Dragon Claws

[Star_Fox]

it shouldn't be nerfed. it's enough that they'd decided to limit the claws potential to 100-50-25-25% per special. it's a highly respected item because it's a rare drop from lvl 450 demons according to some quest capes. nerfing the claws would just lower its reputation and drop to where the other drag weapons are. since they're dragon claws (which is part of an anatomy of a real dragon) it should hold a special place among the other stronger weapons.

 

 

 

... For the last freaking time. We don't know if the special is limited to 100% - 50% - 25% - 25%. I agree, most hits do look like they're calculated off the first blow to land. But there are pictures and video clips out there that violate this rule, and if you ever had a chance to test this weapon for more than a couple hours, you'd know as well.

 

 

 

We still do not know how damage is calculated for these.

 

 

 

well since i've been using the claws special for like 1000x times, i can assume it's 100-50-25-25. the reason why the characters in the video violates this rule is because they pot. therefore making the strength slightly stronger and unbalancing the percentages.

[Soma2035]

it shouldn't be nerfed. it's enough that they'd decided to limit the claws potential to 100-50-25-25% per special. it's a highly respected item because it's a rare drop from lvl 450 demons according to some quest capes. nerfing the claws would just lower its reputation and drop to where the other drag weapons are. since they're dragon claws (which is part of an anatomy of a real dragon) it should hold a special place among the other stronger weapons.

 

 

 

... For the last freaking time. We don't know if the special is limited to 100% - 50% - 25% - 25%. I agree, most hits do look like they're calculated off the first blow to land. But there are pictures and video clips out there that violate this rule, and if you ever had a chance to test this weapon for more than a couple hours, you'd know as well.

 

 

 

We still do not know how damage is calculated for these.

 

 

 

well since i've been using the claws special for like 1000x times, i can assume it's 100-50-25-25. the reason why the characters in the video violates this rule is because they pot. therefore making the strength slightly stronger and unbalancing the percentages.

 

 

 

That doesn't explain hits like 35-34-1-0 though...

 

 

 

Nor does it explain 9-9-6-5.

[canu44]

K this is how it goes, the d claws hit one of the 4 scenarios

 

 

 

i have 2 d claws and i know

 

 

 

28-14-7-7 -100%-50%-25-25

 

0-0-0-the last attack is made stronger so it can hit 48 as seen in pic

 

 

 

or 0-19-20-0- i dont know why it just hits like this sometimes

 

 

 

9-9-6-5 this is like the final blow on a guard i hit a 16-5-0-1 because he only has 22 hp and its one blow

 

 

 

d claws are pretty rare drop rates like 1 in 250 for me already banked 1k+ blues charms, killing demons

 

 

 

and its 80mil+ because of following reasons

 

 

 

1. not that many people done quest for tormented

 

2. chances are 1 in 250/ 2x the drop rate for armadyl hilt

 

3. theres only one mass at any one time and maybe only 25 max people ever solo/teaming at any one time

 

4. who has 80mil+ junk to sell d claws, i have a lot of friends (maybe around 3-4)who has 2+ d claws that will not sell for cash and will only settle for 3a, and look on RSOF you will see people say to offer only 3a and yet they still dont decide to buy with 3a

 

for me i dont know what to do i just want to settle for pure cash :) but i have no junk at all, i usually loan for free or 60k(and 150k worth of stuff like death runes or jewellery rings for 12 hours overnight

[Star_Fox]

K this is how it goes, the d claws hit one of the 4 scenarios

 

 

 

i have 2 d claws and i know

 

 

 

28-14-7-7 -100%-50%-25-25

 

0-0-0-the last attack is made stronger so it can hit 48 as seen in pic

 

 

 

or 0-19-20-0- i dont know why it just hits like this sometimes

 

 

 

9-9-6-5 this is like the final blow on a guard i hit a 16-5-0-1 because he only has 22 hp and its one blow

 

 

 

d claws are pretty rare drop rates like 1 in 250 for me already banked 1k+ blues charms, killing demons

 

 

 

and its 80mil+ because of following reasons

 

 

 

1. not that many people done quest for tormented

 

2. chances are 1 in 250/ 2x the drop rate for armadyl hilt

 

3. theres only one mass at any one time and maybe only 25 max people ever solo/teaming at any one time

 

4. who has 80mil+ junk to sell d claws, i have a lot of friends (maybe around 3-4)who has 2+ d claws that will not sell for cash and will only settle for 3a, and look on RSOF you will see people say to offer only 3a and yet they still dont decide to buy with 3a

 

for me i dont know what to do i just want to settle for pure cash :) but i have no junk at all, i usually loan for free or 60k(and 150k worth of stuff like death runes or jewellery rings for 12 hours overnight

 

 

 

 

 

i wouldn't say the claws are 80m. if you buy them at night, most are willing to settle for 50m cash (because the lack of competing buyers), or 30m with a 3rd age item.

