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I'm gonna miss school tomorrow because I still feel sick.

 

i feel pretty sick too, probably will go to school though. What are your symptoms?

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I'm gonna miss school tomorrow because I still feel sick.

 

Quickly! Cough on me so I don't have to go to TAKS testing!

 

 

 

Hey! TAKS isn't bad at all... although I hope all the schools blow up :lol:

 

For me it is. The freshman don't even have testing until Thursday so for the Monday and Tuesdays we'll be reviewing for our tests. It's going to suck!

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I'm gonna miss school tomorrow because I still feel sick.

 

i feel pretty sick too, probably will go to school though. What are your symptoms?

 

 

 

I don't have any aching or anything, but I have a sore throat (very hard to talk), runny nose, congestion, and it's a little hard to sleep. I've been waking up a little earlier than normal and crashing later in the day because of losing sleep.

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I dont know, but I think its just infected animals got eaten and they got the flu?

 

 

 

Im scared, Im getting sick(no im not being paranoid), and it better not be IT.

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I got really worried this morning when I got up and had to rush to the bathroom so I could vomit in the sink, was really worried as last night I heard that it was in NZ, which means it could be here. After I went back to bed and woke up again I was feeling perfectly fine, so I'm no longer worried, but it gave me a scare.

 

 

 

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Ah, check my first post. I'll post the link again.

 

"The flu shot given last fall does not work against this. On the other hand, eating pork is fine."

 

 

 

This specific strain can be spread human-to-human, which is rather worrisome. If you're simply in the presence of someone who has it, I'm pretty sure you're safe, unless they cough/sneeze, and the germs somehow end up on you, and then you transfer it into your body.

 

Just about every case so far is either in Mexico, or is someone who's been to Mexico recently. Maybe I should avoid people who've been to Mexico.

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As i've said before, 1/3rd of my school was sick with similar symptoms two weeks ago, around the time this started.

 

 

 

Just looked at the cdc website.

 

"fever, cough, sore throat, body aches, headache, chills and fatigue"

 

I had all of those

 

A sentence later on the website:

 

"In the past, severe illness (pneumonia and respiratory failure) have been reported with swine flu infection in people."

 

I went to the doctor a few days ago and was diagnosed with pneumonia.

 

Well, [bleep].

 

I should be ok though, my cough is fading slowly, and my fever is only 99.5ish now, down from 104.2 at it's peak.

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I should be ok though, my cough is fading slowly, and my fever is only 99.5ish now, down from 104.2 at it's peak.

 

 

 

Damn. I think I only ever had that high of a fever when I had appendicitis... Did you have to go to the ER for that or something?

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I should be ok though, my cough is fading slowly, and my fever is only 99.5ish now, down from 104.2 at it's peak.

 

 

 

Damn. I think I only ever had that high of a fever when I had appendicitis... Did you have to go to the ER for that or something?

 

It was only like that for about an hour, and coincidentally, that hour was when I was already at my doctor trying to figure out what I had.

 

So they gave me some meds, and it went down. This has definitely been the sickest I have ever been.

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Mage, it's not in NZ yet. There are some doctors at the airport waiting to greet some school kids who had a trip in Mexico who are likely to have the swine flu (didn't confirm they have it)

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HOLY CRAP I LIVE IN MEXICO NOW IM STARTING TO GET SCARED.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People here are getting paranoid and schools are going to start giving masks. 3 cases in my state. 2 on my city, 1 about half a kilometer from where i live. :( :-#

 

 

 

 

 

News are starting to get paranoid too, saying that school may be canceled for a few weeks, (it's already 2 weeks on Mexico D.F)

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Ah, check my first post. I'll post the link again.

 

"The flu shot given last fall does not work against this. On the other hand, eating pork is fine."

 

 

 

This specific strain can be spread human-to-human, which is rather worrisome. If you're simply in the presence of someone who has it, I'm pretty sure you're safe, unless they cough/sneeze, and the germs somehow end up on you, and then you transfer it into your body.

