was the log out timer reset to the original time because i know it logged me out after 1:30 (solved a rubiks cube w/ 15s inspection)

 

 

 

do you think it is better or for worse having the original timer (is 5min too much)

Much worse. The only reason I can see for having 5 minutes instead of a minute and a half is AFKing. I can't think of a single activity that routinely takes over a minute 30 to complete, so the 'surfing the web' theory holds no water.

It was reset?!?!?!

 

 

 

Well the best update to RuneScape got ruined, or as RS kids say, "nerfed".

It wasn't reset, I have no clue where you got that from. I have been watching videos on Youtube all day and not been logged out.

Ive been afk for more than 1½ minute too today without getting logged out. Maybe you disconnected without noticing?

 

 

 

Oh and Rubiks cubes rock, my record is 50 seconds so far ;D

(solved a rubiks cube w/ 15s inspection)

 

 

 

Okay first thing: you can make a topic without bragging.

 

 

 

Now on topic: This may sound odd but I think Runescape seconds are wacked up. seriously, they seem to go by a lot faster than real seconds. So when jagex says "5 minutes," they could mean something even as short as "2.5 minutes."

Now on topic: This may sound odd but I think Runescape seconds are wacked up. seriously, they seem to go by a lot faster than real seconds. So when jagex says "5 minutes," they could mean something even as short as "2.5 minutes."

 

 

 

I just timed it because i had to go afk anyway. Clicked once in rs, started a 5 min timer and went to get a drink etc, when i came back there was one min left so i waited a bit more and when the timer had run out, i didnt get logged out. 10 seconds later it happened though. So its 5 real minutes and not 5 jagex minutes.

Yeah, RS's 'seconds' are definitely not the same as the seconds irl.

 

 

 

And tbh, a 5 minute log out timer is pretty much good enough. Any longer and you'd get even more worried about dying from an attacking random while watching YouTube. Any shorter and it'd get annoying after all the log ins and entering the bank PINs.

Yeah, RS's 'seconds' are definitely not the same as the seconds irl.

 

 

 

And tbh, a 5 minute log out timer is pretty much good enough. Any longer and you'd get even more worried about dying from an attacking random while watching YouTube. Any shorter and it'd get annoying after all the log ins and entering the bank PINs.

 

 

 

You cant do much about RS seconds. The game is java based, so the variable can only be changed once per process. If I recall the process speed on one of my programs is about 560ms, so the timer would be doubled, and theoretically be 5 minutes. There is also the matter of sending the idle packet, the time it takes the client to process your idle to send the packet, and then the sending of the kill command, receiving the confirmation, and then logging you out. Its BOUND to be more than 5 minutes...just stop complaining.

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Yeah, RS's 'seconds' are definitely not the same as the seconds irl.

 

 

 

And tbh, a 5 minute log out timer is pretty much good enough. Any longer and you'd get even more worried about dying from an attacking random while watching YouTube. Any shorter and it'd get annoying after all the log ins and entering the bank PINs.

 

 

 

You cant do much about RS seconds. The game is java based, so the variable can only be changed once per process. If I recall the process speed on one of my programs is about 560ms, so the timer would be doubled, and theoretically be 5 minutes. There is also the matter of sending the idle packet, the time it takes the client to process your idle to send the packet, and then the sending of the kill command, receiving the confirmation, and then logging you out. Its BOUND to be more than 5 minutes...just stop complaining.

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(I hope that last part wasn't directed at me. :? )

phew... I just got used to the 5 minutes...

 

 

 

 

 

been clicking back into rs every 5 seconds..

I'd much prefer it if we could manually change it ourselves.

 

 

 

Meaning, if you wanted to be auto logged after 1 minute and 30 seconds, you could set it to do so.

 

And, if you watned the 5 minutes you just left it.

 

 

 

I know, in some cases I prefer the 1 minute and 30 seconds timer. Sometimes when I lose connection (I lose connection every few seconds past 6pm) I think it'll log me off so I switch to tif or something, but then a few minutes later I click back and realise I'm still in-game. What if a random got me? :(

I can't think of a single activity that routinely takes over a minute 30 to complete, so the 'surfing the web' theory holds no water.

 

Mining rune before the timer was reset sometimes took so long that I got logged out.

 

Yesterday it didn't seem like it had changed back.

Yeah, RS's 'seconds' are definitely not the same as the seconds irl.

 

That's wrong. The timer is very trustworthy. For example, my bank pin was reset after axactly 3 days on the exact minute (cause I got hacked I had to reset my pin). Same goes with lending. Never felt like the timer does the wrong thing.

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Yeah, RS's 'seconds' are definitely not the same as the seconds irl.

 

 

 

And tbh, a 5 minute log out timer is pretty much good enough. Any longer and you'd get even more worried about dying from an attacking random while watching YouTube. Any shorter and it'd get annoying after all the log ins and entering the bank PINs.