 

 

 

i bought my claws for 49m. (sold some junk so i ended with 48m).

[canu44]

i wouldn't say the claws are 80m. if you buy them at night, most are willing to settle for 50m cash (because the lack of competing buyers), or 30m with a 3rd age item.

 

 

 

i bought my claws for 49m. (sold some junk so i ended with 48m).

 

 

 

 

 

i would sell them for 25mil if i had junk or maybe 15 mil to my friend if i had junk,

 

 

 

but i have been offered 91 mil and ags+sgs for my d claws

[Carl]

i wouldn't say the claws are 80m. if you buy them at night, most are willing to settle for 50m cash (because the lack of competing buyers), or 30m with a 3rd age item.

 

 

 

i bought my claws for 49m. (sold some junk so i ended with 48m).

 

 

 

 

 

i would sell them for 25mil if i had junk or maybe 15 mil to my friend if i had junk,

 

 

 

but i have been offered 91 mil and ags+sgs for my d claws

 

 

 

Yes, they're still selling for crazy amounts but wow they're getting common. When I got my pair the day after they were released, NO ONE had them. They were possibly the RAREST thing in the game at that stage. I'd not seen anyone with claws in the two days that followed. Not even anyone selling them in world 2. Now, you have the right offer & you'll get a pair.

 

 

 

I do hope what Bruno said isn't true, that'd just completely ruin them.

 

 

 

We'll just wait and see.

 

 

 

Currently, in world 2 there are 3 people offering 70M cash for them.

[nyyankees588]

One question that I have is are they good on monsters/npcs. This hasn't really been asked and they do pose useful at places like bandos etc if they have a accurate spec on monsters.

[Silver_Corner]

I had the opportunity to test out some claws for a few hours yesterday.

 

 

 

I am 92 att, 94 str, 91 def.

 

 

 

Claws are not all they are worked up to be.

 

I was un-potted to see how they faired when you aren't super potted 20+ levels above your opponent's defense.

 

 

 

Don't get me wrong, they are the best special weapon in the game in terms of ko potential, but like all weapons they rely on getting a good special to be effective. Without a good special, they excel at failing.

 

 

 

(Fighting people around my f2p combat level)

 

On 4 separate occasions, i hit 0-1. one time I hit 0-1 0-1.

 

I almost never 2 hit an opponent, except when they weren't wearing armor. I came close, but did not 2hko the majority of the time. Most of my hits were in the 30-40's range per special. Keep in mind I was in max bonuses (full bandos, barrows gloves, ect..), and also tried in void.

 

 

 

They are a good ko weapon, but not worth the high price in my opinion, unless you are using them for pking.

 

 

 

But keep in mind, to all those above. I suggest you actually TRY out claws before you make points about them being all super powerful. Just as any other ko weapon, their effectiveness is 100% dependant on the special. I wont say a DDS is better, but claws are certainly not the 2hko everyone is assuming they are.

 

 

 

You cant exactly compare claws KO potential to an AGS because a factor of the AGS is its ability to hit 40+ normally without a special. Speed wise if you were to both spec at the same time from the start, claws would likley win, however I have yet to see a non-pj DM of AGS vs. Claws. Claws are deadly, but if the spec misses, AGS excels as it can hit 40+ even if you get bad specials. Claws on their own hit 30's once in awhile, but most of the time, they hit about the same as a dds does.

 

 

 

And yes, I have seen the pk videos. Keep in mind most people in those videos are PJ'ers, meaning their targets are under max hp when attacked. D Claws are good, but not as much as everyone assumes they are.

[Amundogus2]

wonderful jagex always ready to ruin something.

 

 

 

I heard that the spec drain will be increased to 60%. It comes from an highly unreliable source however.