 

Just about every case so far is either in Mexico, or is someone who's been to Mexico recently. Maybe I should avoid people who've been to Mexico.

 

Really Professional.

 

 

 

Why can't anything like this happen in Saskatchewan? I hate school...

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Only today after my school (Singapore) announced this epidemic did I realize the seriousness of this virus.

 

 

 

Holy [bleep] I sure hope that S'pore dosen't get affected. I would hate Sars #2.

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It's not as big of a deal as the media is making it out to be, but this is just rich:

 

 

 

When House Appropriations Committee chairman David Obey, the Wisconsin Democrat who has long championed investment in pandemic preparation, included roughly $900 million for that purpose in this year's emergency stimulus bill, he was ridiculed by conservative operatives and congressional Republicans.

 

 

 

Obey and other advocates for the spending argued, correctly, that a pandemic hitting in the midst of an economic downturn could turn a recession into something far worse -- with workers ordered to remain in their homes, workplaces shuttered to avoid the spread of disease, transportation systems grinding to a halt and demand for emergency services and public health interventions skyrocketing. Indeed, they suggested, pandemic preparation was essential to any responsible plan for renewing the U.S. economy.

 

 

 

Now, as the World Health Organization says a deadly swine flu outbreak that apparently began in Mexico but has spread to the United States has the potential to develop into a pandemic, Obey's attempt to secure the money seems eerily prescient.

 

 

 

And his partisan attacks on his efforts seem not just creepy, but dangerous.

 

The current swine flu outbreak is not a pandemic, and there is reason to hope that it can be contained.

 

 

 

But it has already killed more than 80 people in a neighboring country and sickened dozens of Americans -- causing the closing of schools and other public facilities in U.S. cities.

 

 

 

On Sunday, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano announced that a national "public health emergency" had been declatred. (Notably, the second question at the White House press conference on the emergency had to do with the potential impact on the economic recovery.)

 

 

 

Dr. Anne Schuchat, the U.S Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Interim Deputy Director for Science and Public Health Program, explained to reporters on Saturday that, because the cases that have been discovered so far are so widely spread (in California, Kansas, New York, Ohio and Texas), the outbreak is already "beyond containment."

 

 

 

That's unsettling.

 

 

 

To many Americans, genuinely scary.

 

 

 

Not faked-up, politically-self serving scary, like the arguments former White House political czar Karl Rove advanced in February to frame opposition to the stimulus package Obey crafted in the House.

 

 

 

Rove dismissed Obey's proposals as "disturbing" and "laden with new spending programs." He said the congressman was peddling a plan based on "deeply flawed assumptions."

 

 

 

Like what?

 

 

 

Rove specifically complained that Obey's proposal included "$462 million for the Centers for Disease Control, and $900 million for pandemic flu preparations."

 

 

 

This was wrong, the political operative charged, because the health care sector added jobs in 2008.

 

 

 

As bizarre as that criticism may sound -- especially now -- Rove's argument was picked up by House and Senate Republicans, who made it an essential message in their attacks on the legislation. Even as Rove and his compatriots argued that a stimulus bill should include initiatives designed to shore-up and maintain any recovery, they consistently, and loudly, objected to spending money to address the potentially devastating economic impact of a major public health emergency.

 

 

 

The attack on pandemic preparation became so central to the GOP strategies that AP reported in February: "Republicans, meanwhile, plan to push for broader and deeper tax cuts, to trim major spending provisions that support Democrats' longer-term policy goals, and to try to knock out what they consider questionable spending items, such as $870 million to combat the flu and $400 million to slow the spread of HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases."

 

 

 

Famously, Maine Senator Susan Collins, the supposedly moderate Republican who demanded cuts in health care spending in exchange for her support of a watered-down version of the stimulus, fumed about the pandemic funding: "Does it belong in this bill? Should we have $870 million in this bill No, we should not."

