I'd say that now-a-days people seem to not have the courtesy to hope if someone is there before you.

 

 

 

I on the other choose to hop in most cases; unless someone really has made me mad :shame: or if I get into a convo.

I dont see how that ruins the fun of MMO.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The reason you go to a spot is to train, you are going there with the mindset that hoping no one would be there so you have the whole place to yourself (aren't we all)?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have no problem with people come share spot and train. I am not going to ask them to leave just because I was there first. If I feel the place is too crowded to get good xp, I will hop myself to save the trouble. Further more, there are instances you have to fight for your training spots, thats part of the fun (and dont forget, this is a competitive resource gathering game).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I always hop when someone comes around, then there is no point to train anymore, because even if I hop to another empty world same thing will happen again. If you have high skill lvl or combat lvl, thats your advantage against other because you can train faster and last longer than anyone else. All the resources are there, its fair game that anyone can go for it. in any case you rarely see anyone stay at one spot that long.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PS: The one that more so annoying are the ones that start to insult if you dont do what they want, and thats why we have noob say the funniest thing thread.

I don't ask people to hop, i don't own "the spot"

 

 

 

Usually i just hop myself if i feel the area is getting too crowded.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What does annoy me though is when you get some lazy level 130s just saying "hop world noob"

 

 

 

I'll tell them it's my spot just as much as it is theirs, and then just usually turn public chat off because i know i'm just gonna get flamed after that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if 130's tell that to me and im near a bank, i most of the time get some prayer pots and prayer armour, and piety there kills (if multi)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

or ill get some friends and pwn him to another world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that's how we do \

As a result of what has been said in this thread on greater demons I tried out the alternatives. First the wildy. No one to be seen of course. I had the place for myself. The only problem is that the greater demons are quite far apart. So I spend a lot of time running. Much more than in Brimhaven dungeon. And then there was the constant interuption of revenants. I had 2 in 10 minutes. Not nice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I then logged in on a PvP world. I saw someone mentioning that there are no revs on PvP.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But then I thought: why not go to the decent training spot in you are in PvP. So I went to Brimhaven dungeon. Saw a few people in ardougne but nobody in the dungeon of course.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the log in message was interesting though. Apparently I was wearing and holding 1,7million Gp worth of stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was wearing a noob outfit though to minimize the risk. torag lefs, rune platebody, d helm, climbing boots, glory, rune defender, ring of slaying, abyssal whip.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I already lost slayer helm and d boots twice this week due to lag. So I played safe.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Training is going quite smooth though, although my max hit is considerably lower than normal. No interuption whatsoever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's probably because only 97 people were logged on on the PvP world when I logged on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The chances of PKers checking out training spots is pretty low.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe a new kind of PKer will arise next week: the Skiller Pker.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That said. Training is pretty safe. Greater demons isn't a multi zone so you are safe as long as you are attacking something.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe the PvP worlds are a good alternative to hopping?

I'd much rather make the other person hop than hop myself. :thumbup:

 

 

 

I'm going to be honest here. I would do the same. I'm too lazy when it comes to world hopping. And I'm not going for 99 in slayer, so why care about if I get a little bit less xp?

LOL, I bring a cannon with a few hundred cannonballs to Bandits so I don't have to hop worlds.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know it's rude - I just find the whines oddly satisfying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's no need whatsoever for tactics like that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Especially when there is space for two or even three people to fight at bandits.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

there's nothing wrong with actually getting along with your fellow players.

If I reach a place thats already occupied, I hop.

 

 

 

If I reach an empty world, stay for a while, and then someone comes, I will stay. :|

 

 

 

Its not the 30 seconds that bother me, its the next 10 minutes that go in searching for an empty world. And if you play the game with the view of "stress buster", then this is going to frustrate you even more. :cry:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mostly, there is abundant resources to be arguing on. Only problems are seen at Cannon-able monsters and Boss monsters (preferably GWD). This population of players is decreasing slowly for now (due to CB [yes I know he's a boss too! :P], PvP and what not being added :P)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks..

 

 

 

Lord Shalaj

Hopping can be a huge waste of time. Sometimes you never find an empty world. And if you do, someone else will show up soon. That's why I just try to find a world where there are enough monsters to reasonably share. If the other guy cooperates, I leave his monsters alone. If he doesn't, I compete with him. If he gets all the kills, I hop. If I get all the kills, I figure he brought it on himself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another point is that if you try doing a few quests, new venues open up to you. I always kill greaters in the cage at the ogre dungeon. There's more than enough to go around in there. I just get a crystal bow and slaughter away -- insanely fast ranged xp. Most newbs don't even know that cage exists.

