked the old wildy and hand over some half-assed namesakes in its place just shows how little thought they put into this update.

 

 

Actually, it supports the contention that they did this because they felt they had to.

[BBC3]

just give jagex sometime and they improve pking.

 

 

 

Why improve it when they could just bring back the old system with limitations that would kill RWT but leave everything in that the rest of us liked about it?

 

 

 

and what would that be? how about using the suggestions forum on the rsof instead of being here and complaining.

[BBC3]

just give jagex sometime and they improve pking.

 

 

 

Why improve it when they could just bring back the old system with limitations that would kill RWT but leave everything in that the rest of us liked about it?

 

 

 

Because the old system sucked.

 

 

 

-1 i disagree

 

 

 

parody of your sig since most of the times on these forums you make no sense.

[Naruto_1001]

:D

 

I just realized lending means we can lend our precious Holiday Items to friends to wear, without fear that they may run away with them.

 

 

 

I'll laugh if they die....wearing the rare.

 

Hopefully the rare is returned or -.-

 

 

 

^ Wouldn't work.. If any borrowed item was returned to the owner upon death then all you'd need to do is borrow the items you wanted to use in (for example) Bounty Hunter and hey presto no risk of losing items..

 

 

 

I'm not sure how they'll implement it, but it's obvious that a lot of thought needs to go into it to prevent people taking advantage of something like the above, but also to protect the lender from losing their stuff.

 

 

 

Personally, I'm not sure that this idea will work too well. Although there are some easy solutions - for example with Bounty Hunter "you may not enter this area as the items you are holding are borrowed" but there are plenty of other places in the game where it is possible to die, and would be advantageous if you didn't lose any of the items you're holding when you do.

 

 

 

Additionally, if there was no risk in lending out items, consider the number of people that will turn into 'borrowing noobs' the old "free stoof plox" will turn into "borrow ur phat plox" overnight!

 

I was reading this topic till the end hoping nobody said this before I would, but well you did :D I wanted to say the same and I totally agree with you. A F2Per would lend his Full Rune to his friend and then his friend is going to kill some giant spiders, when he dies he go get prayer in Lumbridge where his friend will stand with the full rune and he can go die again.

[Sy_Accursed]

Since pretty much everyone who goes to sara godwars is in a team and soon with lootshare on. How will those hilts ever get in the economy again? :?

 

Since what I am thinking is that it will be deleted from runescape, only to be replaced by gp. Meh, just have to wait I guess. No interrest in coming back for a 1v1 arena wich might come as late as June.

 

 

 

They said they were thinking a way that it goes onto the bGE but sellprice is automagically split between the team.

 

 

 

That means u all get gp stead of item, but hilts still filter into circulation

[Dragonlordjl]

30k is still chump change. 100k or hell, even 300k, would be far more fair and would still not allow RWTs to profit. Most trades vary between 50-100k per trade. No one using a disposable account will spend the MONTHS it takes to get the stat requirements AND go through the process of completing all quests just to be able to trade freely. They will just move on to a different game, which is Jagex wants. That's why I think the cap needs to be higher for those with max or close to max Quest Points.

[Naruto_1001]

:D

 

I just realized lending means we can lend our precious Holiday Items to friends to wear, without fear that they may run away with them.

 

 

 

I'll laugh if they die....wearing the rare.

 

Hopefully the rare is returned or -.-

 

 

 

^ Wouldn't work.. If any borrowed item was returned to the owner upon death then all you'd need to do is borrow the items you wanted to use in (for example) Bounty Hunter and hey presto no risk of losing items..

 

 

 

I'm not sure how they'll implement it, but it's obvious that a lot of thought needs to go into it to prevent people taking advantage of something like the above, but also to protect the lender from losing their stuff.

 

 

 

Personally, I'm not sure that this idea will work too well. Although there are some easy solutions - for example with Bounty Hunter "you may not enter this area as the items you are holding are borrowed" but there are plenty of other places in the game where it is possible to die, and would be advantageous if you didn't lose any of the items you're holding when you do.

 

 

 

Additionally, if there was no risk in lending out items, consider the number of people that will turn into 'borrowing noobs' the old "free stoof plox" will turn into "borrow ur phat plox" overnight!

 

I was reading this topic till the end hoping nobody said this before I would, but well you did :D I wanted to say the same and I totally agree with you. A F2Per would lend his Full Rune to his friend and then his friend is going to kill some giant spiders, when he dies he goes to the prayer altar in Lumbridge where his friend will stand with the full rune and he can go die again.

[Jordanweb]

I'm sorry, are you still butt-hurt after that time someone pked you at green drags? :cry: Poor pixel-hugging carebear. I'm sure there's a support group somewhere...

 

 

 

Lol good one. :lol:

[truffoo]

They will have to take their time to work through the lending system.