 

 

 

Even now, Collins continues to use her official website to highlight the fact that she led the fight to strip the pandemic preparedness money out of the Senate's version of the stimulus measure.

 

 

 

The Republicans essentially succeeded. The Senate version of the stimulus plan included no money whatsoever for pandemic preparedness. In the conference committee that reconciled the House and Senate plans, Obey and his allies succeeded in securing $50 million for improving information systems at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

 

 

 

But state and local governments, and the emergency services that would necessarily be on the frontlines in any effort to contain a pandemic, got nothing.

 

 

 

Did Rove, Collins and their compatriots want a pandemic? Of course not.

 

 

 

They were just playing politics, in the exceptionally narrow and irresponsible manner that characterized the Republican response to the stimulus debate and that, because of Democratic compromises in the Senate, dumbed down the plan President Obama ultimately signed.

 

 

 

No serious player in Washington has been unaware of the fears with regard to a flu pandemic. They have been well-publicized and well-discussed. Even Collins admitted as she objected to the House allocation for preparedness: "I think that everybody in the room is concerned about a pandemic flu."

 

 

 

And it is important to point out that no serious player in Washington could have been unaware of the threat that a pandemic -- or even the fear of one -- would pose to economic renewal. Every discussion about a pandemic begins with the public health component but moves quickly to an acknowledgement that an outbreak, and the ensuing quarantines, would bring economic activity to a virtual standstill.

 

 

 

So Rove, Collins and those who echoed their know-nothing appeals understood that they were wrong.

 

 

 

But they bet that they would be able to score their political points without any consequences.

 

 

 

Now that fears of a pandemic have been raised, however, it is appropriate to ask whether individuals who are so manifestly irresponsible and partisan should be taken seriously.

 

 

 

This is an especially important concern with regard to Collins, who portrays herself as a moderate who tries to make things work in Washington.

 

 

 

Senate Democratic leaders bowed to Collins in the process of crafting their chamber's version of the stimulus. In doing so, they eliminated more than 80 percent of the modest amount of money that had been allocated for pandemic preparedness -- and all of the money that would have helped emergency services.

 

 

 

Collins played politics with public health, and the economic recovery. That makes her about as bad a player as you will find in a town full of bad players.

 

But Senate Democrats bent to her demands. That makes them, at the very least, complicit in the weakening of what needed to be a muscular plan.

 

 

 

The bottom line is that there were no heroes in either party on the Senate side of the ugly process that ridiculed and then eliminated pandemic preparedness funding.

 

 

 

There is, however, a hero on the House side. Throughout the process, David Obey battled to get Congress to recognize that a pandemic would threaten not just public health but a fragile economic recovery.

 

 

 

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The sad thing is, people are now dying because of this, and Europe has now advised against travel to the US and Mexico.

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HOLY CRAP I LIVE IN MEXICO NOW IM STARTING TO GET SCARED.

 

You said that like 5 pages back.

 

 

 

This may be an excuse enough not to go to school, but hey, I for one enjoy school.

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HOLY CRAP I LIVE IN MEXICO NOW IM STARTING TO GET SCARED.

 

You said that like 5 pages back.

 

 

 

This may be an excuse enough not to go to school, but hey, I for one enjoy school.

 

 

 

 

 

Yea, but i was not really worried 5 pages back. Now i am worried because it's confirmed there are people having it in my city.

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Now that the threat of sickness is real for everyone on the planet...

 

 

 

I wonder how those proponents of 'population-cleansing' disease feel about the situation.

 

 

 

I am not insulting them--I just want to know how minds change when the theoretical jumps into the real.

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Now that the threat of sickness is real for everyone on the planet...

 

 

 

I wonder how those proponents of 'population-cleansing' disease feel about the situation.

 

 

 

I am not insulting them--I just want to know how minds change when the theoretical jumps into the real.

 

Hadn't thought of it till now, I doubt it will get big enough though, and it probably won't affect those we want it to.

 

 

 

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