 

 

 

I think that's just a rumor. It couldn't possibly be true... Could it, COULD IT?!

 

 

 

It's certainly possible. Jagex nerfs things like that all the time.

 

When you say "nerf" you make it sound like a negative thing. "Fix" is the right word to use here.

[SirHartlar]

I haven't had a chance to test them out yet, but some people are saying they are amazing and others are saying they aren't as good as they are suggested to be. The price is going to keep rising unless Jagex intervenes it seems, so unless a nerf is on its way I think we might have a good money making method on our hands here. :P

[Carl]

wonderful jagex always ready to ruin something.

 

 

 

I heard that the spec drain will be increased to 60%. It comes from an highly unreliable source however.

 

 

 

I think that's just a rumor. It couldn't possibly be true... Could it, COULD IT?!

 

 

 

It's certainly possible. Jagex nerfs things like that all the time.

 

When you say "nerf" you make it sound like a negative thing. "Fix" is the right word to use here.

 

 

 

Wait, what? You call something going from.. lets say... Rare to common a "fix" and no that item being "nerfed" Or something going from an almighty 2hko (yes, I did see the above post by Brianite I just thought I'd throw it in) weapon to something that never hits? Or something going from a rare drop to something as common as muck? That's not a "fix" that's called the item being "nerfed by Jagex".

 

 

 

This weapon isn't like the other dragon weapons, it's the complete opposite. It's actually VERY GOOD!

 

This can't be purchased in the shops like the other dragon weapons.

[Amundogus2]

[hide=]

wonderful jagex always ready to ruin something.

 

 

 

I heard that the spec drain will be increased to 60%. It comes from an highly unreliable source however.

 

 

 

I think that's just a rumor. It couldn't possibly be true... Could it, COULD IT?!

 

 

 

It's certainly possible. Jagex nerfs things like that all the time.

 

When you say "nerf" you make it sound like a negative thing. "Fix" is the right word to use here.

 

 

 

Wait, what? You call something going from.. lets say... Rare to common a "fix" and no that item being "nerfed" Or something going from an almighty 2hko (yes, I did see the above post by Brianite I just thought I'd throw it in) weapon to something that never hits? Or something going from a rare drop to something as common as muck? That's not a "fix" that's called the item being "nerfed by Jagex".

 

 

 

This weapon isn't like the other dragon weapons it's the complete opposite. It's actually VERY GOOD!

 

This can't be purchased in the shops like the other dragon weapons.

[/hide]

 

It's overpowered. The thing can get anyone down from max hp to 0 before they can eat more than once. It's not like you need skill to pull it off either.

 

EDIT: In case you didn't notice, the dragon weapons are some of the best weapons in the game.

[Carl]

[hide=]

wonderful jagex always ready to ruin something.

 

 

 

I heard that the spec drain will be increased to 60%. It comes from an highly unreliable source however.

 

 

 

I think that's just a rumor. It couldn't possibly be true... Could it, COULD IT?!

 

 

 

It's certainly possible. Jagex nerfs things like that all the time.

 

When you say "nerf" you make it sound like a negative thing. "Fix" is the right word to use here.

 

 

 

Wait, what? You call something going from.. lets say... Rare to common a "fix" and no that item being "nerfed" Or something going from an almighty 2hko (yes, I did see the above post by Brianite I just thought I'd throw it in) weapon to something that never hits? Or something going from a rare drop to something as common as muck? That's not a "fix" that's called the item being "nerfed by Jagex".

 

 

 

This weapon isn't like the other dragon weapons it's the complete opposite. It's actually VERY GOOD!

 

This can't be purchased in the shops like the other dragon weapons.

[/hide]

 

It's overpowered. The thing can get anyone down from max hp to 0 before they can eat more than once. It's not like you need skill to pull it off either.

 

 

 

Yes, it could be classed as overpowered for some. But it's a Great weapon. It's a rare weapon. It's expensive for a reason.

 

 

 

No one wants Jagex to come and "work there magic" on this item.

[bedman]

[hide=]

wonderful jagex always ready to ruin something.

 

 

 

I heard that the spec drain will be increased to 60%. It comes from an highly unreliable source however.

 

 

 

I think that's just a rumor. It couldn't possibly be true... Could it, COULD IT?!