 

 

 

You cant do much about RS seconds. The game is java based, so the variable can only be changed once per process. If I recall the process speed on one of my programs is about 560ms, so the timer would be doubled, and theoretically be 5 minutes. There is also the matter of sending the idle packet, the time it takes the client to process your idle to send the packet, and then the sending of the kill command, receiving the confirmation, and then logging you out. Its BOUND to be more than 5 minutes...just stop complaining.

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(I hope that last part wasn't directed at me. :? )

 

 

 

It was directed at all the people above complaining about how "rs seconds go a tiny bit faster than normal seconds"

 

In the end, what does it matter? Its all relative anyway? Everything in the game runs on RS seconds; combat, skills, etc. So if the game time is off in real life, the action time is too, but its counter-balanced, if you get what Im saying.

Yeah, RS's 'seconds' are definitely not the same as the seconds irl.

 

That's wrong. The timer is very trustworthy. For example, my bank pin was reset after axactly 3 days on the exact minute (cause I got hacked I had to reset my pin). Same goes with lending. Never felt like the timer does the wrong thing.

 

 

 

They might be the "fast seconds" you see in the party room, and there's 100 quick seconds to every minute. Just for the logout timer. :-k

Much worse. The only reason I can see for having 5 minutes instead of a minute and a half is AFKing. I can't think of a single activity that routinely takes over a minute 30 to complete, so the 'surfing the web' theory holds no water.

 

 

 

Fishing can easily take over a minute 30 :P

I'd much prefer it if we could manually change it ourselves.

 

 

 

Meaning, if you wanted to be auto logged after 1 minute and 30 seconds, you could set it to do so.

 

And, if you watned the 5 minutes you just left it.

 

 

 

I know, in some cases I prefer the 1 minute and 30 seconds timer. Sometimes when I lose connection (I lose connection every few seconds past 6pm) I think it'll log me off so I switch to tif or something, but then a few minutes later I click back and realise I'm still in-game. What if a random got me? :(

 

I believe they still have the 60 second (or 90, cant remember) log out timer due to connection loss.

Much worse. The only reason I can see for having 5 minutes instead of a minute and a half is AFKing. I can't think of a single activity that routinely takes over a minute 30 to complete, so the 'surfing the web' theory holds no water.

 

 

 

I think the new timer is great when you have to use the bathroom, get a drink or snack, post on the forum, or when my parents call me for something. I hated putting my password and PIN several times a day.

i prefer having 5 mins :shock:

5 minutes is great... i can work on homework and cut magics now at the same time. Much goodness for my grades :thumbsup:

Much worse. The only reason I can see for having 5 minutes instead of a minute and a half is AFKing. I can't think of a single activity that routinely takes over a minute 30 to complete, so the 'surfing the web' theory holds no water.

 

 

 

I think the new timer is great when you have to use the bathroom, get a drink or snack, post on the forum, or when my parents call me for something. I hated putting my password and PIN several times a day.

 

Posting on the forum shouldn't take 5 minutes. All the other examples are against the rules, which is why Jagex had it in the first place :|

Much worse. The only reason I can see for having 5 minutes instead of a minute and a half is AFKing. I can't think of a single activity that routinely takes over a minute 30 to complete, so the 'surfing the web' theory holds no water.

 

 

 

I think the new timer is great when you have to use the bathroom, get a drink or snack, post on the forum, or when my parents call me for something. I hated putting my password and PIN several times a day.

 

Posting on the forum shouldn't take 5 minutes. All the other examples are against the rules, which is why Jagex had it in the first place :|

 

http://www.runescape.com/kbase/view.ws? ... of_conduct

 

Mind showing me which rule afk fishing/wcing falls under?

 

 

 

As to the REASON it is being changed. It is because it is a (very) common request that it be made a bit longer, which we are responding to. The most common example of where this helps is if you are playing the game and doing something else at the same time. For example say you have your character cutting down a tree, and are also reading the RuneScape forums (keeping a careful eye on your other window to watch for random events, but not interacting with it), at the moment after 90 seconds of forum reading the other window will suddenly logout, which is annoying. So it's upped to 5 minutes now.

 

 

 

 

 

I agree that having the timer increased to 5 minutes is very nice, for for all reasons already mentioned. :)

Any longer than 5 minutes, and I would have been against the update, but 5 minutes seems just right. It's no longer something that is constantly in the back of your head while doing something else at the same time as being logged in to RS, whatever it is, but it is still a functional logout timer.

I think it was mostly included to fight a specific macro. It's break handler just stops the script and let Runescape log itself out after 90 seconds. (Why they didn't make it to log out I have no idea) The break handler also kill the anti random scripts so if the bot waits around for 5 minutes with no anti randoms each time it takes a break it's going to be pretty vulnerable to bans. Since people have to fix it themselves (nobody is working on it) it's going to catch a lot of those who don't know how to do it.

 

 

 

*off topic: I'm back from the US*