 

 

 

Imagine: meet a new person and you ask to borrow their whip to try it out. You go off together to DK's or other high-level monster. You're both fighting away and he logs out. You lose your whip and begin fighting DK's with your bare hands. He then logs back in and loots your gravestone. I'm sure there are people out there who would be that mean.

[Dragonlordjl]

They will have to take their time to work through the lending system.

 

 

 

Imagine: meet a new person and you ask to borrow their whip to try it out. You go off together to DK's or other high-level monster. You're both fighting away and he logs out. You lose your whip and begin fighting DK's with your bare hands. He then logs back in and loots your gravestone. I'm sure there are people out there who would be that mean.

 

 

 

1) They stated that upon logging out, you would receive the item back.

 

 

 

2) You cannot loot other peoples' graves. Once the grave crumbles, your items go buh-bye. Therefore, there is NO profiting off others' deaths.

[Solidus_77]

Well that's just perfect! Since they have decided to fix up lootshare then that means that I have absolutely nothing against this update. Awesome! :

 

 

 

They will have to take their time to work through the lending system.

 

 

 

Imagine: meet a new person and you ask to borrow their whip to try it out. You go off together to DK's or other high-level monster. You're both fighting away and he logs out. You lose your whip and begin fighting DK's with your bare hands. He then logs back in and loots your gravestone. I'm sure there are people out there who would be that mean.

 

 

 

We can't loot gravestones. The friend's only incentive to do such a thing would be to try and hurt you (for no gain). That, or an accidental dc.

[Spirrus]

Wow.....I'm glad I decided to wait it out. At least after these updates they can build on it and make them better. Damn.....I feel sorry for those who tossed away all their stuff then quit. :?

[Berrakus]

If all items that you lend out are returned to you when the person that you lent it to dies, then any duo that likes to kill Boss monsters will just swap equipment before they go. That way if either person dies, no items are lost (except for drops that person got, but Jagex may even eliminate that with their "LootShare to GE" fix).

[Mayjest]

Many of those ideas sound.. familiar. :D

 

 

 

Glad to see they are planning to take action. The GE changes should be done before they cut off trading, though.

 

 

 

Hehe, as I was reading it I thought "Hang on, I swear I've seen this list on TruthScape... possibly in the same order".

[Sy_Accursed]

:D

 

I just realized lending means we can lend our precious Holiday Items to friends to wear, without fear that they may run away with them.

 

 

 

I'll laugh if they die....wearing the rare.

 

Hopefully the rare is returned or -.-

 

 

 

^ Wouldn't work.. If any borrowed item was returned to the owner upon death then all you'd need to do is borrow the items you wanted to use in (for example) Bounty Hunter and hey presto no risk of losing items..

 

 

 

I'm not sure how they'll implement it, but it's obvious that a lot of thought needs to go into it to prevent people taking advantage of something like the above, but also to protect the lender from losing their stuff.

 

 

 

Personally, I'm not sure that this idea will work too well. Although there are some easy solutions - for example with Bounty Hunter "you may not enter this area as the items you are holding are borrowed" but there are plenty of other places in the game where it is possible to die, and would be advantageous if you didn't lose any of the items you're holding when you do.

 

 

 

Additionally, if there was no risk in lending out items, consider the number of people that will turn into 'borrowing noobs' the old "free stoof plox" will turn into "borrow ur phat plox" overnight!

 

I was reading this topic till the end hoping nobody said this before I would, but well you did :D I wanted to say the same and I totally agree with you. A F2Per would lend his Full Rune to his friend and then his friend is going to kill some giant spiders, when he dies he go get prayer in Lumbridge where his friend will stand with the full rune and he can go die again.

 

 

 

Undoubtably Jagex will impose limits on WHERE u can use lended items and WHAT items can be lent. What happens with death will be an interesting one to see.

[spooferfish]

Awesome. Simply put, awesome.

 

 

 

See, they are trying to fix this, and make the game still playable..

 

 

 

paw claw, thats why they are looking into it carefully..they cant let things like that happen.. id imagine if they die the item goes back to the owner ?

 

 

 

Quest points for staking limits...another shot at pures? :)

[Vansing]

The item lnding feature sounds great \

 

Yay :XD:

[nfntjy]

They could impose a penalty for dying while wearing/holding lent items. You could lose your ability to borrow anything for a day, or a week, perhaps.

[Peronix]

Yeah I just had a bad thought...

 

 

 

If they release the lending feature there is going to be a LOT more "Can I try on ur phat plz". Just because it's safe dosen't mean it will be any less annoying.

[jessy87]

Yeah I just had a bad thought...

 

 

 

If they release the lending feature there is going to be a LOT more "Can I try on ur phat plz". Just because it's safe dosen't mean it will be any less annoying.

 

 

 

 

 

what if they dropped it?