 

 

 

It's certainly possible. Jagex nerfs things like that all the time.

 

When you say "nerf" you make it sound like a negative thing. "Fix" is the right word to use here.

 

 

 

Wait, what? You call something going from.. lets say... Rare to common a "fix" and no that item being "nerfed" Or something going from an almighty 2hko (yes, I did see the above post by Brianite I just thought I'd throw it in) weapon to something that never hits? Or something going from a rare drop to something as common as muck? That's not a "fix" that's called the item being "nerfed by Jagex".

 

 

 

This weapon isn't like the other dragon weapons it's the complete opposite. It's actually VERY GOOD!

 

This can't be purchased in the shops like the other dragon weapons.

[/hide]

 

It's overpowered. The thing can get anyone down from max hp to 0 before they can eat more than once. It's not like you need skill to pull it off either.

 

 

 

Yes, it could be classed as overpowered for some. But it's a Great weapon. It's a rare weapon. It's expensive for a reason.

 

 

 

No one wants Jagex to come and "work there magic" on this item.

 

 

 

That's the worst arguement I've ever seen.

 

You admit it's overpowered and to justifie it you say: "it's a great weapon". Lol? The fact that it's rare and expensive has nothing to do wether it is too overpowered or not. (which I dont think it is, reading the reply's from other people).

 

 

 

And yes, there are people that want Jagex to do their magic. (not me).

[Amundogus2]

[hide=]

wonderful jagex always ready to ruin something.

 

 

 

I heard that the spec drain will be increased to 60%. It comes from an highly unreliable source however.

 

 

 

I think that's just a rumor. It couldn't possibly be true... Could it, COULD IT?!

 

 

 

It's certainly possible. Jagex nerfs things like that all the time.

 

When you say "nerf" you make it sound like a negative thing. "Fix" is the right word to use here.

 

 

 

Wait, what? You call something going from.. lets say... Rare to common a "fix" and no that item being "nerfed" Or something going from an almighty 2hko (yes, I did see the above post by Brianite I just thought I'd throw it in) weapon to something that never hits? Or something going from a rare drop to something as common as muck? That's not a "fix" that's called the item being "nerfed by Jagex".

 

 

 

This weapon isn't like the other dragon weapons it's the complete opposite. It's actually VERY GOOD!

 

This can't be purchased in the shops like the other dragon weapons.

[/hide]

 

It's overpowered. The thing can get anyone down from max hp to 0 before they can eat more than once. It's not like you need skill to pull it off either.

 

 

 

Yes, it could be classed as overpowered for some. But it's a Great weapon. It's a rare weapon. It's expensive for a reason.

 

 

 

No one wants Jagex to come and "work there magic" on this item.

 

*Raises hand.*

[123Yourgone]

 

And yes, there are people that want Jagex to do their magic. (not me).

 

Poor people.

[Carl]

 

*Raises hand.*

 

 

 

Yes, Amundogus2 I'm guessing you don't have a pair?

 

 

 

As I said in the other thread, only people that don't have them will be the ones to complain.

[Amundogus2]

 

*Raises hand.*

 

 

 

Yes, Amundogus2 I'm guessing you don't have a pair?

 

 

 

As I said in the other thread, only people that don't have them will be the ones to complain.

 

No, I don't. But I have logged into a pvp world with full hp and been instantly k0ed by a pair, nothing I could do about it. While the D Clawer just had to spec away. No skill, no fair.

[Carl]

 

*Raises hand.*

 

 

 

Yes, Amundogus2 I'm guessing you don't have a pair?

 

 

 

As I said in the other thread, only people that don't have them will be the ones to complain.

 

No, I don't. But I have logged into a pvp world with full hp and been instantly k0ed by a pair, nothing I could do about it. While the D Clawer just had to spec away. No skill, no fair.

 

 

 

Go get yourself a pair of dragon claws then then we'll see who's doing the complaining. There's always someone that won't be happy with what Jagex introduce into the game. :shame:

[D Jay99]

 

*Raises hand.*

 

 

 

Yes, Amundogus2 I'm guessing you don't have a pair?

 

 

 

As I said in the other thread, only people that don't have them will be the ones to complain.

 

No, I don't. But I have logged into a pvp world with full hp and been instantly k0ed by a pair, nothing I could do about it. While the D Clawer just had to spec away. No skill, no fair.