It's not fair to expect another player to hop worlds just because you want them to. If you're willing to train in the same spot as someone else, fine. If you insist on having the spot to yourself, then you can hop, instead of bugging the other person. If they don't mind sharing the spot, and you do, they're not the one with the problem. Courtesy has nothing to do with it.

I admit I'm one of those guys that will not hop worlds and expect the others to hopefully hop.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Usually if that dosen't do, I would just try to kill the monsters faster (In this case Ankous) and intentionally attack the one nearest to them just to make them hop. It's mean and cruel I know, but as someone said before hopping is too much of a trouble and it is always fun to see a lvl 130+ with a godsword switching worlds.

to tell you the truth i will never hop even if there is someone there before me. for me the whole point of leveling is to out play the other person.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

like mining if i can out mine you why do i need to hop? dont you think i need to do my runs too.

I hop if there's someone before me.

 

 

 

I hop when someone comes in and picks a fight/indicates he's going to stay.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As the slayer spots filled up, and the original hopping "slayer code" waned, I've learned to quit getting frustrated and just hop. I don't see any charm in wasting my limited time to play in arguing or "fighting" over a spot to see who has the biggest [self-censure]. If I boost some silly teenager's ego by making him think he's oh so powerful because he drove me away, so be it.

Normally if people come, and they don't hop within 5 minutes I just hop. I hate wasting my pot doses on Slayer, and waiting to fight for spawns.

Do slayer in PvP worlds. The problem will solve itself. :thumbsup:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was at abby demons last night. Got teleblocked and barraged by a clan of 4 ahrims people for firecape, rune defender, my 2 whip drops, dragon boots, slayer helm. It's always a risk.

ITT: Rude People.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What ever happened to the Golden Rule?

I have the same problem when training hunter. They steal the spots I was training in instead of hopping, it really ****es me off. :evil:

I'm sort of a bit of both. Sometimes if I see a place is getting too crowded I'll take the initiative and hop because if I want things to be quieter, then I can't expect someone else to move because I want them to. Since it helps the people there too, it's doing them good too. Sometimes if I've been training for a while I'll just take a break. Log off, come on the forums or look something up for twenty minutes or so (sometimes it turns into hours when I get reading a thread here :P) and go back, sometimes it's busier and sometimes it's empty. Either way you've not spent ages arguing with people to move or barely getting a monster because everyone else is stealing them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tl;dr: you can't expect someone else to move to make it more convenient to you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I like the idea of training in PvP worlds, it's totally deserted anywhere outside main spots.

But if too many slayers start to train in these worlds. The pkers will eventually come to popular slayer spots.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But for the time being its all so deserted and nice \

The way I see it, you're wasting more time hopping and finding an empty world then if you stayed.

i go both ways this this topic.

 

 

 

when i am doing slayer i will hop just to make my task faster, but if i am doign something like kbd solo's or bandos solo's or speed training at daggs it can get crowded. and a lot of people ask you to hop when you were there first, just cause there to lazy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ex. i was training at ct daggs someone else came and we were both fine there for aobut 30minutes then i had to restock on supplies. i come back adn he knows its me but he still asks me to hop because "he was there first". a lot of people taking you hopping not as thank you for helping me but more thank you for not taking the little bit of extra kills i could get. they expect you to hop now that some many people will do it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~~there for if there is enough for or u were obviously there first i will never hop and i will stick to this~~

I usually hop if I'm fighting monsters if I show up and there are others there unless there is only like 1 person there, since I can talk to that person.

I usually do the following:

 

"Oh, I'm so sorry! I didn't notice you standing there for the last hour! I'm terribly sorry to have been such an inconvenience. Sorry..."

 

And then hop.

the manners on world hopping havent really changed in my experiences. Most of the time at locations where higher level players are (such as rock lobsters) people switch, I've only had 1 occurance I can remember when I had a problem with that. Lower level/popular slayer spots usually pose a bigger problem. Generally if someone tries to take over my spot I will stay and attempt to fight for it since I'm maxed in combat skills, but if they are beating me out more than 2-3 times I usually switch (as annoying as this can be).

 

 

 

I remember doing a bandos trip with a group of friends (about 4-5) and a team of about 8-9 lower levels attempted to crash us, since we were stronger we got every kill however they were doing a good 1/4th to 1/3rd of the damage but we got every single drop, they stayed for a whopping 30 kills or so! About that time they proceeded to call us noobs and swapped worlds. So its not always a bad thing \