 

 

 

Go get yourself a pair of dragon claws then then we'll see who's doing the complaining. There's always someone that won't be happy with what Jagex introduce into the game. :shame:

 

Yeah let's release a 98 farming tree that grows godswords. Only the ones without 98 farming will be complaining :D

[Carl]

 

*Raises hand.*

 

 

 

Yes, Amundogus2 I'm guessing you don't have a pair?

 

 

 

As I said in the other thread, only people that don't have them will be the ones to complain.

 

No, I don't. But I have logged into a pvp world with full hp and been instantly k0ed by a pair, nothing I could do about it. While the D Clawer just had to spec away. No skill, no fair.

 

 

 

Go get yourself a pair of dragon claws then then we'll see who's doing the complaining. There's always someone that won't be happy with what Jagex introduce into the game. :shame:

 

Yeah let's release a 98 farming tree that grows godswords. Only the ones without 98 farming will be complaining :D

 

 

 

Lol.

 

 

 

The claws don't require a certain skill level to obtain from another player, he can get them. He shouldn't complain just because someone else has them. If he had them, he certainly wouldn't be complaining (Think I've said this enough times).

[Cheefoo]

If the dragon claws are overpowered, the Armadyl Godsword is overpowered. It's more accurate, and is a better weapons besides the special. I still don't know if dragon claws have a better special attack, but if they're overpowered, AGS is too.

 

 

 

However dragon claws only require 60 attack, but no one cares about attack requirements anymore (or at least they shouldn't). As long as it's over a certain point, it means there won't be pures made just for it. But seriously, I don't think there will be "dragon claw" pures. If there are, with 60 attack only, I'm not worried, they'll be quite innacurate.

 

 

 

That's the big downside to the dragon claws. They're innacurate. However, I think they still hit as much damage if you only hit 3/4 times as 4/4 (I think the bunch the hits together like 0%-100%-50%-50% from what I saw). If you miss twice, the damage is reduced, I think, so its low accuracy is its weakness.

 

 

 

However, we don't exactly know the pattern yet... One way or another, they have low accuracy compared to the AGS, so they won't be overpowered unless you classify AGS the same.

[Carl]

If the dragon claws are overpowered, the Armadyl Godsword is overpowered. It's more accurate, and is a better weapons besides the special. I still don't know if dragon claws have a better special attack, but if they're overpowered, AGS is too.

 

 

 

However dragon claws only require 60 attack, but no one cares about attack requirements anymore (or at least they shouldn't). As long as it's over a certain point, it means there won't be pures made just for it. But seriously, I don't think there will be "dragon claw" pures. If there are, with 60 attack only, I'm not worried, they'll be quite innacurate.

 

 

 

That's the big downside to the dragon claws. They're innacurate. However, I think they still hit as much damage if you only hit 3/4 times as 4/4 (I think the bunch the hits together like 0%-100%-50%-50% from what I saw). If you miss twice, the damage is reduced, I think, so its low accuracy is its weakness.

 

 

 

However, we don't exactly know the pattern yet... One way or another, they have low accuracy compared to the AGS, so they won't be overpowered unless you classify AGS the same.

 

 

 

(it wasn't that bad of an arguement, btw.) People are complaining about this being overpowered because of it's price. If it was 30M+ trade price, no one would complain.

 

 

 

It's because it's cheap.

 

 

 

It's not all that accurate, but for the damage it can do it's a VERY dangerous weapon. I know if I was in Bount Hunter or some other place and had just pk'd something nice, I certainly wouldn't want to bump into someone with claws.

 

 

 

However, I think they still hit as much damage if you only hit 3/4 times as 4/4 (I think the bunch the hits together like 0%-100%-50%-50% from what I saw)

That isn't how it works. If you want me to, I could upload a load of pics I have of the spec. Some of the hits are random, I'll agree with that. But others, follow the pattern that was posted previously. 100%-50%-25%-25% . Most of my pictures follow that pattern, although a small few of the numbers have been rounded off.

[Leoo]

Are the claws actually buyable on the GE? I want to merch them :oops:

[Carl]

Are the claws actually buyable on the GE? I want to merch them :oops:

 

 

 

No, they're Impossible to buy on the Ge. Hence the reason people are offering 60M+ for them.

 

 

 

You can't Merchant something you can't get 8-)